Opinion of the Graham-Cassidy ObamaCare Replacement Plan
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 23, 2024, 01:25:47 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Opinion of the Graham-Cassidy ObamaCare Replacement Plan
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: ...
#1
FP
#2
HP
#3
Undecided
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results


Author Topic: Opinion of the Graham-Cassidy ObamaCare Replacement Plan  (Read 1208 times)
Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
Dwarven Dragon
Atlas Politician
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,884
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -0.52

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: September 17, 2017, 11:29:22 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/cassidy-graham-explainer/?utm_term=.5c29af450623

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/09/17/take-two-inside-bill-cassidys-plan-to-replace-obamacare/#44de81401181

Note that the CBO will probably not release a score on the bill until next week, if that's what you're basing your opinion on.
Logged
7,052,770
Harry
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,575
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2017, 08:24:16 AM »

Anything that repeals the individual mandate and lets states cancel essential health benefits or allow discrimination on preexisting conditions is automatically horrible.
Logged
BudgieForce
superbudgie1582
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,298


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 08:32:36 AM »

Im torn. On one end, it would allow blue states to essentially make there own single payer options. On the other hand, people in red states get effed.
Logged
Young Conservative
youngconservative
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,031
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2017, 08:47:18 AM »

Im torn. On one end, it would allow blue states to essentially make there own single payer options. On the other hand, people in red states get effed.
Most blue states would go miserably bankrupt if they attempted universal healthcare.
Logged
mvd10
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,709


Political Matrix
E: 2.58, S: -2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2017, 08:49:29 AM »

Im torn. On one end, it would allow blue states to essentially make there own single payer options. On the other hand, people in red states get effed.

Red states would get more money though. Graham-Cassidy would basically transfer money from blue states to red states.
Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,891
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2017, 08:51:45 AM »

Repeal & Replace of Obamacare is always HP as long as its not single-payer.
Logged
mvd10
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,709


Political Matrix
E: 2.58, S: -2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2017, 08:53:10 AM »

Repeal & Replace of Obamacare is always HP as long as its not single-payer.

What about non single-payer universal healthcare Cry?
Logged
7,052,770
Harry
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,575
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2017, 09:27:44 AM »

Im torn. On one end, it would allow blue states to essentially make there own single payer options. On the other hand, people in red states get effed.

Red states would get more money though. Graham-Cassidy would basically transfer money from blue states to red states.

No, they would have the opportunity for more money. As we've seen in the Medicaid Expansion states, Republican legislatures don't want free no strings federal government money if it's for health care for the poor.
Logged
Kingpoleon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,144
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2017, 04:59:25 PM »

Repeal & Replace of Obamacare is always HP as long as its not single-payer.

What about non single-payer universal healthcare Cry?

Such as Wyden-Bennett?
Logged
Santander
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,019
United Kingdom


Political Matrix
E: 4.00, S: 2.61


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2017, 07:18:23 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2017, 09:56:50 PM by Santander »

It'll only speed us up to a fully universal system so I'm okay with it
Heighten the contradictions always works, right?

If some states had single-payer healthcare and others did not, then sick people from red states could just freeload by moving to California when they got sick instead of the status quo where they just go to the emergency room or buy insurance when they're sick and pay the paltry fine when they're healthy.
Logged
tallguy23
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,288
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2017, 08:40:18 PM »

Im torn. On one end, it would allow blue states to essentially make there own single payer options. On the other hand, people in red states get effed.

Except this takes money from big blue states and gives it to small red states. It's BS.
Logged
Koharu
jphp
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,644
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.35

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2017, 08:45:36 PM »

Anything that repeals the individual mandate and lets states cancel essential health benefits or allow discrimination on preexisting conditions is automatically horrible.

Yep. I'm really worried about this bill, though. I'm going to be contacting RoJo, but he never listens to me anyway.
Logged
7,052,770
Harry
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,575
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2017, 09:35:40 PM »

It'll only speed us up to a fully universal system so I'm okay with it
Heighten the contradictions always works.

If some states had single-payer healthcare and others did not, then sick people from red states could just freeload by moving to California when they got sick instead of the status quo where they just go to the emergency room or buy insurance when they're sick and pay the paltry fine when they're healthy.

I didn't mean it at the state level. If this bill passes, it basically throws 30 million people off of health care and increases the cost of everyone else's insurance. I don't know how Republicans can expect to get away with what will so obviously have real life implications for the majority of Americans.

They'll blame it on Obama and their loyal voters will believe them.
Logged
Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
Dwarven Dragon
Atlas Politician
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,884
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -0.52

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2017, 01:13:11 AM »

As the CBO has indicated that it will not be able to release a full score on the bill, it is impossible to precisely gauge its effects on the american people, and therefore I must oppose it.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.045 seconds with 13 queries.