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« Reply #1825 on: February 20, 2018, 01:55:06 PM »
« edited: February 20, 2018, 01:59:53 PM by pbrower2a »


Lots of interesting data here. Governor Greg Abbott is doing OK with an approval rating in the usual range of pols getting re-elected. Congress gives a 19-61 split on approval rating, which is abominable. The two Republican Senators are both underwater in what has been one of the stronger Republican states since the 1984.  Senator Ted Cruz is underwater 40-41; to get re-elected comfortably he needs to have an approval rating in the mid-40s. Senator John Cornyn is underwater at 29-38... but he is not up for re-election.

Ted Cruz is vulnerable to a spirited and competent challenge. Beto O'Rourke has a positive spread of approval at a low level.

Texas is in range for a Democratic wave as it was not ten years ago. But unless there is some radical shift in the ways in which the states vote relative to each other, Texas is likely the difference between the Democrats winning the Presidency as Clinton did in the 1990s or Obama did in 2008 -- and ending up with just over 400 electoral votes. Demography is changing Texas in two ways. First, its electorate is becoming better educated, approaching the national average. Although well-educated suburban  white people voted heavily against Obama in 2008 and 2012 (see also Georgia), they are beginning to fit the national pattern better. Second (without the double-counting), the fast-growing Mexican-American electorate finds Donald Trump 'good' only for insults of them.  

If Texas votes nearly 50-50 in 2020 for President, as most polls so far suggest,  then the President will be losing about 57-43 nationwide. Donald Trump is not the new Ronald Reagan.

PPP-Wisconsin:

(Donald Trump)

Approve 44%
Disapprove 52%

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On Governor Walker, its 43-52.

Trump will need Walker as Governor of Wisconsin if he is to win the state, and he is nearly as unpopular as the President already..

Cook PVI ratings:

Color and intensity will indicate the variance from a tie (ties will be in white) with  in a 50-50 election with blue for an R lean and red for a D lean. Numbers will be shown except in individual districts

int      var
2        1-4%
3        5-8%
5        9-12%
7        13-19%
9        20% or more







DC -- way out of reach for any Republican.

ME-01 D+8
ME-02 R+2

NE-01 R+11
NE-02 R+4
NE-03 R+27

(data from Wikipedia, map mine)

Here  is the Gallup data for 2017. Figuring that this is an average from early February to late December, I will have to assume an average date of July 15 or so for the polling data. This is now rather old data, and in some cases obsolete. For example, I see Trump support cratering in the Mountain and Deep South. the Mountain South and Deep South are going back to a populist phase (the South has typically oscillated between the  two) or whether The Donald is beginning to appear as a bad match for either part of the South.  This data (or later polling) is not  intended to show anything other than how support appears at some time or at an average of times. As a general rule, new polling supplants even better old  polling.

So here  is the Gallup polling with a number  of 100-DIS reflecting what I consider the ceiling for Donald Trump. This is lenient to the extent that I assume that he can pick up most undecided voters but recognizes that undoing disapproval at any stage requires miracles. By definition, miracles are unpredictable.

 Gallup data from all polls in 2017 (average assumed  in mid-July):



*Approval lower than disapproval in this state

for barely-legible numbers for DC and some states -- CT 37 DC 11 DE 42 HI 40 MD 35 RI 38

Lightest shades are for a raw total of votes that allows for a win with a margin of 5% or less; middle shades are for totals with allow for wins with 6 to 10% margins; deepest shades are for vote percentages that allow wins of 10% or more. Numbers are for the projected vote for Trump.

This is polling from October or later, and I will be adding a poll of Florida from October because it is newer than the Gallup polling data.

 I use 100-DIS as a reasonable ceiling for the Trump vote in 2020. Thus:




Lightest shades are for a raw total of votes that allows for a win with a margin of 5% or less; middle shades are for totals with allow for wins with 6 to 10% margins; deepest shades are for vote percentages that allow wins of 10% or more. Numbers are for the projected vote for Trump.

Note -- if Trump is underwater in the polling, then the results come out in pink.    

Variation from PVI (polls from October 2017 and later):



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« Reply #1826 on: February 20, 2018, 02:22:26 PM »

PPP has had some polls that are wayyyy too Pro-Trump.
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« Reply #1827 on: February 20, 2018, 04:53:12 PM »

Trump approval remaining stead (ily bad) in Reuters/Ipsos.

Approve: 39 (-1)
Disapprove: 55 (+1)

But no signs of big downswing this week as other polls have suggested.
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« Reply #1828 on: February 21, 2018, 08:28:20 AM »
« Edited: February 21, 2018, 09:46:57 AM by Gass3268 »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

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Their sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.
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« Reply #1829 on: February 21, 2018, 09:03:17 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

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There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Wonder how many of the RW pundits that hyped up the poll last week will post the new version?...
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« Reply #1830 on: February 21, 2018, 09:34:54 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

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There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Wonder how many of the RW pundits that hyped up the poll last week will post the new version?...

Lol zero of them
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« Reply #1831 on: February 21, 2018, 09:41:36 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

Source

There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Looks like the tax bill does have an effect. I don't like to say it, and it's very early, but with these numbers, reelection is not off the table.
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« Reply #1832 on: February 21, 2018, 09:47:24 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

Source

There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Looks like the tax bill does have an effect. I don't like to say it, and it's very early, but with these numbers, reelection is not off the table.

