Indictment-O-Rama Megathread: Mueller indicts 13 Russians

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Shutting the Special Counsel's Office doesn't terminate the grand jury, nor does it stop state level charges that Trump can't pardon.

The grand jury is just a bunch of regular people though. It can't really do anything without a prosecutor. I guess state-level stuff would go on, but I'm not sure what they are up to so I can't comment on that.

You must prove that there is a case, even if the case is in flagrante delicto. (caught in the act) Law enforcement must swear to probable cause.  

In this series of allegations we have a money trail, travel itineraries, and perhaps some phone logs. So if there are people still convinced that the President is infallible and that people around him are angels, then such is their choice, much as it is my choice to believe that Michigan and Pennsylvania share a border should I be so silly.  

what?

He is saying that Trump and his campaign look guilty enough that any honest grand jury will authorize a case against them. And that anyone who claims otherwise is willfully denying an obvious reality.

[Virginiá]

He is saying that Trump and his campaign look guilty enough that any honest grand jury will authorize a case against them. And that anyone who claims otherwise is willfully denying an obvious reality.

I really wish he would be more concise sometimes. His words can meander from time to time.

I don't agree with the grand jury:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/trump-grand-jury-fire-mueller-217002

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[ProgressiveCanadian]

Something on CNN about Kushner resisting getting rid of his security clearance, something like that not sure they said they would explain after break.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Sounds like a Kushner vs Kelly battle going on in Whitehouse over classified information.

[pbrower2a]

Something on CNN about Kushner resisting getting rid of his security clearance, something like that not sure they said they would explain after break.

The last President that I recall with even  one family member acting as staff was John F. Kennedy -- and his brother Robert F. Kennedy was hyper-qualified. (This does not include First Ladies making campaign appearances or pushing pet agendas).

Clans and tribes make poor government.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Mueller probing whether Manafort promised banker a WH job in return for loans: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-if-manafort-promised-banker-white-house-job-return-n849916

[KingSweden]

Mueller probing whether Manafort promised banker a WH job in return for loans: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-if-manafort-promised-banker-white-house-job-return-n849916

I get the sense Paul Manafort ain’t too sharp

[pbrower2a]

Mueller probing whether Manafort promised banker a WH job in return for loans: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-if-manafort-promised-banker-white-house-job-return-n849916

I get the sense Paul Manafort ain’t too sharp

That sounds like bank fraud as a form of bribery to a loan officer. 

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Mueller probing whether Manafort promised banker a WH job in return for loans: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-if-manafort-promised-banker-white-house-job-return-n849916

I get the sense Paul Manafort ain’t too sharp

Nah, I think he’s just ridiculously greedy and started getting sloppy after over a decade of not getting caught.  I think he’s probably still in denial about how screwed he is if he doesn’t flip.

[GeorgiaModerate]

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Regarding the last item, new sealed charges were filed in the Manafort/Gates case today: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-21/mueller-files-sealed-new-charges-in-manafort-gates-case

[ProgressiveCanadian]

They will get Trump on money laundering, hear me now quote me later.

[KingSweden]

They will get Trump on money laundering, hear me now quote me later.

A sound prediction.

[Crumpets]

They will get Trump on money laundering, hear me now quote me later.

A sound prediction.

If that is indeed the case, I can pretty much guarantee his reaction will be something to the effect of "Total vindication from Mueller investigation - no collusion!"

[GeorgiaModerate]

Virginia grand jury has filed a new 32-count indictment against Manafort and Gates: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4385690/2-22-18-Manafort-Gates-Indictment-EDVA.pdf

[GeorgiaModerate]

Virginia grand jury has filed a new 32-count indictment against Manafort and Gates: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4385690/2-22-18-Manafort-Gates-Indictment-EDVA.pdf

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[GeorgiaModerate]

Stupid criminals department: apparently Manafort created an incriminating paper trail because he needed Gates's help to convert a Word document to PDF.  (Details at https://twitter.com/TheViewFromLL2/status/966807752696909826.)

[Sestak]

Wait, doesn't Word have "Print to PDF"? LMAO

[KingSweden]

Wait, doesn't Word have "Print to PDF"? LMAO

Save As, it’s literally one of the options

[Gass3268]

Former Trump aide Richard Gates poised to plead guilty, cooperate with special counsel, sources say

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[Gass3268]

[Gass3268]

New York Times confirms ABC

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[Gass3268]

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[GeorgiaModerate]

That seems like a very light plea deal in light of all the charges Gates was facing.  He must be giving Mueller a ton in exchange.

[Gass3268]

That seems like a very light plea deal in light of all the charges Gates was facing.  He must be giving Mueller a ton in exchange.

Its a bit more harsh than the other plea agreements as he had to admit to the Conspiracy Against The United States.

[Gass3268]

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher might be in trouble.

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