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« on: September 01, 2017, 10:27:54 AM »
« edited: September 01, 2017, 10:32:51 AM by Helsinkian »

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2017, 10:31:53 AM »

If they're terrorizing people, they're engaging in terrorism. Antifa does just that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2017, 10:32:20 AM »

I wonder if Trump will bring back color-coded terrorism alerts for Antifa attacks
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2017, 10:35:20 AM »

Sounds right.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2017, 10:43:20 AM »

If they're terrorizing people, they're engaging in terrorism. Antifa does just that.
I guess you can't really argue with that...
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2017, 10:44:28 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2017, 10:52:23 AM »

     Hopefully this isn't just posturing and actually indicates that more will be done to counter Antifa's crimes. I saw recently that Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin also called for Antifa to be named a crime gang, which under California state law would impose stiffer penalties for criminal acts committed under the umbrella of Antifa.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2017, 11:00:47 AM »

Hmm..I haven't seen the Phoenix chapter engage in violence. Blanket classification is a bad thing.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2017, 11:01:52 AM »


Both sides do it.  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2017, 11:17:57 AM »

Reminder that AntiFa are just as bad as Neo Nazi's only if your only complaint with Neo Nazi's is that they're too rowdy.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2017, 11:27:05 AM »

But not Neo-Nazis and the Alt-Right? Priorities...
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2017, 11:36:31 AM »

Hey, Trump administration, your fascism is showing.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2017, 11:57:45 AM »

Awesome. Drop them down an elevator shaft.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2017, 12:13:53 PM »

I half-support the move, but:

a. They should also warn about white-supremacist terrorism, since we are inevitably likely to see more clashes between antifa and neo-nazis that cause chaos among decent citizens.

b. anti-fa is too vague of a term (they are not as centralized as the Weather Underground)
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2017, 01:54:40 PM »

I half-support the move, but:

a. They should also warn about white-supremacist terrorism, since we are inevitably likely to see more clashes between antifa and neo-nazis that cause chaos among decent citizens.

b. anti-fa is too vague of a term (they are not as centralized as the Weather Underground)
Actually labeling Antifa a terror "group" is objectively retarded. But the warning was appropriate.
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2017, 01:59:54 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2017, 02:01:32 PM »

I half-support the move, but:

a. They should also warn about white-supremacist terrorism, since we are inevitably likely to see more clashes between antifa and neo-nazis that cause chaos among decent citizens.

b. anti-fa is too vague of a term (they are not as centralized as the Weather Underground)

Yeah, I agree. I'd rather the authorities just confront them instead of letting them run amok. Also I hope fellow progressives stop romanticizing these anarchist tools. They may hate Trump too but seriously, antifa is just a snazzy rebrand by Black Bloc. They don't share liberal values.
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2017, 02:09:32 PM »

I half-support the move, but:

a. They should also warn about white-supremacist terrorism, since we are inevitably likely to see more clashes between antifa and neo-nazis that cause chaos among decent citizens.

b. anti-fa is too vague of a term (they are not as centralized as the Weather Underground)

Yeah, I agree. I'd rather the authorities just confront them instead of letting them run amok. Also I hope fellow progressives stop romanticizing these anarchist tools. They may hate Trump too but seriously, antifa is just a snazzy rebrand by Black Bloc. They don't share liberal values.
They're actually reenforcing Trump's position from what I can tell.
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2017, 03:26:23 PM »
« Edited: September 01, 2017, 03:28:45 PM by The Saint »

Hey, Trump administration, your fascism is showing.

This happened under Obama.

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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2017, 05:46:39 PM »

I half-support the move, but:

a. They should also warn about white-supremacist terrorism, since we are inevitably likely to see more clashes between antifa and neo-nazis that cause chaos among decent citizens.

b. anti-fa is too vague of a term (they are not as centralized as the Weather Underground)

Yeah, I agree. I'd rather the authorities just confront them instead of letting them run amok. Also I hope fellow progressives stop romanticizing these anarchist tools. They may hate Trump too but seriously, antifa is just a snazzy rebrand by Black Bloc. They don't share liberal values.
They're actually reenforcing Trump's position from what I can tell.

They help him politically on the margins, at least, if only as a diversion from his inability to properly condemn Nazis/KKK. I mean this sh**t has always gone on in Berkeley and other big West Coast cities but in the Age of Trump it all gets amplified
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2017, 05:59:26 PM »
« Edited: September 02, 2017, 01:08:19 AM by Senator PiT »

That's better than the Nasotollah!
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2017, 06:03:18 PM »

Awesome. Drop them down an elevator shaft.

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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2017, 06:10:11 PM »

Hey, Trump administration, your fascism is showing.

This happened under Obama.

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You (not you specifically, TheSaint) have to be a real dumbass to think it's only the government under leadership of Republicans that's trash.
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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2017, 06:48:31 PM »


Ah bad MemriTV translation memes! Love those
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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2017, 08:14:06 PM »

My position on Antifa is that the tankie and anarchist ones are HP, but the liberal and social democratic ones are FF. I guess I'll grant FF status to the ones slightly to the left of that/DSA types, as long as they are not of the "Stand with Maduro and the Bolivarian Revolution against US imperialism/Support Russia's struggle against NATO imperialism in Ukraine!" types.
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