Indictment-O-Rama Megathread: Mueller indicts 13 Russians

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

If Corallo is telling the truth, that is pretty much ballgame. Hope Hicks and President Trump obstructed justice.

[Virginiá]

If Corallo is telling the truth, that is pretty much ballgame. Hope Hicks and President Trump obstructed justice.

Honestly, I don't think it will ever be ballgame or there will ever be a home run in this regard. It doesn't change the fact that DoJ policy states a sitting president can't be indicted, and impeachment+conviction is a political question that Congressional Republicans will likely never entertain.

I mean, look at it this way, Trump and the GOP have been blatantly running a huge smear campaign against Mueller's investigation while also drumming up memos and other things to justify removing Rosenstein so Mueller's criminal investigation can be sabotaged. This is all pretty much obstruction of justice, yet they are acting like it isn't because apparently when it comes to POTUS, anything is allowed.

I think we've pretty much passed the point where things actually matter. There is no integrity, dignity, shame or even a modicum amount of respect for the law anymore.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

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Lol, these people are so guilty.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/us/politics/trump-russia-hope-hicks-mueller.html

And dumb.

Watergate, but stupid.

[Mike Thick]

The deep state must be playing a remarkable long game

Did you see this? Rush Limbaugh: Maybe the liberal “deep state” fabricated Iraq War WMD evidence to embarrass Bush

“Everything I Don’t Like is The Deep State: A Conservative’s Guide to Political Discourse”

[Sestak]

Got em.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

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Lol, these people are so guilty.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/us/politics/trump-russia-hope-hicks-mueller.html

LOCK HER UP!  LOCK HER UP!  LOCK HER UP!

[Sestak]

AND NUNES EDITED THE MEMO!

[HisGrace]

AND NUNES EDITED THE MEMO!

I was going to comment earlier today, and it seems even more relevant now, is Nunes inching closer to there theoretically being an obstruction case against him if he keeps doing stuff like this?

[Gass3268]

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[pbrower2a]

The biggest possible target is Mike Pence, as he can hardly avoid complicity.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Trump is going through FBI directors faster than he went through porn-stars.

[Torrain]

If Wray resigns, are we in Saturday Night Massacre territory?

[KingSweden]

If Wray resigns, are we in Saturday Night Massacre territory?

More or less.

[pbrower2a]

An impeachment of Donald Trump would require at the least all Democrats and Democratically-aligned Independents... and one of three wings of the GOP -- either the Big Business wing, the libertarian wing, or the theocratic wing. Neither wing gets along well with Democrats.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

An impeachment of Donald Trump would require at the least all Democrats and Democratically-aligned Independents... and one of three wings of the GOP -- either the Big Business wing, the libertarian wing, or the theocratic wing. Neither wing gets along well with Democrats.

The last couple years have demonstrated that the 'theocratic' and 'libertarian' wings are really just about providing cover to bigots. Which leaves Big Business. But Big Business itself is split between a "we need to keep the sheep healthy so that they grow wool, and besides, if they get really angry they'll start a revolt" wing, and a "if you can't squeeze any more blood from the peasant, sells his organs and enslave his kids, there are always more peasants" wing. And the latter wing is mostly Republican and seems to really like what Trump's feeding it.

So, elect more Dems, I guess, and then try to survive in the resulting cyberpunk dystopia, rather than the post-apocalyptic wasteland we'll get from Trump and the GOP.

[Sestak]

An impeachment of Donald Trump would require at the least all Democrats and Democratically-aligned Independents... and one of three wings of the GOP -- either the Big Business wing, the libertarian wing, or the theocratic wing. Neither wing gets along well with Democrats.

The 'libertarian wing' is just Reps. Jones, Amash, and Massie. That's it.

Paul and Lee are just virtue-signalers.

[IceSpear]

If Corallo is telling the truth, that is pretty much ballgame. Hope Hicks and President Trump obstructed justice.

Honestly, I don't think it will ever be ballgame or there will ever be a home run in this regard. It doesn't change the fact that DoJ policy states a sitting president can't be indicted, and impeachment+conviction is a political question that Congressional Republicans will likely never entertain.

