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« Reply #325 on: October 30, 2017, 09:52:07 AM »
Quote from: Beezer on October 30, 2017, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: We Have A Pope on October 30, 2017, 09:09:15 AM
Good luck pardoning someone for conspiracy against the United States.

The first charge against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates — “conspiracy against the United States” — sounds dramatic, but it has a relatively straightforward explanation. It means that Manafort and Gates agreed to commit the illegal acts outlined in the rest of the indictment — i.e., violating foreign lobbying laws and misrepresenting their activities to the Department of Justice.

Conspiracy is a separate crime from the other offenses that Manafort and Gates are being charged with, and people can be convicted of conspiracy even if they don’t actually go on to commit the relevant offenses. There are dozens of conspiracy statutes on the books that involve specific illegal activities (which is why the second charge against Manafort and Gates is conspiracy to launder money). Members of the conspiracy can also be held liable for the illegal actions of other conspiracy members, which means that conspiracy charges can be used to turn defendants against each other.

The punishment for conspiracy against the United States is a fine or imprisonment for up to five years. The most common conspiracies involve fraud or drug trafficking — examples of people who have been convicted of various kinds of federal conspiracies include one of the men who planned 9/11 and several Enron executives.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/manafort-indictment-trump-russia/

Doesn’t matter, the optics of such a pardon would be too politically toxic, even for Trump.
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« Reply #326 on: October 30, 2017, 09:52:11 AM »
Live reaction look at all other Trump associates
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« Reply #327 on: October 30, 2017, 09:53:52 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 30, 2017, 09:50:57 AM
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The Papadopolous indictment is more devastating as it relates directly to Trump-Russia collusion.

Yeah, it's probably Elmo-worthy all by itself.

Related:
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« Reply #328 on: October 30, 2017, 09:54:37 AM »
Lol half of Trump's staff is fleeing the country now.
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« Reply #329 on: October 30, 2017, 09:58:02 AM »
This whole Russian Scandal thing is obviously a big NOTHINGBURGER~!
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« Reply #330 on: October 30, 2017, 09:58:20 AM »
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« Reply #331 on: October 30, 2017, 09:59:03 AM »
Quote from: Grumpy Lives Matter on October 30, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
Quote from: Doctor Imperialism on October 30, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
Wow, Grumps just vanished from this thread after the third indictment, didn't he?

We have 3 threads.......do I really need to respond to your boners in every one of them, Doc?  Wink

Yes.
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« Reply #332 on: October 30, 2017, 10:00:04 AM »
Quote from: PittsburghSteel on October 30, 2017, 09:54:37 AM
Lol half of Trump's staff is fleeing the country now.

They keep seeing that fn chopper on the way back from making the pasta
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« Reply #333 on: October 30, 2017, 10:01:30 AM »
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« Reply #334 on: October 30, 2017, 10:02:18 AM »
I think this is most significant:
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« Reply #335 on: October 30, 2017, 10:02:41 AM »
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.@RepPeteKing: "There is absolutely nothing in these indictments that any way involves the campaign, that any way involves President Trump."
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« Reply #336 on: October 30, 2017, 10:03:58 AM »
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.@RepPeteKing: "There is absolutely nothing in these indictments that any way involves the campaign, that any way involves President Trump."
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« Reply #337 on: October 30, 2017, 10:04:10 AM »
Quote from: AKCreative on October 30, 2017, 09:58:02 AM
This whole Russian Scandal thing is obviously a big NOTHINGBURGER~!

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.@RepPeteKing: "There is absolutely nothing in these indictments that any way involves the campaign, that any way involves President Trump."


Can we merge all this sh**t into one thread, please?
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« Reply #338 on: October 30, 2017, 10:04:59 AM »
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.@RepPeteKing: "There is absolutely nothing in these indictments that any way involves the campaign, that any way involves President Trump."

Yeah, I imagine you believe that but the evidence says otherwise. Awful redirect which the Trumplicans will eat up. I promise you that Clinton indictment is never coming.
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« Reply #339 on: October 30, 2017, 10:05:16 AM »
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.@RepPeteKing: "There is absolutely nothing in these indictments that any way involves the campaign, that any way involves President Trump."

Looks like he went on the air with talking points about Manafort, but it was too late for him to learn about Papadopoulos.
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« Reply #340 on: October 30, 2017, 10:05:52 AM »

There she is.
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« Reply #341 on: October 30, 2017, 10:06:43 AM »

omg lmao bye
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« Reply #342 on: October 30, 2017, 10:07:19 AM »
The Trump Presidency was good while it lasted, I guess. Sad
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« Reply #343 on: October 30, 2017, 10:08:53 AM »



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« Reply #344 on: October 30, 2017, 10:09:45 AM »
It seems that GOP talking points now is to talk about Manafort ("not related to the campaign") in order to bury the Papadopoulos story (which is related to the campaign).
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« Reply #345 on: October 30, 2017, 10:09:56 AM »
Quote from: Santander on October 30, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
The Trump Presidency was good while it lasted, I guess. Sad

Trump isn't going to be impeached unless the Democrats take back both the House AND Senate, and I don't see him stepping down unless he's literally dying or about to go to prison, so...
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« Reply #346 on: October 30, 2017, 10:10:03 AM »
Quote from: Santander on October 30, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
The Trump Presidency was good while it lasted, I guess. Sad
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« Reply #347 on: October 30, 2017, 10:11:42 AM »
Quote from: Helsinkian on October 30, 2017, 10:09:45 AM
It seems that GOP talking points now is to talk about Manafort ("not related to the campaign") in order to bury the Papadopoulos story (which is related to the campaign).

Yes, Manafort, the CAMPAIGN MANAGER AT THE TIME, is not related to the campaign. GOP has all the brightest excuses, /sarcasm. Excuse me for not loving the sight of all the rats leaving the sinking ship.
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« Reply #348 on: October 30, 2017, 10:12:35 AM »
Quote from: Grumpy Lives Matter on October 30, 2017, 10:04:10 AM
Quote from: AKCreative on October 30, 2017, 09:58:02 AM
This whole Russian Scandal thing is obviously a big NOTHINGBURGER~!

Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 25 minutes ago
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.@RepPeteKing: "There is absolutely nothing in these indictments that any way involves the campaign, that any way involves President Trump."


Can we merge all this sh**t into one thread, please?

The sticked thread is here folks https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=275946.300
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« Reply #349 on: October 30, 2017, 10:12:47 AM »
Me for the rest of the day:
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