The Budget Process committee (Template Vote, 48 hours!)

[Pragmatic Conservative]

The Budget Process committee

1184AZ-Chair Fed-Fremont*
Scott-Senate PPT Lab-Lincoln
PiT-VP Fed-South
Young Texan-SOIA Fed-Lincoln
North Carolina Yankee-House Speaker Fed-South

This thread will be dedicated to the work of the Budget Process and Control Committee. We will get started as soon as all members of the committee are selected.  

Only votes in cases of a tie

2016 Budget
Budget:https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/reports/52152-mbr.pdf
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2016 https://www.congress.gov/114/plaws/publ113/PLAW-114publ113.pdf


Bills that spend money or raise revenue by Congress:

8th Congress:
The Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding, and Tsunami Prevention Act of 2017
Renewable Energy Rebate and Subsidy Act
Public Service Act
Refugee Act 2017

7th Congress:
Student Loan Reform Act
Flint Reinvestment Act
Veterans’ Dental Health Act
Prescription Drug Transparency Act.
Atlasian Aid Protection Act
Forest Revitalization and Preservation Act
Reforming and Regionalizing Public Healthcare Act of 2017

6th Congress

No More Going Hungry in Atlasia Act
Voting Rights Amendment

5th Congress
Come Out of the Shadows Act
HB 1077 Fiscal Responsibility in our Military Act
The Federal Penitentiary Reform Act of 2017 (FPRA)
Gas Tax Act of 2016
An amendment to the 'A Real Living Wage Act'
Ending the Embargo of Cuba Act (EECA)

Second Congress
Orlando Memorial Act
Corporate Tax Reform Bill   (this bill takes effect in 2018)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AZ, while my election is being finalized, we can still start gathering up the relevant threads. Which I think you should put into a list in the OP for easy access:

This was what he inherited with the reset.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_federal_budget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Appropriations_Act,_2016

Bills that spend money or raise revenue by Congress:

8th Congress:
The Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding, and Tsunami Prevention Act of 2017
Renewable Energy Rebate and Subsidy Act
Public Service Act
Refugee Act 2017

7th Congress:
Student Loan Reform Act
Flint Reinvestment Act
Veterans’ Dental Health Act
Prescription Drug Transparency Act.
Atlasian Aid Protection Act
Forest Revitalization and Preservation Act
Reforming and Regionalizing Public Healthcare Act of 2017

6th Congress (A lot of Resolutions, and non money related bills this Congress)

No More Going Hungry in Atlasia Act
Voting Rights Amendment

5th Congress
Come Out of the Shadows Act
HB 1077 Fiscal Responsibility in our Military Act
The Federal Penitentiary Reform Act of 2017 (FPRA)
Gas Tax Act of 2016
An amendment to the 'A Real Living Wage Act'
Ending the Embargo of Cuba Act (EECA)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

4th:
Trolololololol
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=256857.0

I only got 3 bills and 1 Amendment out of this Congress, when I was President. I think I may have flipped those numbers a few times. None of them spent or raised money.

3rd
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=254309.0

Prior to that the Vice President didn't create a noticeboard thread, which is unfortunate.

We do have Never's Spreadsheet though:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cePYs24eSeTye1VjfXJTKL3XOrtsXey4qAmwLIlpkTo/edit?usp=sharing

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Reserved

(This should be where we keep track on our current budget status)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We need to select a template for use to do the budget.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

We need to select a template for use to do the budget.

on the way!

