VA-GOV 2017: It's a Wave (GE: Nov 7th - Thread #2)

[Holmes]

The nice part is that even going into 2019, there should still be enough competitive districts for Democrats to make some gains. And if they can convince a Republican senator to go turncoat, they can completely redraw the HoD maps before 2019 - assuming the HoD is at least 50-50 in the end.

Democrats went to the Supreme Court to fight gerrymandering, right? So redrawing the map before 2019 would be pretty hypocritical.

[Gustaf]

Berniecrat Lee Carter defeated the Virginia House Republican Whip.

Oh right, Berniecrats can't win in Virginia.

hahahahahahahahahaha

[MAINEiac4434]

Berniecrat Lee Carter defeated the Virginia House Republican Whip.

Oh right, Berniecrats can't win in Virginia.

Eternally bitter, lmao

Bernie Sanders could win all 50 states by 20 points and Jfern would complain that Hillary and the DNC prevented him from winning by 25.

[Cactus Jack]

Berniecrat Lee Carter defeated the Virginia House Republican Whip.

Oh right, Berniecrats can't win in Virginia.

F**k off.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Well, get used to it Republicans.  This is what you get when you make a deal with the devil.

What?! Republicans have won nearly every other special election since Trump took office.

They have held open seats, but haven't made any gains.

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

[GeorgiaModerate]

 Can we not relitigate Bernie vs Hillary in this thread?  Please???

[136or142]

Well, get used to it Republicans.  This is what you get when you make a deal with the devil.

What?! Republicans have won nearly every other special election since Trump took office.

They have held open seats, but haven't made any gains.

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

The New Jersey Governor is.

[Crumpets]

Are the next set of district lines going to be enacted before the next gubernatorial election in 2021, or will the next governor get to oversee that?

[Virginiá]

Democrats went to the Supreme Court to fight gerrymandering, right? So redrawing the map before 2019 would be pretty hypocritical.

I was just thinking a redraw in general. The current HoD map is a gerrymander for Republicans, which makes tonight's results so much more impressive. It fell apart.

Democrats would really just have to draw a neutral map to take it in 2019.

[Yank2133]

Well, get used to it Republicans.  This is what you get when you make a deal with the devil.

What?! Republicans have won nearly every other special election since Trump took office.

They have held open seats, but haven't made any gains.

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

They might win the house of delegates, which they haven't done in 20 years.

Republicans can try to spin this, but the down the ballot numbers here are awful.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I'm drinking the sweet, sweet beer wine of victory tonight. It's a wave, friends.

Cheers, buddy!

[Alabama_Indy10]

Well, get used to it Republicans.  This is what you get when you make a deal with the devil.

What?! Republicans have won nearly every other special election since Trump took office.

They have held open seats, but haven't made any gains.

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

The New Jersey Governor is.

Republicans were going to lose New Jersey regardless.

[DrScholl]

Well, get used to it Republicans.  This is what you get when you make a deal with the devil.

What?! Republicans have won nearly every other special election since Trump took office.

They have held open seats, but haven't made any gains.

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

No, but it a seat that Republicans failed to gain and they are stuck at zero gains for seats of any sort this year.

[Hydera]

Berniecrat Lee Carter defeated the Virginia House Republican Whip.

Oh right, Berniecrats can't win in Virginia.

F**k off.

[Suburbia]

No. He'll run for governor in 2021 or Senate again, or head the RNC again.

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JFern, no.

Berniecrats and Centrists won side by side, why can't you shut up and enjoy a victory?

[Virginiá]

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

They might win the house of delegates, which they haven't done in 20 years.

Republicans can try to spin this, but the down the ballot numbers here are awful.

There is really no way to spin this result. This is a disaster for Republicans. This many incumbent lawmakers losing in a single election, this many seats, it just doesn't happen. At least not in Virginia. I stated above that the last time this many seats flipped at once was 1895. Republicans can't spin this.

Are the next set of district lines going to be enacted before the next gubernatorial election in 2021, or will the next governor get to oversee that?

