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« on: August 14, 2005, 12:27:42 PM »

I'm just hoping Dems don't suffer in '06 due to black apathy if the Cardin/Mfume primary gets nasty and Cardin wins.

I can see a situation like this happening in Philadelphia come 2007.  Say Jon Saidel or John Dougherty beats up on Chaka Fattah or Janine Blackwell.  Blacks might stay home and I hate to say it Frank Rizzo Jr. could emerge as victor. The name Rizzo if some may recall is quite a popular name in the white parts of Philadelphia. 
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2005, 02:36:28 PM »

I'm just hoping Dems don't suffer in '06 due to black apathy if the Cardin/Mfume primary gets nasty and Cardin wins.

I can see a situation like this happening in Philadelphia come 2007.  Say Jon Saidel or John Dougherty beats up on Chaka Fattah or Janine Blackwell.  Blacks might stay home and I hate to say it Frank Rizzo Jr. could emerge as victor. The name Rizzo if some may recall is quite a popular name in the white parts of Philadelphia. 

This type of thing is a big part of the reason the Democrats have lost the last 3 mayoral elections in New York, and appear likely to lose their fourth straight one this year.

In my opinion, it serves them right.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I'm a Jon Saidel supporter and he is in my sig on the bottom left.  He looks kinda nerdy and has a hairpiece, but is a great man.  I know a lot of white Dems are supporting Johnny Doc because of the unions and the black Dems will be supporting either Fattah or Blackwell.  Michael Nutter could also be in the mix and might do well with conservative Dems both black AND white.  I would like to support an African American at some point but the field of candidates among them is not too impressive.  Nutter is quite a DINO.  The situation here is going to be very hairy. 

It's a shame that race and poltics comes into play so much, but it does.  I hate to say that Republicans are experts at picking African American candidates for various offices and can use it very well in our faces "see, see we pick minorities as well."  Other than Barack Obama or Harold Ford, there are slim pickings on the Dems side.  It seems the black face of our party is Al Sharpton and Maxine Waters and that could be a difficult thing to overcome for us.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2005, 02:24:46 PM »


I'm a Jon Saidel supporter and he is in my sig on the bottom left.  He looks kinda nerdy and has a hairpiece, but is a great man.  I know a lot of white Dems are supporting Johnny Doc because of the unions and the black Dems will be supporting either Fattah or Blackwell.  Michael Nutter could also be in the mix and might do well with conservative Dems both black AND white.  I would like to support an African American at some point but the field of candidates among them is not too impressive.  Nutter is quite a DINO.  The situation here is going to be very hairy. 

It's a shame that race and poltics comes into play so much, but it does.  I hate to say that Republicans are experts at picking African American candidates for various offices and can use it very well in our faces "see, see we pick minorities as well."  Other than Barack Obama or Harold Ford, there are slim pickings on the Dems side.  It seems the black face of our party is Al Sharpton and Maxine Waters and that could be a difficult thing to overcome for us.

The problem is that the Democrats have used the politics of resentment and racial grievance to hang on to large percentages of the black vote.  But now it's considered racist to run a primary campaign against a black candidate, and blacks won't support a white Democrat who beats a black Democrat in the primary.

This racial divide has really hurt the Democratic party in New York City.  Imagine a city as Democratic as New York and Democrats haven't elected a mayor since 1989.

You're right about the public face of the Democrats.  Many of the blacks in the Democratic party are a very sorry lot.  Al Sharpton and Maxine Waters are very good examples.  People like this could never win an election outside of heavily black inner city neighborhoods.  They're poison for anybody else, and their racial dividers.

It's interesting to watch this problem in New York, and now hear about it in Maryland and Philadelphia.  It seems that blacks are going to start demanding more from Democrats in return for 90% of their vote, and Democrats are not going to be able to give it to them without losing much of the white support that they have left.  That is what has happened in the New York mayoral races.

This is why I was surprised Philadelphia voted 81% for Kerry especially after last year's racially divisive mayoral election which the white neighborhoods voted overwhelmingly for Republican Sam Katz albeit the end result was 60-40 Street.  I knew when I was pulling for Katz I was going to vote for Howard Dean or whoever then next year.  Yeah I was a Deaniac for Katz.  When you have a mayor that says "the brothas and sistas are running this city, if you don't like it register Republican", I though the Dems were in deep sh!t here with the white voters.  I guarantee if Bush were replaced with McCain, McCain would have creamed Kerry in NE and South Philly.  I can also rest assure you that Philadelphia's Dem nominee will be African American and the GOP one will be Frank Rizzo Jr. 
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