Attack in NYC, multiple dead (MSNBC)

[Santander]

I hate to ask this question, and it truly is just a question, but could the fact that a society constantly produces men who are willing to commit these actions reveal something problematic about the society itself?  These events are becoming too horrifyingly routine for us to just say that these are awful dudes, and leave it there.  

I'm pretty sure young men have been like this dating back to the beginning of civilization.

[The Dowager Mod]

The suspect  is 29-year-old Sayfullo Saipov from Tampa, Florida.

[Person Man]

The suspect  is 29-year-old Sayfullo Saipov from Tampa, Florida.

My hometown!

Seriously, this is heinous but I am just tired of this sh**t.

[Gass3268]

FF move

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[Strudelcutie4427]

The guns the driver had were fake?

Paintball gun and airsoft gun by the sound of it. This guy seems like one incompetent asś terrorist but even a sh**ttÿ terrorist can cause real damage. Try this scum bag federally and execute him.

[Alabama_Indy10]

These events are really starting to get on my nerves. Don't hurt anybody else because your life isn't where you want it to be.

I blame the media for hyping them.

A hundred Americans die every day on our roads, but that gets no major coverage and hardly anyone cares.

Yes, because random accidents are random accidents. They don't involve plotting and can't be found out beforehand by authorities. Are you so densely hackish that you are willing to live with avoidable actions just to "stick it" to perceived bigots? Are you literally this horrible?

[Reaganfan]

He came to America on a program created by Chuck Schumer called The Diversity VISA.

Thanks, Chuck.

[Santander]

He came to America on a program created by Chuck Schumer called The Diversity VISA.

Thanks, Chuck.

The Diversity Visa predated Chuck Schumer, although it is true that Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill made it permanent. It is actually considered by most conservatives (even white nationalists) to be a worthwhile social experiment.

[Reaganfan]

He came to America on a program created by Chuck Schumer called The Diversity VISA.

Thanks, Chuck.

The Diversity Visa predated Chuck Schumer, although it is true that Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill made it permanent. It is actually considered by most conservatives (even white nationalists) to be a worthwhile social experiment.

No more social experiments. Time to rip it to shreds.

[rob in cal]

   I'm sure white nationalists support the diversity lottery and the huge amounts of European immigrants flooding into the US because of it. All kidding aside, does it make sense to have an immigration program dependent on such randomness?  I do recall the House passed a measure to abolish the diversity lottery a few years back, and it would make a great trade to get rid of it now in return for some type of DACA legislation.

[Torie]

Well, bike and pedestrian lanes wide enough to allow a vehicle to drive down them, particularly for a relatively long stretch, with access for such a vehicle, we now know are dangerous. The access needs to be controlled with periodic choke points for vehicles. 

[Gass3268]

I thought we were supposed wait a few days/weeks/years until we can discuss policy changes? Or is that only if a white person commits mass murder?

[SoLongAtlas]

Well, bike and pedestrian lanes wide enough to allow a vehicle to drive down them, particularly for a relatively long stretch, with access for such a vehicle, we now know are dangerous. The access needs to be controlled with periodic choke points for vehicles. 

Jersey barriers in between the road and the bike path. Simple fix.

[Gass3268]

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[Dr. Arch]

He came to America on a program created by Chuck Schumer called The Diversity VISA.

Thanks, Chuck.

The Diversity Visa predated Chuck Schumer, although it is true that Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill made it permanent. It is actually considered by most conservatives (even white nationalists) to be a worthwhile social experiment.

No more social experiments. Time to rip it to shreds.

Nope, sorry, your party is the one "in charge" (and I say this loosely given how much of a failure it has been). Own up to it. You failed.

Hope you like that treatment you guys gave Obama because it's coming right back to you now. Schumer is not responsible for one person over thousands that have benefited from the program. If you really want to address this issue, find the reasons why someone radicalized under your watch after so long.

Hint: You won't see it.

[Santander]

   I'm sure white nationalists support the diversity lottery and the huge amounts of European immigrants flooding into the US because of it. All kidding aside, does it make sense to have an immigration program dependent on such randomness?  I do recall the House passed a measure to abolish the diversity lottery a few years back, and it would make a great trade to get rid of it now in return for some type of DACA legislation.

Personally, I have never been a fan of the diversity lottery, even if I know many Israelis who have benefited from it, so I would support such a deal too.

[MasterJedi]

He came to America on a program created by Chuck Schumer called The Diversity VISA.

Thanks, Chuck.

The Diversity Visa predated Chuck Schumer, although it is true that Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill made it permanent. It is actually considered by most conservatives (even white nationalists) to be a worthwhile social experiment.

No more social experiments. Time to rip it to shreds.

So what you're saying is to ban guns, because it's a social experiment that's lead to lots of deaths. You know, one person ruining it for the whole thing?

[Gass3268]

Weak leadership by Trump

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[Wakie77]

He came to America on a program created by Chuck Schumer called The Diversity VISA.

Thanks, Chuck.

The Diversity Visa predated Chuck Schumer, although it is true that Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill made it permanent. It is actually considered by most conservatives (even white nationalists) to be a worthwhile social experiment.

No more social experiments. Time to rip it to shreds.

Now is not the time to discuss immigration policy. There will certainly be a time for that policy discussion to take place, but that’s not the place that we’re in at this moment. We should not engage in a policy discussion on a day of mourning. (Before flaming me swap the words 'immigration policy' with 'gun control' and you get the WH quote from about 1 month ago.)

[Dr. Arch]

Weak leadership by Trump

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More incompetence.

What a surprise /s

[Gass3268]

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[Badger]

These events are really starting to get on my nerves. Don't hurt anybody else because your life isn't where you want it to be.

They're losers. Every time. They're always ex petty criminals who still can't get ahead in civil society.

Bingo. And even those who may not (yet) have records are still fundamental losers.

[TheSaint250]

Weak leadership by Trump

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More incompetence.

What a surprise /s

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

A German woman is among the victims, the New York City Fire Department has just reported.

[Gass3268]

Also this incident proves that Herman Cain was wrong.