Trump hits 60% disapproval (Gallup)

[Nyvin]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

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https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/874675302227738624

So when do you think he'll break GW's record lows set in 2008?   It's about the only lower bar still left for him now.

[Matty]

Is this due mainly to comey testimony? If so, why did it take a few delayed days to kick in?

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

TIRED OF WINNING

[Middle-aged Europe]

Is this due mainly to comey testimony? If so, why did it take a few delayed days to kick in?

This poll was conducted on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

Also, the Comey testimony itself isn't an isolated event. The way the Trump camp reacted to the Comey testimony in the days after has possibly played a role too.

[Virginiá]

Is this due mainly to comey testimony? If so, why did it take a few delayed days to kick in?

1. Maybe a healthy amount of the people watching the testimony were Trump supporters, who then viewed the right-wing commentary that Trump was "vindicated" positively, very slightly & temporarily increasing enthusiasm, which we know makes people more likely to answer calls from pollsters
2. Maybe all the people watching the testimony were mostly locked into their stance of approval/disapproval, and the people it actually affected took time to digest/see clips of the proceedings over the following days
3. Maybe the testimony didn't have much of an effect, and this rise in disapproval is mostly unrelated to the Russia stuff. This is probably the worst option for Trump, because it could mean he is beginning to settle at a new, even lower baseline in approvals.
4. Maybe some combination of 1-3

[Inmate Trump]

Yet his core supporters remain morons.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wonderful.

[Mr. Smith]

No

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

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https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/874675302227738624

So when do you think he'll break GW's record lows set in 2008?   It's about the only lower bar still left for him now.

Carter didn't even get near  this point until almost a year before he lost re-election.  Just ftr

[Sir Mohamed]

It's all the fault of the Fake Media. Sad!

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@realdonaldtrump

[ProudModerate2]

It's Day 144 of the Trump presidency. Here are the Gallup net approvals of U.S. presidents 144 days (or the closest approximation) after their term had started.


Truman +73 (82/9)
Johnson +63 (75/12)
Kennedy +63 (74/11)
Bush Sr. +56 (70/14)
Eisenhower +54 (69/15)
Nixon +47 (63/16)
Carter +44 (63/19)
Reagan +31 (59/28)
Obama +30 (61/31)
Bush Jr. +20 (55/35)

Ford -2 (37/39)
Clinton -12 (37/49)
Trump -24 (36/60)

[ProudModerate2]

He has finally reached 60% disapproval on Gallup.
Congrats, Mr. President!

I remember at one point they compared how long it took all the presidents to reach 50% disapproval. Anybody have the numbers for 60%? I'm pretty sure Obama never hit 60% on Gallup, at least.

Carter: Never
Reagan: Never
H.W. Bush:1,288
Clinton: Never
W. Bush: 1,756
Obama: Never
Trump: 144

I know it is early, but House Republicans are toast. Gallup may be a bit of an outlier, but it falls in line with what we have seen with Trump's numbers the last month.

[ProudModerate2]

[Suburbia]

He needs to get going on the economy, and job creation. Period.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

He needs to get going on the economy, and job creation. Period.

That seems like sound political advice. But I doubt Trump will take it.

Actual advancement on those takes big, slow projects that require lots of detail and work. But they provide zero instant gratification to Trump's fragile and swollen ego. In other words, I think the odds that Trump will truly "get going on the economy, and job creation" are slightly lower than that the Earth will fall into the Sun.

He can probably manage making some overhyped announcements, golfing, and then take credit for any positive economic news.

[Yank2133]

Job creation won't save Trump.

Economic optimism is the highest it has been since 2007 and yet Trump's approval rating concerning the economy is under water (people rightly know who's economy this truly is and it is not 45....).

[Inmate Trump]

Job creation won't save Trump.

Maybe Putin will save him.

[136or142]

I read an article about every member of Trump's cabinet praising him after he boasted about his (fake) accomplishments and I thought "this must be one of those stories based on anonymous sources that the media is writing up for sensationalist purposes.' Not only is it true, it was on taped and televised.

How can anybody accept this lunacy?  This is the sort of behavior that would be expected from Stalinist Soviet Union or North Korea.

[ProudModerate2]

I read an article about every member of Trump's cabinet praising him after he boasted about his (fake) accomplishments and I thought "this must be one of those stories based on anonymous sources that the media is writing up for sensationalist purposes.' Not only is it true, it was on taped and televised.

How can anybody accept this lunacy?  This is the sort of behavior that would be expected from Stalinist Soviet Union or North Korea.

Correct Adam T.
We have an Atlas thread on that clownish cabinet meeting. Here is a direct link to it if you would like to add your comments :
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=266255.0

It includes links to video of this "very serious" ass-kissing to the Fuhrer.
There is also a link to a video where Schumer re-creates and mocks the meeting. Funny stuff.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

It's all the fault of the Fake Media. Sad!

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@realdonaldtrump

Liberals and their fake media allies are so blinded by hate that they can't even recognize Trump being vindicated. Not good!

[pbrower2a]

Is this due mainly to comey testimony? If so, why did it take a few delayed days to kick in?

