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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2017, 12:25:53 PM »

....the Democrats aren't attacking the Republicans over healthcare? What the f[inks] are you talking about?
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2017, 03:40:10 PM »

HOLY follow up story!

"Trump's Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton"

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This could be the thing that gets them.

https://nyti.ms/2uZzquG

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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2017, 03:49:46 PM »

....the Democrats aren't attacking the Republicans over healthcare? What the f[inks] are you talking about?

We may have even bigger concerns -- like the integrity of the entire political system.

Except for the absence of terror, anti-capitalist rhetoric, or a foreign military presence this resembles what went on in several countries in central and Balkan Europe between 1945 and 1948. 
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2017, 03:58:59 PM »

Also from this new article, Trump Jr. has changed his story from yesterday about the meeting's contents:

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2017, 04:09:44 PM »

I await McCain and this forum's Trumpists expressing concern and sorrow and indignation but not actually doing anything.
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2017, 04:25:33 PM »

Also from this new article, Trump Jr. has changed his story from yesterday about the meeting's contents:

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It's not the first time he's changed his story:

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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2017, 04:38:33 PM »

The meeting was only about "the adoption of Russian children," MY ASS !
trump jr must think of us as idiots, if he thinks we are going to swallow that not only he, but also Kushner and Manafort would want to attend a meeting to discuss "adoptions."
LOL.
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2017, 04:39:32 PM »


One of the most suspicious things about Trump's behavior re: the Russia story is that he doesn't own it like all of his other scandals. Mexico sending rapists? I'm just telling it like it is! Bragging about sexual assault? It's just locker room talk! Firing Comey? The guy's a nut job! Improper relations with the Russian government? Don't know what you're talking about - didn't happen. If Trump was the chess master his supporters portray him as, he'd have been out in front of this story long ago, decrying how stupid the laws must be that important businessmen running for president can't collude with foreign governments, or saying that he and Putin are working on some super secret plan to kill all terrorists and bring back coal, or something, and anyone who questions their motives is an ISIS operative.

Or perhaps that IS his chessmastery. Why get in front and start an argument when you can just deny and people believe? Why use complicated moves and tactics if the simpler move is less expected?

Was it not Karl Rove's strategy with Bush Jr to do this?
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2017, 04:43:34 PM »

If this report is true, about Trump Jr. meeting with that Russian lady to find dirt on Hillary Clinton, then it is what it is. It's politics. Yes, the investigation should continue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4680212/Don-Jr-promised-dirt-Hillary-meeting-lawyer.html
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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2017, 04:51:08 PM »

If this report is true, about Trump Jr. meeting with that Russian lady to find dirt on Hillary Clinton, then it is what it is. It's politics. Yes, the investigation should continue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4680212/Don-Jr-promised-dirt-Hillary-meeting-lawyer.html

It's politics until it's treason.
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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2017, 05:05:28 PM »

DJT Jr. should testify especially if more is revealed about the meeting
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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2017, 05:05:40 PM »

HOLY follow up story!

"Trump's Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton"

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This could be the thing that gets them.

https://nyti.ms/2uZzquG



You're forgetting two things: "Both sides do it", and literally nothing matters anymore.
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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2017, 05:40:43 PM »

Adam Schieff said Donny jr will be called to testify
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2017, 06:22:31 PM »

Putin must be really laughing his ass off.
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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2017, 07:06:41 PM »








https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/presidents-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-during-presidential-campaign-after-being-promised-information-helpful-to-fathers-effort/2017/07/09/90c0e3e8-64e9-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.88ef2e557331&wpisrc=al_alert-national&wpmk=1
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2017, 07:32:12 PM »

Richard Painter (ethics lawyer under GW Bush) says that this borders on treason:

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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2017, 07:45:39 PM »

Richard Painter (ethics lawyer under GW Bush) says that this borders on treason:

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Yep.
I completely agree.
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2017, 07:54:29 PM »

Jesus.
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« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2017, 07:11:42 AM »

I think there are two issues here:

1) Donald Trump Jr. has repeatedly changed his story on meeting Russians. Everytime it looked "worse" for him. Why should his current version of events regarded as truthful?

2) By his own admission, Donald Trump Jr. met with the Russian lawyer because she claimed to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton. Which raises the question where exactly he would have drawn the line? Would he have been also willing to meet the Russian lawyer had she promised to hack the election in his father's favour? Would he have been willing to meet with members of the Russian Embassy had they claimed to have damaging information on the Democrats?
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« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2017, 07:43:50 AM »

No law breaking activities that I've read about here.  Bad optics, but that's nothing new.
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2017, 07:58:42 AM »

Then twenty years ago we got a little bit softer, but he goes to prison for a long, long time. Now we don't even send him to prison! What is wrong with our leaders? It's terrible!


Does it say something that so many Trump quotes are turning out to be appropriate for Trump himself?
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« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2017, 08:05:15 AM »


Fox News hosts have recently shifted their rhetoric on Russia from "No collusion" to "Well technically it wouldn't be a crime even if he did." I think they'll go on to reference the infamous October surprise conspiracy theory and tie Trump to Reagan in this regard. Trump played Russia like Reagan played Iran! What a beast! Libcucks 0 Republicans 1

For those wondering: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

Yeah, the rats are now abandoning "you can't prove the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians" with haste, and pretending they were never there. I see them carrying goalposts to "it wasn't illegal", "Russia didn't rig the vote" (never seriously presented), and "Trump isn't a Russian intelligence asset".
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« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2017, 08:08:03 AM »

No law breaking activities that I've read about here.  Bad optics, but that's nothing new.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20 may apply here. 

Withholding the information from his security clearance forms is clearly a violation of the law.

Also, hacking computers and stealing emails are crimes under U.S. law.  If a person goes to a fence and offers to buy a TV they know or suspect is stolen, they are also guilty of receiving stolen goods.  This situation is analogous.
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« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2017, 08:18:22 AM »

No law breaking activities that I've read about here.  Bad optics, but that's nothing new.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20 may apply here. 

Withholding the information from his security clearance forms is clearly a violation of the law.

Also, hacking computers and stealing emails are crimes under U.S. law.  If a person goes to a fence and offers to buy a TV they know or suspect is stolen, they are also guilty of receiving stolen goods.  This situation is analogous.

And keep in mind, this is just what he admitted to. Given that Trump's circle has lied about everything so far, it's perfectly reasonable to ask just how incriminating was the meeting, in order for admitting to attempted (and likely illegal) collusion with a possible Russian government agent to seem like a good idea.
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« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2017, 08:23:46 AM »

Interesting story
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