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« on: November 20, 2017, 02:35:53 PM »
« edited: November 20, 2017, 02:54:02 PM by Doug Jones »

All I know is the Trump coalition is going to need to expand, otherwise it is going to have a lot of trouble winning in the future. Non college graduate white people is a pretty bad coalition for the House / President (not as bad for the Senate). Hillary would have only won the popular vote by 1.3% in 2012 if the demographics voted the same way they did in 2016. Literally every state is becoming better for the democrats demographically besides South Carolina (and Washington DC). Idaho and New Hampshire are barely changing, though.

Even the rust belt states are becoming more demographically friendly towards Democrats, and especially the sun belt is rapidly becoming more demographically friendly.

Also you can easily get 12-15% of african americans by just not being assholes to them. Most republicans in 2016 got around that amount of AA's, just Trump underperformed them.
The Trump coalition still included the majority of white college graduates, and their objections to Trump were more related to his personality than his policies, meaning that a Trump republican without scandals like Access Hollywood could outperform him.

Trump also did better with black voters than McCain and Romney. Admittedly, he wasn't against Obama, but his results were perfectly normal for a republican. Black don't vote democrat "because republicans are assholes to them." They vote democrat because they overwhelmingly support democrat big government policies. The black vote didn't flip due to Nixon's southern strategy. It flipped decades earlier due to FDR's New Deal programs. Most blacks support welfare, want more gun control, do not consider hate speech free speech, want to raise taxes on the rich,etc. The main area where the black community and democrats are divided is on social issues that weren't the focus of the 2016 election.
I'll let you decide based on this quotation what you think of him.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 02:36:39 PM »

Whew......at first I thought this about me.  Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 02:38:57 PM »

Whew......at first I thought this about me.  Tongue

Moi aussi. I was pondering what to say about you. I don't know this dude from adam. Sad
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 02:39:52 PM »

Whew......at first I thought this about me.  Tongue

Moi aussi. I was pondering what to say about you. I don't know this dude from adam. Sad

Me either but he should be banned.  I'm the only PA Deplorable here.  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 02:43:26 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 02:46:01 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 02:46:54 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 02:52:17 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
Eh, I've been called worse  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 03:28:06 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 03:31:29 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 03:32:25 PM »

And here I thought I was a moderate hero Sad
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2017, 03:46:39 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
Eh, I've been called worse  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But not by as many people in one day.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2017, 03:53:13 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
Eh, I've been called worse  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But not by as many people in one day.
I don't see why I'm disgusting honestly. the only remotely controversial comment I've ever made on here was the one saying I think viewing child porn should be legal, and I've basically walked that back after input from others.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2017, 04:36:28 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
Eh, I've been called worse  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But not by as many people in one day.
I don't see why I'm disgusting honestly. the only remotely controversial comment I've ever made on here was the one saying I think viewing child porn should be legal, and I've basically walked that back after input from others.
You made your atlas identity creepy demeaning porny ick and you did it in response to accusations that you like child porn.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2017, 04:43:29 PM »

Anyone who proudly calls themselves "Deplorable" = mega HP

After reading your posts for a few days it's clear you're a deplorable human.
Eh, I've been called worse  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But not by as many people in one day.
I don't see why I'm disgusting honestly. the only remotely controversial comment I've ever made on here was the one saying I think viewing child porn should be legal, and I've basically walked that back after input from others.

You could commence your rehab by getting rid of that awful pic in your signature.
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2017, 04:44:35 PM »

Was that accusation made? If it was, that doesn't necessarily seem fair. I couldn't disagree more with what Tex said, but simply saying something should be allowed doesn't mean they like it. I doubt anyone would think that if it was some other boring issue.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2017, 04:48:12 PM »

Was that accusation made? If it was, that doesn't necessarily seem fair. I couldn't disagree more with what Tex said, but simply saying something should be allowed doesn't mean they like it. I doubt anyone would think that if it was some other boring issue.
Absolutely this. I am 100% against any sexual exploitation of anyone, but especially children. And I have never, and would never, view sexualized or pornographic images of anyone under the age of 18.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2017, 05:33:48 PM »

Getting back to the title of the thread, here's another gem I found from PA Deplorable that is open for interpretation:
The financial crisis killed them. There just aren't that many social conservatives with liberal (in the economic sense) views any more in America. That's the reason why Romney lost handily in 2012, and why so much of the Republican base backed Trump over the more 'traditional' candidates in 2016.
This is correct. Capitalism is great, but some regulations are needed and the common man and woman on both sides of the aisle wants a government that puts their interests before those of billionaires and their multinational corporations. The media has shifted the country to the left socially to the extent that gay marriage, just a decade ago a winning issue for the GOP) is a done deal with very few seriously still trying to reverse it. Reagan's coalition didn't really believe in all the "true conservative" principals of Goldwater anyway and neither do the modern ones. Goldwater voted down the Civil Rights Act as an unconstitutional federal overreach. Guaranteed nobody important in the GOP would stand on principle enough to agree with him there (meaning you yourself are liberal by the standards of the past). The conservative movement has played a losing game for the last 30 years and failed to conserve anything. You already lost the culture war and if you don't do something to slow down demographics the whole country will vote like California.
Important part is bolded.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2017, 05:38:35 PM »

It's not open for interpretation. He's quite clear about his views. I actually kind of respect him for not hiding behind "tax reform" or "economic freedom" to conceal his views on race like "movement conservatives" do.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2017, 06:37:14 PM »

Baby krazen?
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2017, 07:35:42 PM »

Pretty much. Does a good job of hiding his misdeeds though.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2017, 09:00:06 PM »

The name kind of says it all, right?
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2017, 05:05:40 PM »

I love him/her as Jesus would commandeth
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2017, 06:25:03 PM »

All I know is the Trump coalition is going to need to expand, otherwise it is going to have a lot of trouble winning in the future. Non college graduate white people is a pretty bad coalition for the House / President (not as bad for the Senate). Hillary would have only won the popular vote by 1.3% in 2012 if the demographics voted the same way they did in 2016. Literally every state is becoming better for the democrats demographically besides South Carolina (and Washington DC). Idaho and New Hampshire are barely changing, though.

Even the rust belt states are becoming more demographically friendly towards Democrats, and especially the sun belt is rapidly becoming more demographically friendly.

Also you can easily get 12-15% of african americans by just not being assholes to them. Most republicans in 2016 got around that amount of AA's, just Trump underperformed them.
The Trump coalition still included the majority of white college graduates, and their objections to Trump were more related to his personality than his policies, meaning that a Trump republican without scandals like Access Hollywood could outperform him.

Trump also did better with black voters than McCain and Romney. Admittedly, he wasn't against Obama, but his results were perfectly normal for a republican. Black don't vote democrat "because republicans are assholes to them." They vote democrat because they overwhelmingly support democrat big government policies. The black vote didn't flip due to Nixon's southern strategy. It flipped decades earlier due to FDR's New Deal programs. Most blacks support welfare, want more gun control, do not consider hate speech free speech, want to raise taxes on the rich,etc. The main area where the black community and democrats are divided is on social issues that weren't the focus of the 2016 election.
I'll let you decide based on this quotation what you think of him.

Aside from the polemic terminology it is basically correct.
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2017, 12:27:32 AM »

The name kind of says it all, right?
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