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Ok this is where we start fiscally:

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/reports/52152-mbr.pdf

Here is the total of additional revenues and expenses added in game for 2017:

This is just a draft I will add in estimates for contingencies afterwards.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1h_jfUNraRiMnZob184T0lfU3hHc2h0SUM1SDBHc09NaERj/view?usp=sharing

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Bump
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Can we please gets some discussion going on this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Something else to consider. The unemployment rate is now higher than the RL one was in the FY2016. So that would balloon the deficit significantly.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I think a good starting point for us would be healthcare, as it is one-sixth of the nation's economy and recently saw a major overhaul.  Although we might not have a good picture of how much the country spends on healthcare overall until the regions craft their own plans and internal healthcare costs (such as delivery) are addressed, in the long term we should spend significantly less on healthcare than the US does now.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Apologies for butting in, but I just remembered that Congress passed thois law restructuring the corporate tax code last year; I don't know that it's been added to the wiki, but I figured it's relevant.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Apologies for butting in, but I just remembered that Congress passed thois law restructuring the corporate tax code last year; I don't know that it's been added to the wiki, but I figured it's relevant.

It doesn't come into effect until 2018. Your more then welcome to comment in thread.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Apologies for butting in, but I just remembered that Congress passed thois law restructuring the corporate tax code last year; I don't know that it's been added to the wiki, but I figured it's relevant.

My god that is a horrible way to write legislation. It reads like a campaign speech not a bill.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

When discussing the format for the template, we need to have something has reasonable groupings or categories of spending so that it is easy to have debates over those matters. If these are two broad, it will make debating such spending matters difficult and if two narrow, make the budget far too long and complex to swallow.

This is the pre reset setup

FY2013 budget:

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[Pragmatic Conservative]

As chair of the committee I hereby appoint North Carolina Yankee deputy BPC chair.

X1184AZ

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I open the floor for 24 hours to submit a budget template.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I submit the template used in the 2013 Budget proposal posted above.

[fhtagn]

I submit the template used in the 2013 Budget proposal posted above.

Seconding this submission for the template (if I'm even allowed to?), keeps things nice an organized for easier understanding/organization.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Apologies for butting in, but I just remembered that Congress passed thois law restructuring the corporate tax code last year; I don't know that it's been added to the wiki, but I figured it's relevant.

It doesn't come into effect until 2018. Your more then welcome to comment in thread.

It comes into effect with the fiscal year of 2018, which began on 1 October 2017.

Apologies for butting in, but I just remembered that Congress passed thois law restructuring the corporate tax code last year; I don't know that it's been added to the wiki, but I figured it's relevant.

My god that is a horrible way to write legislation. It reads like a campaign speech not a bill.

Ah, post-reset 2016 — otherwise known as the Dark Age of parliamentary procedure.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I support Deputy Chair Yankee's proposal. I am admittedly partial to the template that we have used in the South since 2011, but his is far more detailed and far superior.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

     I support Deputy Chair Yankee's proposal. I am admittedly partial to the template that we have used in the South since 2011, but his is far more detailed and far superior.

Post your template.


The Deputy BPC Chair commandeth it!

[Associate Justice PiT]

     In that case, here is the version from 2012 (the 2011 one had an accounting error that might prove distracting, so I chose this one instead):

     I have compiled the 2012 budget. In doing so, however, I have obtained revenue numbers that were very different from those that we got last year. Nevertheless, here is the new budget, presented for inspection:

2012 Budget

Notes

• Base shall be understood to refer to the combined totals of the state governments minus Puerto Rico.
• Total shall be understood to refer to the combined totals of the state and regional governments minus Puerto Rico.

Regional Spending

Pensions
-Base: $35.8 billion
-Total: $35.8 billion

Health care:
-Base: $113.9 billion
-Total: $113.9 billion

Education:
-Base: $66.8 billion
-Tertiary Education/Other Capital Outlay-Higher Education/Southeastern Educational Incentive Act: $3.5 billion
-Total: $70.3 billion

Defense:
-Base: $0.7 billion
-Military Defense/IDS Militia Structure Act: $0.4365 billion
-Total: $1.1365 billion

