Trump's response to Harvey vs. Bush's response to Katrina
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« on: September 01, 2017, 08:10:20 PM »

It's inevitable that this comparison would come up. Who did/is doing worse?
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2017, 10:19:24 PM »

Trumps response to Harvey was worse.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2017, 10:32:25 PM »

Neither since it was not Bush's fault that the levees failed .
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2017, 10:38:31 PM »

The full extent of Trump's response isn't there yet, but so far, it's been pretty bad.

But Bush Jr really f%^&ed up truly. And didn't he give more support to Haley Barbour over Kathleen Blanco just because of partisan affiliation?

Sorry, but Bush Jr for now.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2017, 10:46:55 PM »

Trump's response has been below average, Bush's was terrible. Bush.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2017, 11:08:22 PM »

We can't say for sure yet, but I can't imagine Trump doing worse than Bush in this arena.

Well, I can imagine it, but I assume FEMA can apply some lessons learned.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2017, 11:35:46 PM »



Again how were the Leeves failing Bush's fault
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2017, 11:44:25 PM »

Katrina was much the fault of a compliancy surrounding big storms than anything Bush may had did. A Katrina some day was inevitable.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2017, 11:48:09 PM »

That being said Bush certainly messed up some things pretty badly, for sure.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2017, 11:49:14 PM »


They weren't, but he didn't have to sit on his hands either. Especially not after all the "compassionate conservatism"

At least Trump said "good luck" off the bat, which at least means there's a warning of incompetence and hand-sitting to come.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2017, 11:50:31 PM »
« Edited: September 01, 2017, 11:52:29 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Katrina was much the fault of a compliancy surrounding big storms than anything Bush may had did. A Katrina some day was inevitable.

It was common knowledge that New Orleans was a sitting duck for a major Hurricane before Katrina. I remember that New Orleans dodged a bullet with Hurricane Ivan in 2004. Lets not try to re-write history like the dumbasses who claim that only Christopher Columbus knew the world was round.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2017, 12:08:03 AM »
« Edited: September 02, 2017, 12:12:32 AM by Old School Republican »


Bush nominated Michael Brown to run FEMA. Brown didn't believe FEMA should exist and called it a un-necessary and wasteful gubmint program during his confirmation hearing. Before joining the Bush administration, Brown was the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association where among one of his jobs was to measure horse penises.

True to the Republicans failed governing philosophy of nominating unqualified hacks to government programs they dont believe should exist...Brown predictably botched the hurricane Katrina response while the GOP, of course, predictably blamed the local officials (especially the black ones).

I know it's hard to Republicans to accept responsibility since they're not too big on personal responsibility but Bush failed at everything, yet unlike Trump, Bush's failures were on a spectacular level that still haunts us to this day.


Um it is the local and states responsibility to safely evacuate people before a storm hits , maintain its infrastructure and much more . The reason Harvey response has been better than Katrina's is cause it's local and state officials responded in a better way.


Lastly what  action could Bush have taken what could have lessened the affects of Katrina ?
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2017, 12:19:25 AM »

Katrina was much the fault of a compliancy surrounding big storms than anything Bush may had did. A Katrina some day was inevitable.

It was common knowledge that New Orleans was a sitting duck for a major Hurricane before Katrina. I remember that New Orleans dodged a bullet with Hurricane Ivan in 2004. Lets not try to re-write history like the dumbasses who claim that only Christopher Columbus knew the world was round.
the death tolls Katrina recorded were shocking to most people. There is one thing to know New Orleans might suffer if hit by a hurricane - it was quite another to see it actually happen.
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2017, 01:20:15 AM »


Bush nominated Michael Brown to run FEMA. Brown didn't believe FEMA should exist and called it a un-necessary and wasteful gubmint program during his confirmation hearing. Before joining the Bush administration, Brown was the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association where among one of his jobs was to measure horse penises.

True to the Republicans failed governing philosophy of nominating unqualified hacks to government programs they dont believe should exist...Brown predictably botched the hurricane Katrina response while the GOP, of course, predictably blamed the local officials (especially the black ones).

I know it's hard to Republicans to accept responsibility since they're not too big on personal responsibility but Bush failed at everything, yet unlike Trump, Bush's failures were on a spectacular level that still haunts us to this day.


Um it is the local and states responsibility to safely evacuate people before a storm hits , maintain its infrastructure and much more . The reason Harvey response has been better than Katrina's is cause it's local and state officials responded in a better way.


Lastly what  action could Bush have taken what could have lessened the affects of Katrina ?


Not have gotten elected.

Ok tell me what would a President Kerry have done what could have lessened the affects of Katrina
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2017, 01:52:28 AM »

It's easy to break down.

President Trump could not have responded in more tone deaf way personally, but in terms of administrative efforts and others, it's more like a D- than an F.

President Bush could not have butchered Katrina more, and THEN went on to praise the Fema Director who butchered the job.

Bush. did. worse.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2017, 02:15:57 AM »

Katrina was much the fault of a compliancy surrounding big storms than anything Bush may had did. A Katrina some day was inevitable.

It was common knowledge that New Orleans was a sitting duck for a major Hurricane before Katrina. I remember that New Orleans dodged a bullet with Hurricane Ivan in 2004. Lets not try to re-write history like the dumbasses who claim that only Christopher Columbus knew the world was round.
the death tolls Katrina recorded were shocking to most people. There is one thing to know New Orleans might suffer if hit by a hurricane - it was quite another to see it actually happen.

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Katrina wasn't the worst case scenario for New Orleans.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2017, 02:27:28 AM »
« Edited: September 02, 2017, 02:33:52 AM by Southern Speaker TimTurner »

Katrina was much the fault of a compliancy surrounding big storms than anything Bush may had did. A Katrina some day was inevitable.

It was common knowledge that New Orleans was a sitting duck for a major Hurricane before Katrina. I remember that New Orleans dodged a bullet with Hurricane Ivan in 2004. Lets not try to re-write history like the dumbasses who claim that only Christopher Columbus knew the world was round.
the death tolls Katrina recorded were shocking to most people. There is one thing to know New Orleans might suffer if hit by a hurricane - it was quite another to see it actually happen.

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Katrina wasn't the worst case scenario for New Orleans.
Yes, many people thought Ivan would be bad. My point still stands. If Ivan had been the most damaging it could possibly had been, the shock would simply have been bigger. A storm projected to be Category 4 or 5 hitting Miami would be scary, but it actually seeing all that damage occur, with all those destroyed homes, dead bodies, and debris, would have been outright horrific.
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2017, 03:47:42 AM »

It's easy to break down.

President Trump could not have responded in more tone deaf way personally, but in terms of administrative efforts and others, it's more like a D- than an F.

President Bush could not have butchered Katrina more, and THEN went on to praise the Fema Director who butchered the job.

Bush. did. worse.

Basically this.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2017, 10:12:56 AM »

Honestly, I don't remember Katrina well enough to recall how much Bush screwed it up, while  Harvey is going on right now, so I'm not sure I can answer this objectively.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2017, 12:55:21 PM »

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-response-to-hurricane-harvey-2017-8

The media isnt attacking Trump on this like they did to Bush(Which they shouldnt have).


I mean how can you blame an major natural disaster on the  president . There is no way any city can handle 50 inches of rain in less than a week , or deal with the aftermath of a hurricane with the city's levees failing along with the city already being below sea level.

 
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