1. Maybe a healthy amount of the people watching the testimony were Trump supporters, who then viewed the right-wing commentary that Trump was "vindicated" positively, very slightly & temporarily increasing enthusiasm, which we know makes people more likely to answer calls from pollsters
2. Maybe all the people watching the testimony were mostly locked into their stance of approval/disapproval, and the people it actually affected took time to digest/see clips of the proceedings over the following days
3. Maybe the testimony didn't have much of an effect, and this rise in disapproval is mostly unrelated to the Russia stuff. This is probably the worst option for Trump, because it could mean he is beginning to settle at a new, even lower baseline in approvals.
4. Maybe some combination of 1-3

Most people had their opinions set nearly in stone before the Comey testimony, and Comey did nothing to cause people who already despised President Trump to give the President a break. Of course there is a 'clean government' faction within the GOP, one that insists upon rigid adherence to Constitutional norms and a rejection of corruption even if it wants a plutocratic, militaristic  America in line with 'Christian' values on sex and public expression. This faction of the GOP was extremely unhappy with Obama for not opposing same-sex marriage and abortion. Donald Trump has so far offered nothing to them except the promise of low taxes for economic elites and may fail at achieving such. This part of the GOP will never vote for someone like Obama, but it can abandon Donald Trump. Watch for Third Party activity in 2020.

Your guess on how large the 'clean government' faction of the GOP is... but it is now in the 'disapprove' category by now. One cannot count on it voting for any Democrat, but it can stay home on Election Day or vote Third Party. If it is even 4% of the electorate, it is enough to make a difference between Democrats winning the Presidency and the Senate and Republicans getting the Presidency and the Senate.       

[136or142]

Is this due mainly to comey testimony? If so, why did it take a few delayed days to kick in?

1. Maybe a healthy amount of the people watching the testimony were Trump supporters, who then viewed the right-wing commentary that Trump was "vindicated" positively, very slightly & temporarily increasing enthusiasm, which we know makes people more likely to answer calls from pollsters
2. Maybe all the people watching the testimony were mostly locked into their stance of approval/disapproval, and the people it actually affected took time to digest/see clips of the proceedings over the following days
3. Maybe the testimony didn't have much of an effect, and this rise in disapproval is mostly unrelated to the Russia stuff. This is probably the worst option for Trump, because it could mean he is beginning to settle at a new, even lower baseline in approvals.
4. Maybe some combination of 1-3

Most people had their opinions set nearly in stone before the Comey testimony, and Comey did nothing to cause people who already despised President Trump to give the President a break. Of course there is a 'clean government' faction within the GOP, one that insists upon rigid adherence to Constitutional norms and a rejection of corruption even if it wants a plutocratic, militaristic  America in line with 'Christian' values on sex and public expression. This faction of the GOP was extremely unhappy with Obama for not opposing same-sex marriage and abortion. Donald Trump has so far offered nothing to them except the promise of low taxes for economic elites and may fail at achieving such. This part of the GOP will never vote for someone like Obama, but it can abandon Donald Trump. Watch for Third Party activity in 2020.

Your guess on how large the 'clean government' faction of the GOP is... but it is now in the 'disapprove' category by now. One cannot count on it voting for any Democrat, but it can stay home on Election Day or vote Third Party. If it is even 4% of the electorate, it is enough to make a difference between Democrats winning the Presidency and the Senate and Republicans getting the Presidency and the Senate.       

Neil Gorsuch?

[136or142]

I read an article about every member of Trump's cabinet praising him after he boasted about his (fake) accomplishments and I thought "this must be one of those stories based on anonymous sources that the media is writing up for sensationalist purposes.' Not only is it true, it was on taped and televised.

How can anybody accept this lunacy?  This is the sort of behavior that would be expected from Stalinist Soviet Union or North Korea.

Correct Adam T.
We have an Atlas thread on that clownish cabinet meeting. Here is a direct link to it if you would like to add your comments :
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=266255.0

It includes links to video of this "very serious" ass-kissing to the Fuhrer.
There is also a link to a video where Schumer re-creates and mocks the meeting. Funny stuff.

I was looking for a thread on it thanks.  I think my post also fits here though as I think it is one of the reasons why Trump's disapproval ratings are so high.  That and that the Gallup survey is a liberal biased poll that produces fake news!

[BlueSwan]

Job creation won't save Trump.

Economic optimism is the highest it has been since 2007 and yet Trump's approval rating concerning the economy is under water (people rightly know who's economy this truly is and it is not 45....).

It is actually quite interesting. The economy is generally strong (which has nothing to do with Trump obviously). It is quite unusual for a president to have this low approval in a strong economy - imagine what it would be like in a weak economy.

[Inmate Trump]

What will it take to get him either to 65+% disapproval or to 30% or lower approval?

[Adam Griffin]

What will it take to get him either to 65+% disapproval or to 30% or lower approval?

A 2008 redux and/or plenty of time in office, if even that.

I made a post over on AAD yesterday about this: I don't think he can fall even to 30% anytime soon - if at all - given polarization without some massive factors working against him. For that matter, I don't think even Bush would have fallen below 30% in the wake of the financial crisis had he not been such a terrible President that dragged us into massive land wars, let entire cities drown, and had been in office for so long. People were basically sick of him by then and knew he was on his way out, which made it easier for polarization to fade and a bunch of Republicans to say "meh, I'm ready for a new one".

I do think time in office is a big variable in it all. If Bush had been in, say, year 3 of his presidency, I don't think all of what got him to 25% would have gotten him below 35% had it happened by then, for instance.