Who is the most to blame for Hillary Clinton's loss?
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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2017, 10:40:03 PM »

Hillary and her campaign. It was perceived as out-of-touch by many, especially in the Rust Belt and in rural areas. If she had been more in touch with voters in these areas, it is entirely conceivable that she could have won over enough votes to win the election. Of course, James Comey, Russian interference, and fake news were also factors, but these were beyond the control of Hillary and her campaign. If she had been in a fundamentally stronger position, the external factors mentioned above, even if they had happened as they did, wouldn't have been enough to tip the election away from her.
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2017, 03:25:55 PM »


Agreed, although I wouldn't say the Sanders supporters were the most to blame for her loss.
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2017, 10:13:52 PM »

A combination of the following -

Putin
Comey
Bernie-bros
Bernie Sanders
Obama (And his good looks)
DWS (And DNC)
Misogynistic & sexist people

But of course not Hillary herself
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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2017, 10:23:34 PM »

A combination of the following -

Putin
Comey
Bernie-bros
Bernie Sanders
Obama (And his good looks)
DWS (And DNC)
Misogynistic & sexist people

But of course not Hillary herself

Of course, it's everyone else's fault that Hillary isn't dictator of Earth for life.
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2017, 12:32:40 AM »

Donald Trump tapped into both cultural and economic angst and ran a campaign that had an actual populist fervor to it. The Hillarybot was not programmed for such an endeavor.
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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2017, 09:41:46 PM »

Hillary's history of supporting NAFTA and the TPP, her apparent defeatism when it came to employment in the rust belt, Trumpian populism, and Comey.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2017, 08:00:18 AM »

I don't really agree with Trump as the answer, because a generic Republican probably would have done better (Trump's totals, plus 75% of Gary Johnson's numbers.) The Republican establishment did back Trump once he became the nominee, so that is a factor.

The overwhelming majority of the vote was already settled, so that's a major factor (at least 40% of the voters will vote Republican.) The political environment wasn't great for Hillary, running to keep the White House for the third term for her party.

I'd put the blame on Hillary and Obama.

Hillary made severe tactical errors, and never articulated a message for her campaign. The email controversy came from an effort to skirt government accountability laws, and she took way too long to offer an apology. Her focus on minorities and boutique liberal causes in the primary convinced working class white voters (who faced declining life expectancies, which doesn't happen a lot in the civilized world) that she wasn't offering a solution to their problems. Her staff was in disarray, and they didn't feel comfortable criticizing her.

Obama appointed Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as head of the DNC. He didn't really care all that much about the DNC, which came back to bite the party in the ass, when they weren't able to use resources effectively.
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2017, 01:12:23 PM »

I don't really agree with Trump as the answer, because a generic Republican probably would have done better (Trump's totals, plus 75% of Gary Johnson's numbers.) The Republican establishment did back Trump once he became the nominee, so that is a factor.

The overwhelming majority of the vote was already settled, so that's a major factor (at least 40% of the voters will vote Republican.) The political environment wasn't great for Hillary, running to keep the White House for the third term for her party.

I'd put the blame on Hillary and Obama.

Hillary made severe tactical errors, and never articulated a message for her campaign. The email controversy came from an effort to skirt government accountability laws, and she took way too long to offer an apology. Her focus on minorities and boutique liberal causes in the primary convinced working class white voters (who faced declining life expectancies, which doesn't happen a lot in the civilized world) that she wasn't offering a solution to their problems. Her staff was in disarray, and they didn't feel comfortable criticizing her.

Obama appointed Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as head of the DNC. He didn't really care all that much about the DNC, which came back to bite the party in the ass, when they weren't able to use resources effectively.

I don't really agree with that. I believe Trump's appeal was unique and allowed him to be more electable than a generic Republican
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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2017, 01:50:29 PM »

Comey, emails, and sexism.
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2017, 07:38:53 PM »

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