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« Reply #150 on: July 11, 2017, 10:04:31 AM »
Quote from: JohnCA246 on July 11, 2017, 09:59:07 AM
So politics and whether the lawyer was actually a representative of the Russian government aside, is it illegal to work with a foreign government on a campaign if no favors are exchanged? Is it illegal to receive information from a foreign government for a campaign?

If all the people pretending to be outraged over Don Jr's 'treason' over trying to get oppo research from a foreign national were sincere in their beliefs they'd be outraged at Hillary Clinton working with the Ukrainian government in the course of the campaign. Instead they pretend 'that's different because muh reasons'
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« Reply #151 on: July 11, 2017, 10:05:53 AM »
Quote from: EnglishPete on July 11, 2017, 10:04:31 AM
Quote from: JohnCA246 on July 11, 2017, 09:59:07 AM
So politics and whether the lawyer was actually a representative of the Russian government aside, is it illegal to work with a foreign government on a campaign if no favors are exchanged? Is it illegal to receive information from a foreign government for a campaign?

If all the people pretending to be outraged over Don Jr's 'treason' over trying to get oppo research from a foreign national were sincere in their beliefs they'd be outraged at Hillary Clinton working with the Ukrainian government in the course of the campaign. Instead they pretend 'that's different because muh reasons'

What would you say if it was Germany in 1936 vs Poland or Czechoslovakia?
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« Reply #152 on: July 11, 2017, 10:06:58 AM »
Quote from: Donald Grumps on July 11, 2017, 08:59:10 AM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on July 11, 2017, 08:58:16 AM
Schiff says that the House Intel committee has much more info on the Russia investigation that has not been made public: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/341417-top-intel-dem-warns-trump-jr-we-have-much-more-intel-than-what-public-knows

2020 candidate Schiff will have it leaked.  No worries.

I'm shocked. Democratic pol who, more than any other, has spent months ramping this Russia conspiracy theory is ramping the Russia conspiracy theory. Clearly an important development.
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« Reply #153 on: July 11, 2017, 10:10:56 AM »
Quote from: Santander on July 11, 2017, 08:53:09 AM
Democrats say they want to "follow the facts wherever they lead". That's complete BS. They already came up with the conclusion that Trump is a traitor and they have been trying to make the facts fit their narrative.

Yes, because that's the correct conclusion, and the facts we have at hand can only point in that direction. As conservatives are fond of saying, facts don't care about your feelings.
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« Reply #154 on: July 11, 2017, 10:13:35 AM »
« Edited: July 11, 2017, 10:16:09 AM by Comrade Funk »
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html

They have the*gasp* emails
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« Reply #155 on: July 11, 2017, 10:17:05 AM »
Trump Jr. is posting the entire email chain on Twitter.  These don't look too good for him IMO.  What is he thinking?

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166
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« Reply #156 on: July 11, 2017, 10:17:29 AM »
This cannot be real. It has to have been a set up.
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« Reply #157 on: July 11, 2017, 10:19:06 AM »
Oh I am just loving these reactions. 
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« Reply #158 on: July 11, 2017, 10:19:43 AM »
"A Russian government attorney"

"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump"

Wow, this looks bad.
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« Reply #159 on: July 11, 2017, 10:21:17 AM »
« Edited: July 11, 2017, 10:23:47 AM by ApatheticAustrian »
We know that the Trumps are - regarding politics - amateurs at best.
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« Reply #160 on: July 11, 2017, 10:22:20 AM »
Trump Jr. just confirmed he solicited a contribution from a foreign entity. He admitted it. Wtf is he doing and where is his lawyer?
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« Reply #161 on: July 11, 2017, 10:23:21 AM »
I like how the NYT got the emails and made a story on them, and Junior is all "here's the email, I'm transparent!!" like no, you got caught with your pants off and you're looking desperate trying to get ahead of this story my good dude.
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« Reply #162 on: July 11, 2017, 10:24:34 AM »
Quote from: Castro on July 11, 2017, 10:22:20 AM
Trump Jr. just confirmed he solicited a contribution from a foreign entity. He admitted it. Wtf is he doing and where is his lawyer?

On the window ledge outside his office, probably.
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« Reply #163 on: July 11, 2017, 10:25:03 AM »
Trump Jr. is the Gob Bluth of politics
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« Reply #164 on: July 11, 2017, 10:25:46 AM »
Got to love how every time Pete or grumps spam this thread the updates just get worse
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« Reply #165 on: July 11, 2017, 10:26:11 AM »
It will always go back to emails.

I hate that god loves irony, but I will admit this is such a rich and funny episode.
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« Reply #166 on: July 11, 2017, 10:26:28 AM »
Quote from: Power to the Pe p e! on July 11, 2017, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: EnglishPete on July 11, 2017, 10:04:31 AM
Quote from: JohnCA246 on July 11, 2017, 09:59:07 AM
So politics and whether the lawyer was actually a representative of the Russian government aside, is it illegal to work with a foreign government on a campaign if no favors are exchanged? Is it illegal to receive information from a foreign government for a campaign?

If all the people pretending to be outraged over Don Jr's 'treason' over trying to get oppo research from a foreign national were sincere in their beliefs they'd be outraged at Hillary Clinton working with the Ukrainian government in the course of the campaign. Instead they pretend 'that's different because muh reasons'

What would you say if it was Germany in 1936 vs Poland or Czechoslovakia?

That's really all in the eye of the beholder and irrelevant in a legal sense
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« Reply #167 on: July 11, 2017, 10:27:15 AM »
Quote from: Castro on July 11, 2017, 10:22:20 AM
Trump Jr. just confirmed he solicited a contribution from a foreign entity. He admitted it. Wtf is he doing and where is his lawyer?

Oppo research info isn't a 'contribution', if it was you'd be seeing outrage over the Clinton campaign working with the Ukrainians. Instead the reaction to that is tumbleweed.
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« Reply #168 on: July 11, 2017, 10:27:31 AM »
Quote from: Castro on July 11, 2017, 10:22:20 AM
Trump Jr. just confirmed he solicited a contribution from a foreign entity. He admitted it. Wtf is he doing and where is his lawyer?



Confirmed from an NYT source: "We were preparing to publish" story -- Don Jr. camp "asked for more time" to comment "and then pre-empted us"
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/884793492098232320
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« Reply #169 on: July 11, 2017, 10:28:59 AM »
holy crap


Entire chain – subj: "Russia - Clinton" & citing Kremlin involvement – is fwded to Kushner & Manafort before meeting
https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/884794825702297605
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« Reply #170 on: July 11, 2017, 10:29:20 AM »
Hahahaha, wtf.
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« Reply #171 on: July 11, 2017, 10:30:21 AM »

Of course its a set up. You wouldn't put 'this is part of the Russian government's support for Mr Trump' if it really was.
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« Reply #172 on: July 11, 2017, 10:30:30 AM »
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« Reply #173 on: July 11, 2017, 10:32:15 AM »
have the russians set up the trumps or were the trumps just stupid beyond belief?
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« Reply #174 on: July 11, 2017, 10:33:01 AM »
This is so rich it must be fattening.
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