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Question: Could Martha McSally become the establishment candidate?
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« Reply #400 on: October 24, 2017, 02:24:43 PM »

I never expected Flake to implode like that. Good riddance!

(Still think NV flips before AZ, though.)

Obviously NV flips before AZ. But in a year where they both will, does it matter?
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« Reply #401 on: October 24, 2017, 02:26:58 PM »

Martha McSally would be an obvious choice... but then that house race shifts more D.

Good luck to her winning a primary though
She is waiting for McCain to retire and call upon her to be his successor.

This is good news for Republicans since someone else is naturally going to hop in the race. This person will not be a conspiracy theorist and not be the most unpopular senator in the country, so they already start out better then either past candidate. Sinema's chances go down now that she probably won't be facing such a horrible opponent.

Your assuming Ward loses if shes not facing Flake. I dont think she loses to any establishment GOP.
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« Reply #402 on: October 24, 2017, 02:27:47 PM »

A senate race in AZ leaning D? You know what I smell coming on next year?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uysp-0E5wD8
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« Reply #403 on: October 24, 2017, 02:29:40 PM »

He sounds like he's tearing up in his speech.
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« Reply #404 on: October 24, 2017, 02:29:50 PM »

Tossup -> Lean D
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« Reply #405 on: October 24, 2017, 02:31:06 PM »

This is very clearly good for the Republicans. Flake was going to lose his primary and Ward was going to get Mourdock'd.

Now, any of McSally, Gosar, Schweikert, or Franks can jump in and handle a joke candidate like Ward.
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« Reply #406 on: October 24, 2017, 02:33:11 PM »

This is very clearly good for the Republicans. Flake was going to lose his primary and Ward was going to get Mourdock'd.

Now, any of McSally, Gosar, Schweikert, or Franks can jump in and handle a joke candidate like Ward.

Ward is stronger in the primary than you think. 
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« Reply #407 on: October 24, 2017, 02:33:47 PM »

I guess that clears the way for Ward.....Senator Sinema here we come!!!! (Please Arizona, for the love of God, this isn't a hard choice)
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« Reply #408 on: October 24, 2017, 02:33:59 PM »

Senator DeWit please.
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« Reply #409 on: October 24, 2017, 02:34:02 PM »

This is very clearly good for the Republicans. Flake was going to lose his primary and Ward was going to get Mourdock'd.

Now, any of McSally, Gosar, Schweikert, or Franks can jump in and handle a joke candidate like Ward.

Are these three not joke candidates?
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« Reply #410 on: October 24, 2017, 02:34:11 PM »

I'm finding it hilarious that Republicans on here are trying to spin this as a positive news story for them....lol.
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« Reply #411 on: October 24, 2017, 02:34:18 PM »

GOOD!

Bye bye Flake.

We need to Senators who want to MAGA.

60+ seats in 2018 is possible.
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« Reply #412 on: October 24, 2017, 02:34:42 PM »

I'm finding it hilarious that Republicans on here are trying to spin this as a positive news story for them....lol.

Are you kidding me? This is the best news I've heard all week!
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« Reply #413 on: October 24, 2017, 02:35:45 PM »

If Flake, the Republican incumbent Senator resigning is considered good for the GOP, then that might just go to show how bad their prospects in Arizona were looking already. An open seat in a competitive state in what is almost surely going to be a bad year for them is the last thing Republicans should want.
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« Reply #414 on: October 24, 2017, 02:36:06 PM »
« Edited: October 24, 2017, 02:36:59 PM by Virginia »

This is very clearly good for the Republicans. Flake was going to lose his primary and Ward was going to get Mourdock'd.

Now, any of McSally, Gosar, Schweikert, or Franks can jump in and handle a joke candidate like Ward.

Franks is an idiot with the personality of a sapient trout and Gosar and Schweikert are legitimately just as insane as Ward.
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« Reply #415 on: October 24, 2017, 02:37:11 PM »

Not surprised. Flake looked like he was about to be the next Richard Luger. I don't think this changes any of the dynamics though. Ward shouldn't be underestimated in the primary.
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« Reply #416 on: October 24, 2017, 02:37:24 PM »

Let's keep things friendly please.
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« Reply #417 on: October 24, 2017, 02:38:06 PM »

If Flake, the Republican incumbent Senator resigning is considered good for the GOP, then that might just go to show how bad their prospects in Arizona were looking already. An open seat in a competitive state in what is almost surely going to be a bad year for them is the last thing Republicans should want.

Flake is a disaster.

This is a good sign for 2018 because now Trump can get people to push his agenda.

The GOP will be fine in Arizona - although it will be tougher, but worth it.
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« Reply #418 on: October 24, 2017, 02:38:26 PM »
« Edited: October 24, 2017, 02:39:55 PM by Virginia »

GOOD!

Bye bye Flake.

We need to Senators who want to MAGA.

60+ seats in 2018 is possible.

I've always heard terrible things about you, I hoped they were false and you weren't completely embarrassing the party (as much as it isn't already embarrassed by that Orange Moron we call President), I am sad to see that I am completely wrong.  
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« Reply #419 on: October 24, 2017, 02:38:46 PM »

Flake's retirement also kills Ward's chances. She is no Roy Moore, who had built deep support among GOP voters in his state over the years. In AZ, an establishment R with Trump's support will easily beat Ward.
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« Reply #420 on: October 24, 2017, 02:39:12 PM »

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« Reply #421 on: October 24, 2017, 02:39:37 PM »

Martha McSally would be an obvious choice... but then that house race shifts more D.

Good luck to her winning a primary though
She is waiting for McCain to retire and call upon her to be his successor.

This is good news for Republicans since someone else is naturally going to hop in the race. This person will not be a conspiracy theorist and not be the most unpopular senator in the country, so they already start out better then either past candidate. Sinema's chances go down now that she probably won't be facing such a horrible opponent.

Your assuming Ward loses if shes not facing Flake. I dont think she loses to any establishment GOP.

It doesn't need to be an establishment, chances are it will be someone more to the right like Brewer or Schweikert. Wards support was always built upon two things: Trump support and Anti-Washingtonism. With flake out, she no longer can run against "Washington Insiders." A challenger closer to Trump will easily obtain his support, since Ward's support for the White House was built on her simply not being Flake/McCain. The only way Ward wins in a hypothetical primary is if she has built enough of a brand in these early months that she has enough momentum to carry her into the general election.
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« Reply #422 on: October 24, 2017, 02:40:03 PM »


Alright, fair enough. I apologize to vagina-havers everywhere.
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« Reply #423 on: October 24, 2017, 02:40:08 PM »

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« Reply #424 on: October 24, 2017, 02:40:14 PM »

GOOD!

Bye bye Flake.

We need to Senators who want to MAGA.

60+ seats in 2018 is possible.

I've always heard terrible things about you, I hoped they were false and you weren't completely embarrassing the party (as much as it isn't already embarrassed by that Orange Moron we call President), I am sad to see that I am completely wrong.  
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