It depends if Democrats can work some magic and get a Republican or two to go against their party. But if not, Democrats will either need to win the state Senate in 2019, and/or win the gubernatorial race in 2021, or hold the HoD.

Either way it's looking good that next redistricting will see at least neutral maps across the board.

JFern, no.

Berniecrats and Centrists won side by side, why can't you shut up and enjoy a victory?

It's amazing how negative this guy is. It's like all he can see in life.

[136or142]

JFern, no.

Berniecrats and Centrists won side by side, why can't you shut up and enjoy a victory?

Have a Constitutional convention, bring in a Parliament with proportional representation, and you can split apart.

[Shadows]

JFern, no.

Berniecrats and Centrists won side by side, why can't you shut up and enjoy a victory?

3 out of 4 Our-Revolution candidates won in NJ, one beat the GOP Whip. Our-Revolution candidates went 7 for 7 in Somerville, Mass. Krasner is the new DA, multiple DSA folks won.

And Northan & Murphy both won comfortably. Good night for Democrats, for centrists & progressives. Bad night for Trump & conservatives. Nothing to be an unhappy about for anyone.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Where is Greedo The Hunter?

And Dfwlibertylover

Crying, hopefully.

nah darlings, don't care that much about a State I don't live in, would care more if say a house or senate race flipped since those actually impact my life (or a major texas race)

[Gustaf]

Well, get used to it Republicans.  This is what you get when you make a deal with the devil.

What?! Republicans have won nearly every other special election since Trump took office.

They have held open seats, but haven't made any gains.

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

The New Jersey Governor is.

Republicans were going to lose New Jersey regardless.

No, no, no. You're trying to have it both ways. How are we counting? Is it "flipping seats" or is it "winning races you're not favoured to win". You can't flip between metrics from case to case unless you're an idiot hack.

[Dr. Arch]

Virginia House of Delegates, D+15! One more to flip and the Democrat is leading. Absentee ballots still outstanding, and they are more Democrat than the election day vote.

Link: https://www.vpap.org/electionresults/house/

[Holmes]

Turns out the winning coalition for Democrats is still moderates and progressives and you guys better learn to work together come 2019.

At least nothing can be as horrible as how the Republican caucus has governed, but still.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Virginia is not a gain for the D's.

They might win the house of delegates, which they haven't done in 20 years.

Republicans can try to spin this, but the down the ballot numbers here are awful.

There is really no way to spin this result. This is a disaster for Republicans. This many incumbent lawmakers losing in a single election, this many seats, it just doesn't happen. At least not in Virginia. I stated above that the last time this many seats flipped at once was 1895. Republicans can't spin this.

Are the next set of district lines going to be enacted before the next gubernatorial election in 2021, or will the next governor get to oversee that?

It depends if Democrats can work some magic and get a Republican or two to go against their party. But if not, Democrats will either need to win the state Senate in 2019, and/or win the gubernatorial race in 2021, or hold the HoD.

Either way it's looking good that next redistricting will see at least neutral maps across the board.

JFern, no.

Berniecrats and Centrists won side by side, why can't you shut up and enjoy a victory?

It's amazing how negative this guy is. It's like all he can see in life.

I don't believe I'm trying to spin anything? All I said was (in reference to a previous post) that Republicans have won nearly all the previous special elections since Trump took office and that the Virginia governorship is not a gain for the Democrats.

[Gustaf]

JFern, no.

Berniecrats and Centrists won side by side, why can't you shut up and enjoy a victory?

3 out of 4 Our-Revolution candidates won in NJ, one beat the GOP Whip. Our-Revolution candidates went 7 for 7 in Somerville, Mass. Krasner is the new DA, multiple DSA folks won.

And Northan & Murphy both won comfortably. Good night for Democrats, for centrists & progressives. Bad night for Trump & conservatives. Nothing to be an unhappy about for anyone.

It's pretty surprising to me that there can't be a deal, formal or not, where Berniecrats get to run in safe seats and in return back moderates in swing seats.