I mean, look at it this way, Trump and the GOP have been blatantly running a huge smear campaign against Mueller's investigation while also drumming up memos and other things to justify removing Rosenstein so Mueller's criminal investigation can be sabotaged. This is all pretty much obstruction of justice, yet they are acting like it isn't because apparently when it comes to POTUS, anything is allowed.

I think we've pretty much passed the point where things actually matter. There is no integrity, dignity, shame or even a modicum amount of respect for the law anymore.

Welcome to the cynic train, Virginia.

[Silent Hunter]

Somewhere, Vladimir Putin is laughing maniacally.

[GeorgiaModerate]

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This likely means that Gates has flipped and will cooperate with the investigation.

[Person Man]

If Corallo is telling the truth, that is pretty much ballgame. Hope Hicks and President Trump obstructed justice.

Honestly, I don't think it will ever be ballgame or there will ever be a home run in this regard. It doesn't change the fact that DoJ policy states a sitting president can't be indicted, and impeachment+conviction is a political question that Congressional Republicans will likely never entertain.

I mean, look at it this way, Trump and the GOP have been blatantly running a huge smear campaign against Mueller's investigation while also drumming up memos and other things to justify removing Rosenstein so Mueller's criminal investigation can be sabotaged. This is all pretty much obstruction of justice, yet they are acting like it isn't because apparently when it comes to POTUS, anything is allowed.

I think we've pretty much passed the point where things actually matter. There is no integrity, dignity, shame or even a modicum amount of respect for the law anymore.

Welcome to the cynic train, Virginia.

This period of history is where the Right fully adopts moral relativism and anything goes ammorality.

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation has gathered enough steam that some lawyers representing key Donald Trump associates are considering the possibility of a historic first: an indictment against a sitting president.

While many legal experts contend that Mueller lacks the standing to bring criminal charges against Trump, at least two attorneys working with clients swept up in the Russia probe told POLITICO they consider it possible that Mueller could indict the president for obstruction of justice.

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The second attorney, who represents a senior Trump official, speculated that Mueller could try to bring an indictment against Trump even if he expects the move to draw fierce procedural challenges from the president’s lawyers – if only to demonstrate the gravity of his findings.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Three of Gates' attorneys are leaving. He has retained one new attorney.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/politics/rick-gates-attorneys-withdraw/index.html?sr=twCNN020118rick-gates-attorneys-withdraw0546PMStory

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[Person Man]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation has gathered enough steam that some lawyers representing key Donald Trump associates are considering the possibility of a historic first: an indictment against a sitting president.

While many legal experts contend that Mueller lacks the standing to bring criminal charges against Trump, at least two attorneys working with clients swept up in the Russia probe told POLITICO they consider it possible that Mueller could indict the president for obstruction of justice.

...

The second attorney, who represents a senior Trump official, speculated that Mueller could try to bring an indictment against Trump even if he expects the move to draw fierce procedural challenges from the president’s lawyers – if only to demonstrate the gravity of his findings.

He can run the country wearing an ankle bracelet and have Pence do his overseas trips if Republicans won't impeach him. I bet they would be fine having the country run through Ft. Leavenworth.

[Middle-aged Europe]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation has gathered enough steam that some lawyers representing key Donald Trump associates are considering the possibility of a historic first: an indictment against a sitting president.

While many legal experts contend that Mueller lacks the standing to bring criminal charges against Trump, at least two attorneys working with clients swept up in the Russia probe told POLITICO they consider it possible that Mueller could indict the president for obstruction of justice.

...

The second attorney, who represents a senior Trump official, speculated that Mueller could try to bring an indictment against Trump even if he expects the move to draw fierce procedural challenges from the president’s lawyers – if only to demonstrate the gravity of his findings.

Brace yourselves... Saturday Night Massacre incoming.

[Silent Hunter]

I think actual imprisonment would be grounds for the 25th Amendment as he's incapable of being Commander in Chief.