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« on: May 21, 2017, 03:51:52 PM »

Trump to propose big cuts to safety-net in new budget, slashing Medicaid and opening door to other limits - The Washington Post

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 03:57:39 PM »

woohoo! booyah!
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 04:00:14 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 04:05:00 PM »

oh noes, ......imagine there would have been a candidate who would had promised to prevent cuts to those programs. :-/
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 04:17:35 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2017, 04:27:37 PM »

I say it is just red meat for "Freedom Caucasus"-people  that will be revisited as the leaked version of the Religous EO was. Probably leaked by Trump's team. Or at least I hope so.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2017, 04:39:15 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
Go to hell.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 04:44:01 PM »


For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
Go to hell.

Republicans ran on cutting this, your brother needs it to survive and yet you voted for the guys who want to cut what he needs to live. Maybe a cold punch of reality to the face is what you need, so it still stands, stop smoking your luxury cigarettes and prepare to save kiddo, the Republican world is hard.
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 04:58:24 PM »

Onto the budget, this might actually work if 1) A decent economy happens after the recession 2) We don't cut taxes. These two would lead to a balanced budget and allow us to pay down the debt.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2017, 05:00:08 PM »


For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
Go to hell.

Republicans ran on cutting this, your brother needs it to survive and yet you voted for the guys who want to cut what he needs to live. Maybe a cold punch of reality to the face is what you need, so it still stands, stop smoking your luxury cigarettes and prepare to save kiddo, the Republican world is hard.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2017, 05:06:16 PM »

OK, and the relevance of dragging in Sanchez's brother into this debate or his deathsticks is? I don't see the relevance here and dragging people's personal lives into this makes it feel like we're not debating the budget but Sanchez's internal drama be what they are.  

So: we could argue that balancing the budget and paying down the national debt would allow us to reduce our interest payments which would save us $1 trillion per 4 years if we paid off our national debt or reduced it to a negligible amount. That is one reason to back cuts to the budget (but also another reason to suggest that tax cuts be put on hold in favor of gaining budget surpluses).

I haven't read this document and I might, but do we know for a fact what the Trump budget really cuts without reading the budget booklet they put out?

 
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2017, 05:45:46 PM »

OK, and the relevance of dragging in Sanchez's brother into this debate or his deathsticks is? I don't see the relevance here and dragging people's personal lives into this makes it feel like we're not debating the budget but Sanchez's internal drama be what they are. 

So: we could argue that balancing the budget and paying down the national debt would allow us to reduce our interest payments which would save us $1 trillion per 4 years if we paid off our national debt or reduced it to a negligible amount. That is one reason to back cuts to the budget (but also another reason to suggest that tax cuts be put on hold in favor of gaining budget surpluses).

I haven't read this document and I might, but do we know for a fact what the Trump budget really cuts without reading the budget booklet they put out?

 

He's the one who brought him into the discussion. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2017, 05:48:54 PM »


For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
Go to hell.

Republicans ran on cutting this, your brother needs it to survive and yet you voted for the guys who want to cut what he needs to live. Maybe a cold punch of reality to the face is what you need, so it still stands, stop smoking your luxury cigarettes and prepare to save kiddo, the Republican world is hard.
Such an asshole.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2017, 06:30:56 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2017, 06:34:55 PM by TD »


For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
Go to hell.

Republicans ran on cutting this, your brother needs it to survive and yet you voted for the guys who want to cut what he needs to live. Maybe a cold punch of reality to the face is what you need, so it still stands, stop smoking your luxury cigarettes and prepare to save kiddo, the Republican world is hard.
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In your case however after threatening violence against liberals instead of making any cogent points I would stay quiet for a while if I were you. You're not exactly the best person to make any sort of defense here.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2017, 06:36:09 PM »

I don't really know enough about the specific cuts to have a position. I usually take my lead on supporting cuts based on politicians I trust to make the right cuts.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2017, 07:02:06 PM »


For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You might want to cut out smoking the deathsticks if your family will want to have enough money to support him once they cut all the safety nest.
Go to hell.

Republicans ran on cutting this, your brother needs it to survive and yet you voted for the guys who want to cut what he needs to live. Maybe a cold punch of reality to the face is what you need, so it still stands, stop smoking your luxury cigarettes and prepare to save kiddo, the Republican world is hard.
Such an

In your case however after threatening violence against liberals instead of making any cogent points I would stay quiet for a while if I were you. You're not exactly the best person to make any sort of defense here.
You people don't understand my horrible comedy. I can't believe you people thought that I was being serious. Liberals and cuckservatives are so boring and have no sense of comedy whatsoever.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2017, 07:29:48 PM »

oh noes, ......imagine there would have been a candidate who would had promised to prevent cuts to those programs. :-/

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-wall-street-promoted-commission-pushed-social
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2017, 07:44:17 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You are such a disingenuous hack.

