Trump approval ratings thread 1.1

[Cashew]

^^^
He wouldn't win New Hampshire after calling it a drug infested den.

"How stupid are the people of Iowa?"

[Beet]

Trump has found the perfect ally to help him raise his approvals: Mother Nature.

[JA]

Trump has found the perfect ally to help him raise his approvals: Mother Nature.

If he's a very good boy, Santa Claus might even deliver him an early Christmas present in 2020 by rupturing the San Andreas fault and sinking California into the Pacific.

Seriously though, it's disturbing how the man who's helping to ensure that natural disasters will be exacerbated in the future due to the Chinese hoax known as climate change, which his administration is refusing to even acknowledge despite the scientific consensus, is receiving a temporary bump in his polling numbers simply by pretending to look busy while the country gets pummeled by major hurricanes.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

^^^
He wouldn't win New Hampshire after calling it a drug infested den.

"How stupid are the people of Iowa?"

Iowa was always more friendly to a Trump type candidate. NH is not voting GOP in 2020.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

NBC/WSJ, Sep 14-18, 900 adults (change from August)

Approve 43 (+3)
Disapprove 52 (-3)

All Trump has to do is shut up and he can salvage this presidency.

It feels like Trump has been president now for 8 years, not 8 months. It was only 5 weeks ago that Trump supposedly had hit rock bottom with his response to the Charlottesville events. It feels like that happened 6 months ago now.

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NBC/WSJ, Sep 14-18, 900 adults (change from August)

Approve 43 (+3)
Disapprove 52 (-3)

All Trump has to do is shut up and he can salvage this presidency.

And have antifa go ballistic a few more times and he should be able to easily beat Kamala Harris.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

NBC/WSJ, Sep 14-18, 900 adults (change from August)

Approve 43 (+3)
Disapprove 52 (-3)

All Trump has to do is shut up and he can salvage this presidency.

And have antifa go ballistic a few more times and he should be able to easily beat Kamala Harris.

And we know how much of an uphill battle that is already going to be.

[GeorgiaModerate]

PPP, Sep 20-21, 638 RV

Approve 42 (+2)
Disapprove 54 (+1)

[Virginiá]

Gallup (September 21st)

Approve 38% (+1)
Disapprove 56% (-/-)

[GeorgiaModerate]

SurveyMonkey weekly tracker, Sep 15-21

Approve 45 (+3) - Strongly 23 (nc)
Disapprove 53 (-2) - Strongly 40 (-2)

[HisGrace]

SurveyMonkey weekly tracker, Sep 15-21

Approve 45 (+3) - Strongly 23 (nc)
Disapprove 53 (-2) - Strongly 40 (-2)

While those are generally good numbers for him 23 strongly approve vs 40 strongly disapprove (out of 53 percent disapproving) doesn't bode well for his long term prospects.

[pbrower2a]

^^^
He wouldn't win New Hampshire after calling it a drug infested den.

"How stupid are the people of Iowa?"

Iowa was always more friendly to a Trump type candidate. NH is not voting GOP in 2020.

Iowa has been more amenable to  populist style and appeals, than, for example, Virginia. 

[Matty]

According to that surverymonkey poll, trump has seen a 11 point swing in his approval/disapproval spread since late august. If Hurricanes and "bipartisanship optics" will do that, can you imagine what a war with north korea would do? (at least in the short term?)

Hope he doesn't get any ideas. lol

[pbrower2a]

With the President in a "double-dog-dare you" mode...

[Virginiá]

According to that surverymonkey poll, trump has seen a 11 point swing in his approval/disapproval spread since late august. If Hurricanes and "bipartisanship optics" will do that, can you imagine what a war with north korea would do? (at least in the short term?)

Hope he doesn't get any ideas. lol

There is no guarantee a war would help him. People have to see the war as necessary, and worth the cost. Further it's very doubtful a war with a country like North Korea would be painless. There would quickly be a lot of casualties and an eventual high cost. A shock to the global economy wouldn't be out of the picture, either. I mean really, when is the last time a president engaged in a war and came out popular? Truman/Korea, LBJ/Vietnam, Bush/Iraq+Afghanistan - those all worked out terribly, and in more ways than just presidential popularity.