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« Reply #1833 on: February 21, 2018, 09:48:57 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

Source

There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Looks like the tax bill does have an effect. I don't like to say it, and it's very early, but with these numbers, reelection is not off the table.

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« Reply #1834 on: February 21, 2018, 09:49:28 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

Source

There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Wonder how many of the RW pundits that hyped up the poll last week will post the new version?...

Lol zero of them

Funny thing is I'm not seeing the Generic Congressional Ballot in this poll. Did they leave it out this week?
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« Reply #1835 on: February 21, 2018, 09:54:09 AM »

Ipsos/Reuters, Feb 15-19, 972 adults

Approve 39 (-1)
Disapprove 55 (+1)

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« Reply #1836 on: February 21, 2018, 10:13:40 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

Source

There sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.

Wonder how many of the RW pundits that hyped up the poll last week will post the new version?...

Lol zero of them

Funny thing is I'm not seeing the Generic Congressional Ballot in this poll. Did they leave it out this week?

Lol. Probably was D+8 or something and they yanked it out of there.
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« Reply #1837 on: February 21, 2018, 11:48:51 AM »

Politico/Morning Consult:

Approve 45 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+4)

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Their sample this week only voted for Trump 38-35, rather than last week's 39-32.
Considering the sample change, not really an improvement. Titanium Trump poll, though beginning to look outlier ish with other polls shifting back toward the Dems.
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« Reply #1838 on: February 21, 2018, 12:05:39 PM »

Trump back to about normal in Quinnipiac:

Approve 37% (-3)
Disapprove 58% (+3)

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« Reply #1839 on: February 21, 2018, 12:55:11 PM »

Trump back to about normal in Quinnipiac:

Approve 37% (-3)
Disapprove 58% (+3)

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« Reply #1840 on: February 21, 2018, 01:05:06 PM »

Trump back to about normal in Quinnipiac:

Approve 37% (-3)
Disapprove 58% (+3)

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From that poll….looks like most Americans think Trump has cheated on Melania:

“Do you think President Trump has been loyal to his wife throughout his marriage?”

Yes 18%
No 56%
Don’t know 26%
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« Reply #1841 on: February 21, 2018, 01:08:39 PM »

Trump back to about normal in Quinnipiac:

Approve 37% (-3)
Disapprove 58% (+3)

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From that poll….looks like most Americans think Trump has cheated on Melania:

“Do you think President Trump has been loyal to his wife throughout his marriage?”

Yes 18%
No 56%
Don’t know 26%


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« Reply #1842 on: February 21, 2018, 01:09:43 PM »

Trump back to about normal in Quinnipiac:

Approve 37% (-3)
Disapprove 58% (+3)

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From that poll….looks like most Americans think Trump has cheated on Melania:

“Do you think President Trump has been loyal to his wife throughout his marriage?”

Yes 18%
No 56%
Don’t know 26%

It should be 90-10 since it's obvious he did.
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« Reply #1843 on: February 21, 2018, 01:14:25 PM »

The 18% who believe that Trump is loyal to Melania are the biggest marks in the history of humanity.
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« Reply #1844 on: February 21, 2018, 01:53:02 PM »

The 18% who believe that Trump is loyal to Melania are the biggest marks in the history of humanity.

I wonder how many of that 18% are self-styled Christian Conservatives.
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« Reply #1845 on: February 21, 2018, 03:26:03 PM »

Really? 18%? I was expecting way lower. You’d have to imagine many Republicans figure he fooled around but just don’t care.
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« Reply #1846 on: February 21, 2018, 03:30:56 PM »

the approval ratings make no difference, trump will say he MAGA and decline to run in 2020. which is perfect for a mainstream repub to take the reigns for 8 years
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« Reply #1847 on: February 21, 2018, 03:35:17 PM »

the approval ratings make no difference, trump will say he MAGA and decline to run in 2020. which is perfect for a mainstream repub to take the reigns for 8 years

This is a remarkable misreading of Trump’s ego. Though who knows if he hates the job as much as it seems maybe he does.
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« Reply #1848 on: February 21, 2018, 03:39:02 PM »

the approval ratings make no difference, trump will say he MAGA and decline to run in 2020. which is perfect for a mainstream repub to take the reigns for 8 years

This is a remarkable misreading of Trump’s ego. Though who knows if he hates the job as much as it seems maybe he does.

I've thought all along that this is a quite possible outcome.  Trump is old and the job is more stressful and not as much fun as he thought it would be.  I could easily see him saying that he'd accomplished everything he wanted to do and retiring in 2020 (along with all the cash he's raised for his re-election campaign.)
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« Reply #1849 on: February 21, 2018, 03:39:59 PM »

the approval ratings make no difference, trump will say he MAGA and decline to run in 2020. which is perfect for a mainstream repub to take the reigns for 8 years

This is a remarkable misreading of Trump’s ego. Though who knows if he hates the job as much as it seems maybe he does.

his ego may not be able to handle a loss - so he may choose to forego the probably inevitable loss. also if kushner/ivanka get indicted or mueller looks at his finances then his ego goes out the window
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