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« on: November 04, 2017, 09:11:08 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2017, 07:54:56 PM »

It's sort of mixed.  In the developed world, LGBT community has made great strides and we've seen a number of fairly socially conservative countries like Ireland, US, and Malta legalize gay marriage and the public was largely supportive of it.  But in the developing world quite a different story as many seem to be going in the opposite direction, particularly in Africa, Middle East, and former USSR.  Latin America is the one notable exception where LGBT rights are dramatically improving despite being fairly religious and developing countries.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 08:21:13 PM »

LGBT overreach has caused that.

They gained the sympath of lots of people then started pushing for marrying on churches, trans bathrooms, LGBT rights will only last in places where they were achieved by legislation, and that's their fault.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 08:27:49 PM »

LGBT overreach has caused that.

They gained the sympath of lots of people then started pushing for marrying on churches, trans bathrooms, LGBT rights will only last in places where they were achieved by legislation, and that's their fault.

You think gay people are being arrested in Tajikistan because trans people in America are allowed to use the girls toilets?
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 08:30:28 PM »

It's sort of mixed.  In the developed world, LGBT community has made great strides and we've seen a number of fairly socially conservative countries like Ireland, US, and Malta legalize gay marriage and the public was largely supportive of it.  But in the developing world quite a different story as many seem to be going in the opposite direction, particularly in Africa, Middle East, and former USSR.  Latin America is the one notable exception where LGBT rights are dramatically improving despite being fairly religious and developing countries.
Lol latin america is repudiating the LGBT pushing for teaching "gender ideology" at schools and the left has been wiped out from the continent.

Peru fired their education minister after she tried to push a curriculum saying that gender roles are social constructs, Colombia fired her lesbian minister after she produced a manual for schools regarding "discrimination" for sexual orientation, people stormed the steets against EPN's proposal of legalizing gay marriage in Mexico and the biggest opponent of LGBT overreach and gender ideology in Brazil ranks second in the presidential polls (actually first since the guy ahead of him will be indicted).

Latin America is fed up with LGBT overreach in almost the same levels of Eastern Europe.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2017, 08:34:00 PM »

LGBT overreach has caused that.

They gained the sympath of lots of people then started pushing for marrying on churches, trans bathrooms, LGBT rights will only last in places where they were achieved by legislation, and that's their fault.

You think gay people are being arrested in Tajikistan because trans people in America are allowed to use the girls toilets?
These places see the west as weak for their push of such agendas happening at blazing speed down here, which has sparked a stronger opposition in places like Russia, Eastern Europe and Latin America, places where nobody believes the ISIS solution is the go-to solution for LGBT people but they see a threat against the normal gender roles that take place at their societies.

A white liberal from Raleigh saying people with a penis can use the girls bathroom is something that will leave them baffled.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2017, 09:41:05 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2017, 09:43:55 PM by MB »

It's sort of mixed.  In the developed world, LGBT community has made great strides and we've seen a number of fairly socially conservative countries like Ireland, US, and Malta legalize gay marriage and the public was largely supportive of it.  But in the developing world quite a different story as many seem to be going in the opposite direction, particularly in Africa, Middle East, and former USSR.  Latin America is the one notable exception where LGBT rights are dramatically improving despite being fairly religious and developing countries.
Lol latin america is repudiating the LGBT pushing for teaching "gender ideology" at schools and the left has been wiped out from the continent.

Peru fired their education minister after she tried to push a curriculum saying that gender roles are social constructs, Colombia fired her lesbian minister after she produced a manual for schools regarding "discrimination" for sexual orientation, people stormed the steets against EPN's proposal of legalizing gay marriage in Mexico and the biggest opponent of LGBT overreach and gender ideology in Brazil ranks second in the presidential polls (actually first since the guy ahead of him will be indicted).

Latin America is fed up with LGBT overreach in almost the same levels of Eastern Europe.

What? Last I checked there are socialist governments in Venezuela, Ecuador, Chile, Nicaragua, and Bolivia.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 02:33:44 PM »

LGBT overreach has caused that.

They gained the sympath of lots of people then started pushing for marrying on churches, trans bathrooms, LGBT rights will only last in places where they were achieved by legislation, and that's their fault.

You think gay people are being arrested in Tajikistan because trans people in America are allowed to use the girls toilets?
These places see the west as weak for their push of such agendas happening at blazing speed down here, which has sparked a stronger opposition in places like Russia, Eastern Europe and Latin America, places where nobody believes the ISIS solution is the go-to solution for LGBT people but they see a threat against the normal gender roles that take place at their societies.

A white liberal from Raleigh saying people with a penis can use the girls bathroom is something that will leave them baffled.

Oddly enough, in much of the developing world (Pakistan, Indonesia, India, Iran, Thailand) transgender (or people in the West we would call transgender) individuals are far more accepted within society and relatively powerful politically compared to gays.