[HisGrace]

According to that surverymonkey poll, trump has seen a 11 point swing in his approval/disapproval spread since late august. If Hurricanes and "bipartisanship optics" will do that, can you imagine what a war with north korea would do? (at least in the short term?)

Hope he doesn't get any ideas. lol

There is no guarantee a war would help him. People have to see the war as necessary, and worth the cost. Further it's very doubtful a war with a country like North Korea would be painless. There would quickly be a lot of casualties and an eventual high cost. A shock to the global economy wouldn't be out of the picture, either. I mean really, when is the last time a president engaged in a war and came out popular? Truman/Korea, LBJ/Vietnam, Bush/Iraq+Afghanistan - those all worked out terribly, and in more ways than just presidential popularity.

No wartime president has ever lost an election, although LBJ likely would have lost in 68 if he ran. He'd certainly get a huge boost initially from a war (especially if NK attacked first) and then decline if it turned into a quagmire.

[Beet]

According to that surverymonkey poll, trump has seen a 11 point swing in his approval/disapproval spread since late august. If Hurricanes and "bipartisanship optics" will do that, can you imagine what a war with north korea would do? (at least in the short term?)

Hope he doesn't get any ideas. lol

There is no guarantee a war would help him. People have to see the war as necessary, and worth the cost. Further it's very doubtful a war with a country like North Korea would be painless. There would quickly be a lot of casualties and an eventual high cost. A shock to the global economy wouldn't be out of the picture, either. I mean really, when is the last time a president engaged in a war and came out popular? Truman/Korea, LBJ/Vietnam, Bush/Iraq+Afghanistan - those all worked out terribly, and in more ways than just presidential popularity.

No wartime president has ever lost an election, although LBJ likely would have lost in 68 if he ran. He'd certainly get a huge boost initially from a war (especially if NK attacked first) and then decline if it turned into a quagmire.

Harry Truman didn't lose re-election, but if he had run for another term he would have lost in a landslide, and his handpicked successor did. Ironically, that was the Korean War. LBJ also would have lost, as you said. If it's a quick war where we try to destroy North Korea's capabilities fast, as DoD surely hopes, then he could find himself in a G.W. Bush style situation. A war in 2020 would help him, but a war in 2017, 2018, or 2019 would not.

Also, people are forgetting that this is an economically important region. If South Korea and Japan are destroyed, the world will spiral into a depression, and that will override military jingoism very quick in the eyes of voters, since it impacts them directly.

Not to mention the long term impact on Trump's legacy of being responsible for the deaths of the most people since Hitler.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Yet another poll with a modest Trump bump: Harvard-Harris, Sep 17-20, 2177 RV (change from August)

Approve 45 (+2)
Disapprove 55 (-2)

[American2020]

SurveyMonkey weekly tracker, Sep 15-21

Approve 45 (+3) - Strongly 23 (nc)
Disapprove 53 (-2) - Strongly 40 (-2)

While those are generally good numbers for him 23 strongly approve vs 40 strongly disapprove (out of 53 percent disapproving) doesn't bode well for his long term prospects.

The economy is not yet on troubles. It could come.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2017-09-22/donald-trumps-presidency-is-hurting-american-business-and-economic-growth

[136or142]

In all this about the Trump approval ratings and whether 45% approval would be enough to get him a second term, don't forget that Trump won in 2016 in part because many Democrats weren't very enthusiastic in opposition to him.  I would not expect that to be the case in 2020.

ETA:  There seems to be an increasing realization with many Republican 'never Trumpers' that they also need to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020 to get ensure the defeat of Trump.

[Adam Griffin]

Bad (or sick) country!

[Virginiá]

Is this all you guys do?

Yes

I don't even sleep. I just refresh Gallup and consume energy drinks.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Gallup, 9/22:

Approve 37 (-1)
Disapprove 56 (nc)

[American2020]

Trump is losing supporters, even in deeply red states.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/trump-lost-most-support-states-november-2016.html/?a=viewall

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/09/21/only-63-of-republicans-want-donald-trump-to-stand-in-2020-says-p/

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-cowardly-uninspiring-inconsistent-americans-154259052.html

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Real News Poll:

Trump

Approval: 70%
Disapproval: 28% (California)


(Being real... Trump's approval likely isn't going to change for a while. You guys shouldn't obsess over it lol.)