Trump hasn't even bother to call one single Democrat about healthcare. He immediately began to negotiate with the Freedom Caucus when it came to healthcare and moved to the right.

Hell, he didn't even bother trying to do business with the moderates in his own party.  
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2017, 07:52:43 PM »

For the life of me, why do we tolerate this?
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2017, 08:02:38 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You are such a disingenuous hack.

Trump hasn't even bother to call one single Democrat about healthcare. He immediately began to negotiate with the Freedom Caucus when it came to healthcare and moved to the right.

Hell, he didn't even bother trying to do business with the moderates in his own party.  

He's gonna govern like an economic populist one day. He said so and I trust him!
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2017, 08:18:07 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You are such a disingenuous hack.

Trump hasn't even bother to call one single Democrat about healthcare. He immediately began to negotiate with the Freedom Caucus when it came to healthcare and moved to the right.

Hell, he didn't even bother trying to do business with the moderates in his own party.  

He's gonna govern like an economic populist one day. He said so and I trust him!

lol.

The fact that people still buy into the myth of him being a populist is sad. The man is a con-artist with no set beliefs and just says whatever sounds good at the time.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2017, 08:20:44 PM »

Does anyone in Congress pay any attention to T***p's budget proposals?
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2017, 10:58:58 PM »

OK, and the relevance of dragging in Sanchez's brother into this debate or his deathsticks is? I don't see the relevance here and dragging people's personal lives into this makes it feel like we're not debating the budget but Sanchez's internal drama be what they are.  

So: we could argue that balancing the budget and paying down the national debt would allow us to reduce our interest payments which would save us $1 trillion per 4 years if we paid off our national debt or reduced it to a negligible amount. That is one reason to back cuts to the budget (but also another reason to suggest that tax cuts be put on hold in favor of gaining budget surpluses).

I haven't read this document and I might, but do we know for a fact what the Trump budget really cuts without reading the budget booklet they put out?

 


Meanwhile, $1 of tax increases still affect the budget the same as $1 in budget cuts. When does it need to be an Occupy Wall Street type 2 adaalat the hard mathematical quantifiable fact that the prosperity of the last 10 to 20 years - - what there has been of it anyway - Dash has overwhelmingly gone to a tiny fraction of a percent at the top of the economic ladder. Under such circumstances, would it really be that socialistic for a moderate Republican myself to suggest that, God forbid, a tax increase on the uber wealthy be given priority over slashing Medicaid for healthcare among the poorest? Not to mention I trust Medicaid disbursements providing jobs for home health care aides, nurses comma medical technicians across-the-board, rather than the absence of any tax increase on the extremely wealthy cutting jobs like an extra Gardener for their third house or the like.
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2017, 11:01:30 PM »

Onto the budget, this might actually work if 1) A decent economy happens after the recession 2) We don't cut taxes. These two would lead to a balanced budget and allow us to pay down the debt.

A balanced budget paid for with human lives. Sorry folks. That rock won't swim.
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2017, 11:05:50 PM »

For my brother (who relies on Medicaid) to continue receiving care, there needs to be cuts to make it sustainable. This is worrisome, but it's not like we can continue on the same path. How much influence Ryan has over this process will determine my support.

If only the Dems were less partisan. The GOP blocked Obama at every turn while the Democrats whined about "muh bipartisanship." They should put their money where their mouths are and work with Trump on the single-payer plan that he himself floated in 2015. Much better alternative IMO.

You are such a disingenuous hack.

Trump hasn't even bother to call one single Democrat about healthcare. He immediately began to negotiate with the Freedom Caucus when it came to healthcare and moved to the right.

Hell, he didn't even bother trying to do business with the moderates in his own party.  
Why should he? You guys have been working against him from Wednesday, November  9th. The WI and PA recounts, the "Hamilton Electors," the riots, the walk-outs, the collusion with the intelligence communities and the neoconservative elites to effect a coup. You guys could have been friends, but you choose to make us your enemies. That is solely on your side.

The moderates in our own party are even worse. They're bitter because the American people have been rejecting them non-stop since 2008.
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