Hillary calls out sexist "Berniebros" & says she was forced to not attack Bernie

[Shadows]

"Some of his supporters, the so-called Bernie Bros, took to harassing my supporters online. It got ugly and more than a little sexist," she wrote.

Clinton wrote that President Barack Obama counseled her to "grit my teeth and lay off Bernie as much as I could," according to the excerpts. That strategy, Clinton wrote, made her feel she was "in a straitjacket."She noted that Jake Sullivan, her top policy aide, told her that Sanders' campaign strategy reminded him of a scene from the movie "There's Something About Mary," where a hitchhiker says he has a plan to roll out seven-minute abs to top the famous eight-minute abs."Why, why not six-minutes abs?" Ben Stiller's character asks.

Clinton wrote: "That's what it was like in policy debates with Bernie. We would promise a bold infrastructure investment plan or an ambitious new apprenticeship program for young people, and then Bernie would announce basically the same thing, but bigger. On issue after issue, it was like he kept promising four-minute abs, or even no-minutes abs. Magic abs!"

https://twitter.com/HillaryWarnedUs/status/904815957654298625/photo/1

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-what-happened/index.html

No wonder she feels happy in the mud slinging gutter level debate that she had with Trump & even Obama in 2008. Apparently Obama & her team asked her not to attack Bernie as she needed his supporters & she felt handicapped & in a straight-jacket.

Which policy did Bernie borrow from Hillary? 1T $ Infra, 15$ Min wage, Carbon Tax, Free Tuition in college or single payer - All policies he has been advocating for years. She just keeps lying & lying.

[DrScholl]

Hillary Clinton really triggers Sanders supporters. Sanders needs to retire and that is all there is to it. At 80, he's not going to get the Democratic nomination.

[heatcharger]

she underperformed both Senate races by a factor of 4%

Is this actually a talking point that people use?

[TDAS04]

I like Sanders himself, but these Bernie bros are Massive HP. 

[President Johnson]

I'm not fan of most Berniebros and Bernie himself, but Hillary is whiny. It's everybody's fault that she lost except her own. As much as I despise Trump, I'm glad Democrats have a better opportunity in 2020 for victory and a fine candidate.

[7,052,770]

Oh look another dumb thread from our resident Russian bot who, like our president, is still obsessed with Hillary all these months later.

[Beet]

I like Sanders himself, but these Bernie bros are Massive HP. 

[ProgressiveCanadian]

I like Sanders himself, but these Bernie bros are Massive HP. 

It's well known that the Bernie Bro phenomenon was made up by the many trolls Clinton bought during the primary. BS she was forced not to attack him.

[BudgieForce]

Why do you keep making these threads?

[Chief Justice Keef]

I like Sanders himself, but these Bernie bros are Massive HP. 

The stereotypical "Bernie Bro" perpetuated by the Clinton campaign doesn't exist.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

There should just be a megathread dedicated to Hillary's new book

[Yank2133]

A lot of Sanders supporters don't realize how easy Clinton was on him. There was a ton of stuff out there that could have buried Bernie.

If she had treated him the same way she treated Obama in 2008 during the primary, Bernie would be politically irrelevant at the moment.

[uti2]

If only last year's primary was as kind and cordial as 2008's primary was.

Sure, and that strategy did work. If you read Game Change, Hillary's core advisers wanted her to appease Obama, Bill wanted her to eviscerate Obama. After the initial losses, Hillary started listening to Bill and started to recover some ground vs. Obama. In the context of the OP, she was going against her instincts by listening to Obama's advice on the issue.

[uti2]

A lot of Sanders supporters don't realize how easy Clinton was on him. There was a ton of stuff out there that could have buried Bernie.

If she had treated him the same way she treated Obama in 2008 during the primary, Bernie would be politically irrelevant at the moment.

There is an argument to be made that Trump's presence in the race inflated Sanders' candidacy. Without Trump in the race, Sanders would be the only candidate devoutly opposed to the TPP, and Clinton would at least be feigning opposition.  Trump & Sanders often dovetailed on similar issues in rhetoric - Trade, Wall Street, etc. This gave more media attention to these issues as a result of Trump.

If you look at the 1912 election - Eugene Debs had his numbers inflated in the context of Roosevelt's run and gave him similar media attention.

Obama's team also expected Sanders to have gone away much sooner:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sanders-reshapes-obamas-2016-plans-221560

[Mr. Smith]

A lot of Sanders Clinton supporters don't realize how easy Clinton Sanders was on himher . There was a ton of stuff out there that could have buried (and DID come GE) Bernie Hillary.

If she Bernie had treated himher the same way she Obama treated Obama her in 2008 during the primary, Bernie Hillary would be politically irrelevant at the moment have faded into political irrelevancy much earlier.

[HisGrace]

This isn't a surprise. I noted during the primary that he could attack her as much as he wanted but she couldn't say anything about him or the Bernie Bros. would cry, take their ball and go home in the general (which a fair amount of them did anyway).

[GoldenMainer]

A lot of Sanders supporters don't realize how easy Clinton was on him. There was a ton of stuff out there that could have buried Bernie.

If she had treated him the same way she treated Obama in 2008 during the primary, Bernie would be politically irrelevant at the moment.