Welfare:
-Base: $36.5 billion
-Total: $36.5 billion

Protection:
-Base: $21.0 billion
-Total: $21.0 billion

Transportation:
-Base: $30.1 billion
-Total: $30.1 billion

General government:
-Base: $6.7 billion
-Total: $6.7 billion

Other spending:
-Base: $20.5 billion
-Puerto Rico: $16.61 billion (total spending of PR- PR is not included in any other category in Spending but the Total Regional Spending)
-Total: $37.11 billion

Interest: $6.6 billion (assumes that Regional Government does not have to pay its own interest)

Total Regional Spending: $359.1465 billion (includes Interest)

Regional Revenue

Income Taxes:
-Base: $0 (state cannot collect their own income taxes)
-Corporate Income Tax/Tax-Corporate Net Income/Put the "free" back in Free Enterprise Bill: (see personal income tax rate)
-Corporate Income Tax/Tax-Corporate Net Income/Southeast Nuclear Energy Initiative, Chapter 4: -66.1 million (-0.0661 billion)
-Corporate Tax Rate: 8.6% (part of Free Enterprise Bill above - remember other provisions).
-Personal Income Tax Rate: 5.8% ($61,650,000,000/year)
-Total: $61,583,900,000 or $61.5839 billion

Social Security Taxes: 
-Base: $20.1 billion
-Total: $20.1 billion

Ad-valorem Taxes:
-Base: $140.0 billion
-Excise Taxes/Tax-Alcoholic Beverage Sales/Southeast Alcohol Initiative, Section 8: $1.3127 billion ($1.00/proof liter or $0.385/gallon for beer, $0.909/gallon for wine, $3.31/gallon for spirits)
-Excise Taxes/Tax-Tobacco Products Sales/Southeast Tobacco Initiative, Section 6:  $0.04/cigarette ($6,034,000,000/year), $0.08/cigar ($80,000,000/year), $2.00/kg tobacco ($24,000,000/year)
-Excise Taxes/Tax-Marijuana Products Sales: $3.00/ounce ($48,000,000/year)
-Sales Taxes/Tax-Public Utilities Sale/Southeast Nuclear Energy Initiative, Chapter 4: 80% of standard electricity excise tax: $0
-Sales Taxes/Tax-Public Utilities Sale/Southeast Biomass Initiative, Section 3: 80% of standard electricity excise tax: $0
-Property Taxes/Tax-Property/Southeast Nuclear Energy Initiative, Chapter 4: n/a ($0)
-Transportation/Tax-Motor Fuel Sales/Transportation Commission Initiative, Chapter 3, Section 22: $0.08/liter ($17,284,230,161/year)
-Transportation/Tax-Motor Vehicle License/Fair Consequences Initiative, Section 3: $10,700,000/year
-License/Tax-Other License/Off-Shore Religious Organizations Initiative, Section 2: n/a ($0)
-Total: $147,265,400,000 or $147.2564 billion

Fees and Charges:
-Base: $42.7 billion
-Other/Charges-All Other/Pentagram Creation Act: $5,700,000/year
-Other/Charges-All Other/Safe Roads Initiative, Section 6: $44,400,000/year
-Total: $42,750,100,000 or $42.7501 billion

Business and Other Revenue:
-Base: $87.9 billion
-Puerto Rico: $17.28 billion
-Total: $105.18 billion

Gross Public Debt: $382,028,869,839 (assumes that Regional Government has not accumulated its own public debt)

Rainy Day Fund: $35 billion

Total Regional Revenue: $376,870,400,000 (does not include Gross Public Debt or Rainy Day Fund)

Balance: $17,723,900,000

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I personally think Yankee's template is better.  We need detail and the budget needs to record where these funds are going.  Medicare and Medicaid were consolidated this year.  That has to be on record.

I, personally, will be taking a short leave of absence, but I unequivocally support this template.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I now open a 48 vote on selecting a template for this committee. This vote will end early if one of the choices gains a majority.

Option 1: North Carolina Yankee Template [ ]

Option 2: PiT Template [ ]

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Option 1: North Carolina Yankee Template [1]

Option 2: PiT Template [ 2 ]