France General Discussion III: Tout doit disparaître

[mvd10]

At this stage I'd vote for Macron over someone from LR in 2022 lol.

[TheSaint250]

At this stage I'd vote for Macron over someone from LR in 2022 lol.

[Tirnam]

Macron becomes popular again.

50% of French approve the job of Macron as President according to Ifop for Paris match, up 6 points since November, 48% disapprove.

It's the first time in this poll that a President leaves unpopularity.

[parochial boy]

RIP Johnny Hallyday

[swl]

RIP..real legend in France, the only one of his kind

[Tirnam]

Not a huge fan of him, but yeah a real icon in French music.

But they need to calm down, the media coverage is already insufferable, apparently a national tribute is in preparation, maybe with a procession on the Champs-Elysées...

[Antonio the Sixth]

I mean sure, RIP, but idgaf tbh.

[parochial boy]

I'm not a fan at all either, but he has been around since basically forever, especially at this time of year - so it's a bit weird for him to suddenly not be.

The media reaction has been ridiculous though.

[Tirnam]

Xavier Bertrand leaves LR after Wauquiez’s election

[darklordoftech]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/france-impose-total-ban-mobile-phones-schools/

[Zinneke]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/france-impose-total-ban-mobile-phones-schools/

Good, now ban laptops from university classes.

[Santander]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/france-impose-total-ban-mobile-phones-schools/

Good, now ban laptops from university classes.

(except computing, math, business modeling, etc. classes where it may be necessary)

[Zinneke]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/france-impose-total-ban-mobile-phones-schools/

Good, now ban laptops from university classes.

(except computing, math, business modeling, etc. classes where it may be necessary)

yeah, but even computing now some courses just straight up get you to start writing code on paper.

[MaxQue]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/france-impose-total-ban-mobile-phones-schools/

Good, now ban laptops from university classes.

(except computing, math, business modeling, etc. classes where it may be necessary)

yeah, but even computing now some courses just straight up get you to start writing code on paper.

That's straight-up incompetence, I would argue.

[Zinneke]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/france-impose-total-ban-mobile-phones-schools/

Good, now ban laptops from university classes.

(except computing, math, business modeling, etc. classes where it may be necessary)

yeah, but even computing now some courses just straight up get you to start writing code on paper.

That's straight-up incompetence, I would argue.

Yeah its crazy for CS.

Regardless a lot of econometric work I did we did in a computer lab, and obviously we had the software available on the pc for assignments if we wanted. But personal laptops were a hinderance otherwise. So are phones.

Bit sensationalised but there was a good feature about attention economy on the BBC the other day : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIufBVLDvM

[Tirnam]

Maybe an update on Macron's popularity.

While he suffered a free fall in his approval ratings in the summer (unprecedented since Chirac 1995), and was on his way to become the most unpopular president in History, his numbers stabilized in September and since are improving.

A new poll released today (Ifop for JDD) shows that 52% of French approve Macron's job as president (up 6 points in a month, 10 points in two months), another poll (Ifop for Paris Match) has him at 50%. Other polling institutes (BVA, Harris, and Odoxa) have him on the high 40s and will release their December's numbers soon.
In two other polls (Ipsos and Elabe) his numbers are around 40%, but in those two poll, even after his inauguration, he never was at 50% and their undecided numbers are high.
His favorability rating is also improving, with 57% of favorability, 3rd among French politicians.

A such movement toward popularity after becoming unpopular is unique in normal circumstances. It only happens with Mitterrand and Chirac during cohabitation periods, and for Chirac with the Iraq crisis in 2003.

The reasons given by the pollsters to explain this movement are that the people are the feeling that Macron is doing what he promised during the campaign, they feel that his policy is coherent, and they approve his credibility as President especially on the international stage.

[Dr. MB]

Maybe an update on Macron's popularity.

While he suffered a free fall in his approval ratings in the summer (unprecedented since Chirac 1995), and was on his way to become the most unpopular president in History, his numbers stabilized in September and since are improving.

A new poll released today (Ifop for JDD) shows that 52% of French approve Macron's job as president (up 6 points in a month, 10 points in two months), another poll (Ifop for Paris Match) has him at 50%. Other polling institutes (BVA, Harris, and Odoxa) have him on the high 40s and will release their December's numbers soon.
In two other polls (Ipsos and Elabe) his numbers are around 40%, but in those two poll, even after his inauguration, he never was at 50% and their undecided numbers are high.
His favorability rating is also improving, with 57% of favorability, 3rd among French politicians.

A such movement toward popularity after becoming unpopular is unique in normal circumstances. It only happens with Mitterrand and Chirac during cohabitation periods, and for Chirac with the Iraq crisis in 2003.

The reasons given by the pollsters to explain this movement are that the people are the feeling that Macron is doing what he promised during the campaign, they feel that his policy is coherent, and they approve his credibility as President especially on the international stage.

There hasn’t been a single good French President since WWII. Macron included.

[Tirnam]

First poll for the 2019 european election, Ifop for Le Figaro

LREM: 26%
FN: 17%
FI: 14%
LR: 12%
PS: 8%
DLF: 6% (Dupont-Aignan)
Greens: 4%
Center-right: 3.5%
Others: 3%
Communists: 2%
Patriots: 2% (Philippot)
UPR: 1.5%
Far-left: 1%

Obviously a very bad poll for LR and Wauquiez, but I have a hard time to believe that FN and DLF are that high.

[NewYorkExpress]

First poll for the 2019 european election, Ifop for Le Figaro

LREM: 26%
FN: 17%
FI: 14%
LR: 12%
PS: 8%
DLF: 6% (Dupont-Aignan)
Greens: 4%
Center-right: 3.5%
Others: 3%
Communists: 2%
Patriots: 2% (Philippot)
UPR: 1.5%
Far-left: 1%

Obviously a very bad poll for LR and Wauquiez, but I have a hard time to believe that FN and DLF are that high.

Marine Le Pen has made FN look credible to many. I'm not surprised they are doing so well at all.

[Sestak]

I'm much more surprised at the Aignanites pulling 6% than I am about FN.

[mvd10]

First poll for the 2019 european election, Ifop for Le Figaro

LREM: 26%
FN: 17%
FI: 14%
LR: 12%
PS: 8%
DLF: 6% (Dupont-Aignan)
Greens: 4%
Center-right: 3.5%
Others: 3%
Communists: 2%
Patriots: 2% (Philippot)
UPR: 1.5%
Far-left: 1%

Obviously a very bad poll for LR and Wauquiez, but I have a hard time to believe that FN and DLF are that high.

Is the Center-right UDI or are they the LR split-offs?

[Tirnam]

Marine Le Pen has made FN look credible to many. I'm not surprised they are doing so well at all.

Since the presidential debate Le Pen has lost a huge part of her credibility.

Is the Center-right UDI or are they the LR split-offs?

UDI and Agir, a new party formed by former LR members.

[swl]

First poll for the 2019 european election, Ifop for Le Figaro

LREM: 26%
FN: 17%
FI: 14%
LR: 12%
PS: 8%
DLF: 6% (Dupont-Aignan)
Greens: 4%
Center-right: 3.5%
Others: 3%
Communists: 2%
Patriots: 2% (Philippot)
UPR: 1.5%
Far-left: 1%

Obviously a very bad poll for LR and Wauquiez, but I have a hard time to believe that FN and DLF are that high.

Marine Le Pen has made FN look credible to many. I'm not surprised they are doing so well at all.

they reached almost 25% and finished first in 2014, so polling at 17% is quite bad.

[NewYorkExpress]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42674724

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[Antonio the Sixth]

I love French bread in general, but the baguette specifically is overrated.