And on the same hand, a lot of Clinton supporters don't realize how easy Bernie was on Hillary. He took the email issue off the table early on when any other skilled politician would have hammered her on that. I mean, she was under investigation while running and Bernie never went after her on that. There was a ton of stuff that could have buried Hillary (her hawkish foreign policy, fracking, bankruptcy bill that Warren criticized her on). Even though I like Bernie, he's not skilled at getting down in the mud and slinging. Barack attacked Hillary much worse than Bernie did (Board of Wal Mart ring a bell?). She was damaged goods long before Bernie and any sort of arguments in the 2016 primary (which were largely issue focused) pale in comparison to the years worth of damage done on her character by other people. Democrats simply chose the wrong person at the wrong time.

[elcorazon]

Hillary failed with universal health care, she underperformed both Senate races by a factor of 4%, she failed in 2008, she failed as SoS, she failed in 2016. Hillary's problem is that she feels owed the presidency for having put up with her husbands many indescretions (some consensus, some not) and that the public owes her an office somewhere at all times as if the world would somehow be disgraced of a job wasn't found for Hillary Clinton. She and her husband selfishly destroyed and hollowed out the Democratic party but tossing out it's progressive principles to turn it into a money making venture for her and her husband.

so many misogynists

[Yank2133]

A lot of Sanders Clinton supporters don't realize how easy Clinton Sanders was on himher . There was a ton of stuff out there that could have buried (and DID come GE) Bernie Hillary.

If she Bernie had treated himher the same way she Obama treated Obama her in 2008 during the primary, Bernie Hillary would be politically irrelevant at the moment have faded into political irrelevancy much earlier.

This makes zero sense since Bernie did treat her like she treated Obama in 2008.

[Yank2133]

A lot of Sanders supporters don't realize how easy Clinton was on him. There was a ton of stuff out there that could have buried Bernie.

If she had treated him the same way she treated Obama in 2008 during the primary, Bernie would be politically irrelevant at the moment.

And on the same hand, a lot of Clinton supporters don't realize how easy Bernie was on Hillary. He took the email issue off the table early on when any other skilled politician would have hammered her on that. I mean, she was under investigation while running and Bernie never went after her on that. There was a ton of stuff that could have buried Hillary (her hawkish foreign policy, fracking, bankruptcy bill that Warren criticized her on). Even though I like Bernie, he's not skilled at getting down in the mud and slinging. Barack attacked Hillary much worse than Bernie did (Board of Wal Mart ring a bell?). She was damaged goods long before Bernie and any sort of arguments in the 2016 primary (which were largely issue focused) pale in comparison to the years worth of damage done on her character by other people. Democrats simply chose the wrong person at the wrong time.

Bernie wasn't easy on her.

He literally questioned her integrity and played up one of the most devastating right wing caricatures of her (corruption). On top of that he stayed in the race when it was obvious he was done after Super Tuesday.

Clinton is responsible for her own defeat. But Sanders did significant, unnecessary damage to her.

[Adam Griffin]

I was honestly shocked at how easy Clinton was on Sanders during the primary. Those of us who remember 2008 - or who have merely followed the Clintons throughout their political years - know that their style is much more direct, confrontational and aggressive than what we saw last year. Anybody willing to be objective about it knows that Hillary never took the kid gloves off during the primary.

If things had suddenly became as competitive during the primary as they were in 2008, I think things would have changed. Ultimately, Clinton faced a dilemma:

Would she have rather won the primary by 20 points or more, eviscerating Bernie, truly dragging him through the mud and ultimately pissing off millions of Democratic voters over her treatment of him? Or, would she have rather won the primary by a smaller margin, keep the attacks as subdued as possible, and hope that the divides heal during the general campaign because she didn't poke the tiger?

Ultimately, she chose the latter (in part because I'm sure she never felt she was in any danger of losing the primary): unfortunately for her, she underestimated the extent of the resistance to her and/or the sensitivity of certain Bernie voters to what they incorrectly claimed were "nasty attacks" or whatever.

[RINO Tom]

Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders really triggers Sanders Hillary supporters. Sanders Clinton needs to retire and that is all there is to it. At 80 As an 0-for-2 on trying to become President, he's she's not going to get the Democratic nomination. play a part in the future of the Democratic Party.

FTFY.  Both sides are equally strange and obsessive, so that was a very easy edit.

[JA]

I like Sanders himself, but these Bernie bros are Massive HP. 

The stereotypical "Bernie Bro" perpetuated by the Clinton campaign doesn't exist.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

When do we get to hear about the part of the book where Hillary stops blaming everyone else for her screw-ups and takes responsibility for being one of the weakest Democratic nominees in recent memory as well as running such a horrible campaign that she lost to a serial sexual predator, traitor, racist, anti-Semitic, kleptocratic man-child?

[7,052,770]

When do we get to hear about the part of the book where Hillary stops blaming everyone else for her screw-ups and takes responsibility for being one of the weakest Democratic nominees in recent memory as well as running such a horrible campaign that she lost to a serial sexual predator, traitor, racist, anti-Semitic, kleptocratic man-child?

She couldn't follow voters in the ballot box and force them to vote her. Blame the voters, not the candidate who told them the truth they didn't accept.