Biden's "anti-populist" triangulation NEW:Biden talks working w/ segregationists

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/23/joe-biden-president-2020-anti-populism-215638

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[Zioneer]

I mean, Biden folksy enough that he's going to be characterized as a populist anyway, just because of his rhetorical style and his background. So I suppose trying to triangulate away from that characterization is smart. Useless though, because he's Joe Biden.

[publicunofficial]

Hmmm, listen to what common people are demanding, and DON'T give it to them...

My god it's so crazy it just might fail horrifically.

[McGovernForPrez]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

[publicunofficial]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

This in some ways seems worse than Hillary's message.

I can see it now:

"Look, you folks don't REALLY hate corporations right?"
*Entire auditorium of people boos loudly*

[Bull Moose Base]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

What anti-populist tone?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Joe, you've missed your chance. Go home.

[publicunofficial]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

What anti-populist tone?

“Some want to single out big corporations for all the blame. … But consumers, workers, and leaders have the power to hold every corporation to a higher standard, not simply cast business as the enemy.”

[GlobeSoc]

Alienating major Clinton donors and the Sanders base. This messaging sounds terribad for the Democratic primary.

[dw93]

Reason number two that Biden shouldn't run (reason number one being his age).

[TheLeftwardTide]

Joe, you've missed your chance. Go home.

[Kingpoleon]

Good!

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

It's not a triangulation, he's always believed this and is just being more vocal about it now

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

What anti-populist tone?

“Some want to single out big corporations for all the blame. … But consumers, workers, and leaders have the power to hold every corporation to a higher standard, not simply cast business as the enemy.”

As a working poor, I can assuredly sympathize with the idea that one may not have the time, energy, or resources amidst a myriad of obligations to attempt to do more than seek simple survival, but within a certain segment of that population--larger than we might think--there does exist that freedom, and I think to some extent we have seen how corporations market products more differently and respond to consumer demand that voluntary change at some level can occur.

[Kingpoleon]

I feel like I should point out that universal basic income is about as stupid and inefficient as the current welfare system, as well as more expensive.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

I feel like I should point out that universal basic income is about as stupid and inefficient as the current welfare system, as well as more expensive.

The people are asking for a life they can afford. That isn't to much to ask is it?

[JA]

Hmmm, listen to what common people are demanding, and DON'T give it to them...

My god it's so crazy it just might fail horrifically.

[Kingpoleon]

I feel like I should point out that universal basic income is about as stupid and inefficient as the current welfare system, as well as more expensive.

The people are asking for a life they can afford. That isn't to much to ask is it?

Why would we give $20,000 to a homeless man and $20,000 to a millionaire?

[Rookie Yinzer]

UBI IS problematic and will be met with heavy resistance. Some of these foreign posters clearly don't understand America's electorate.

People are not going to be on board with giving people money simply for existing.

[henster]

Why are people making a big deal out of his opposition to UBI? There is no credible proposal in Congress for it or any progressive groups, not even Sanders/Warren has a bill.

[Adam Griffin]

He's not inherently wrong about UBI, which has been pushed disproportionately by Silicon Valley solely because it benefits them.

[PragmaticPopulist]

This is what I like about Biden; he doesn't promise unrealistic things, but explains realistic solutions in a way that doesn't sound boring and/or condescending to the working class.

I'd vote for him in a primary, but I think he'd be too old to be a serious candidate.

[Chief Justice Keef]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

This in some ways seems worse than Hillary's message.

I can see it now:

"Look, you folks don't REALLY hate corporations right?"
*Entire auditorium of people boos loudly*

[JA]

I'm of mixed feelings here. I like that he attacks Silicon Valley executives and UBI, because they suck. On the other hand, I don't like his overall anti-populist tone. Seems like the same type of tone Hillary used in the general.

This in some ways seems worse than Hillary's message.

I can see it now:

"Look, you folks don't REALLY hate corporations right?"
*Entire auditorium of people boos loudly*

[White Trash]

I'm glad that the Democratic Party is finally tackling the biggest issue of Clinton's campaign, not being tone deaf enough.