And yes, the current anti-LGBT onslaught is awful. But of course nationalists will defend this  because "it's muh culture". (Even though in many cases the older culture is far more permissive than the relatively recent infections of Salafism and uber-evangelical Christianity)
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 03:15:25 PM »

It's sort of mixed.  In the developed world, LGBT community has made great strides and we've seen a number of fairly socially conservative countries like Ireland, US, and Malta legalize gay marriage and the public was largely supportive of it.  But in the developing world quite a different story as many seem to be going in the opposite direction, particularly in Africa, Middle East, and former USSR.  Latin America is the one notable exception where LGBT rights are dramatically improving despite being fairly religious and developing countries.
Lol Latin America is repudiating the LGBT pushing for teaching "gender ideology" at schools and the left has been wiped out from the continent.

Peru fired their education minister after she tried to push a curriculum saying that gender roles are social constructs, Colombia fired her lesbian minister after she produced a manual for schools regarding "discrimination" for sexual orientation, people stormed the steets against EPN's proposal of legalizing gay marriage in Mexico and the biggest opponent of LGBT overreach and gender ideology in Brazil ranks second in the presidential polls (actually first since the guy ahead of him will be indicted).

Latin America is fed up with LGBT overreach in almost the same levels of Eastern Europe.

You have no idea about the discussion here in Latin America (and clearly how politics works here).

One of the things that amazed me more about my continent is how fast our morale changes (for the better). Public opinion changes  very rapidly here (although we still are years behind some developed nations). The people that seems more uncomfortable aren't pissed off, but more like "I'm too old to adapt" and understand why things change, but there isn't a sizable reactionary movement.

This is the first time I see someone says that the left is losing here because of gender ideology hahaha oh my god, the change is losing because of the commodity bust that happened between 2011 and 2015 that harmed fiscal accounts and caused a rise in inflation.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2017, 07:06:55 PM »

It's sort of mixed.  In the developed world, LGBT community has made great strides and we've seen a number of fairly socially conservative countries like Ireland, US, and Malta legalize gay marriage and the public was largely supportive of it.  But in the developing world quite a different story as many seem to be going in the opposite direction, particularly in Africa, Middle East, and former USSR.  Latin America is the one notable exception where LGBT rights are dramatically improving despite being fairly religious and developing countries.
Lol Latin America is repudiating the LGBT pushing for teaching "gender ideology" at schools and the left has been wiped out from the continent.

Peru fired their education minister after she tried to push a curriculum saying that gender roles are social constructs, Colombia fired her lesbian minister after she produced a manual for schools regarding "discrimination" for sexual orientation, people stormed the steets against EPN's proposal of legalizing gay marriage in Mexico and the biggest opponent of LGBT overreach and gender ideology in Brazil ranks second in the presidential polls (actually first since the guy ahead of him will be indicted).

Latin America is fed up with LGBT overreach in almost the same levels of Eastern Europe.

You have no idea about the discussion here in Latin America (and clearly how politics works here).

One of the things that amazed me more about my continent is how fast our morale changes (for the better). Public opinion changes  very rapidly here (although we still are years behind some developed nations). The people that seems more uncomfortable aren't pissed off, but more like "I'm too old to adapt" and understand why things change, but there isn't a sizable reactionary movement.

This is the first time I see someone says that the left is losing here because of gender ideology hahaha oh my god, the change is losing because of the commodity bust that happened between 2011 and 2015 that harmed fiscal accounts and caused a rise in inflation.


Latin America has at least within the developing world bucked the trend.  Also I think the swing to the right is more a case of the Pink tide ebbing so just general cycles.  It's been over a decade since the Pink Tide swept Latin America so it was bound to end at some point, nothing to do with gay marriage.  In the US, the GOP in terms of control at all levels of government is at its highest its ever been yet that doesn't mean the US is becoming more conservative on gay rights, in fact quite the opposite.  Likewise in Europe you are seeing a rightward swing but that doesn't mean change in gay rights either.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2017, 09:58:14 PM »

LGBT overreach has caused that.

They gained the sympath of lots of people then started pushing for marrying on churches, trans bathrooms, LGBT rights will only last in places where they were achieved by legislation, and that's their fault.

You think gay people are being arrested in Tajikistan because trans people in America are allowed to use the girls toilets?
These places see the west as weak for their push of such agendas happening at blazing speed down here, which has sparked a stronger opposition in places like Russia, Eastern Europe and Latin America, places where nobody believes the ISIS solution is the go-to solution for LGBT people but they see a threat against the normal gender roles that take place at their societies.

A white liberal from Raleigh saying people with a penis can use the girls bathroom is something that will leave them baffled.


The vast, vast majority of people in Tajikistan are not aware of this issue. Please don't be obtuse.

Also, I have never seen a gay person suggest that we should force churches to hold gay weddings, or biracial couples demand churches be forced to hold interracial weddings.
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