Trump approval ratings thread 1.1

[Crumpets]

At this point, even I disapprove.

May I ask why?

Ultimately, it is for the same reason I turned on Obama after Orlando - the sheer insensitivity of his response was enough to push me over the edge and accept the tides that had been turning in my head for a while now. I still believe he has been treated unfairly by the media, and I am willing to be supportive of him where I agree, but I don't feel any need to actively defend someone who obviously doesn't care about me, or anyone but himself, for that matter.

Could you elaborate on what it was about Obama's response to Orlando that you thought was insensitive? I honestly don't remember what his reaction was, but just looking up his statement, it wasn't anything dramatically different from what you'd expect under the circumstances - calling it an act of terror, deploying federal agencies to work with local ones - is it just that it was a level political response rather than an emotional appeal?

[Crumpets]

Also FTR, today is the first day Trump hit -20 net approval on RCP.

[pbrower2a]

Figuring that we some of the polling is three-day composites... things could get worse for approval ratings.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Also FTR, today is the first day Trump hit -20 net approval on RCP.

Up until this recent dive, he'd been stable, drifting around -15 net at RCP since mid-May. I'm hoping his popularity will continue to dive, but suspect we'll just hit another metastable point. The question is how low it will be.

[Santander]

At this point, even I disapprove.

May I ask why?

Ultimately, it is for the same reason I turned on Obama after Orlando - the sheer insensitivity of his response was enough to push me over the edge and accept the tides that had been turning in my head for a while now. I still believe he has been treated unfairly by the media, and I am willing to be supportive of him where I agree, but I don't feel any need to actively defend someone who obviously doesn't care about me, or anyone but himself, for that matter.

Could you elaborate on what it was about Obama's response to Orlando that you thought was insensitive? I honestly don't remember what his reaction was, but just looking up his statement, it wasn't anything dramatically different from what you'd expect under the circumstances - calling it an act of terror, deploying federal agencies to work with local ones - is it just that it was a level political response rather than an emotional appeal?

He managed to bring Sandy Hook and other shootings into a statement which was supposed to be a response to an Islamic terrorist attack, and focused his speech on gun control, not terrorism. He later said the debate over his refusal to say "radical Islam" was a distraction. It may not seem that bad in retrospect, but remember how hot the political temperature was at that time last year.

[Virginiá]

Those indie numbers are incredible!

[Mike Thick]

Those indie numbers are incredible!

I think the Republican numbers are even more astonishing, to be honest. Makes me think that the ARG poll showing Kasich ahead in a primary might actually be accurate...

[President Johnson]

LOL. I actually expected Trump to improve with the NK crisis because people usually rally behind their leader in such times. But likely that most Americans actually blame him for the situation, since he had a very poor performance there (or anywhere).

[Beet]

LOL. I actually expected Trump to improve with the NK crisis because people usually rally behind their leader in such times. But likely that most Americans actually blame him for the situation, since he had a very poor performance there (or anywhere).

Justin Trudeau had a good performance with NK. He sent a high-level official there for diplomacy and secured the release of Canada's only prisoner. This success was ignored by the U.S. I didn't even see it on the front page of the WaPo or NY Times.

[GeorgiaModerate]

LOL. I actually expected Trump to improve with the NK crisis because people usually rally behind their leader in such times. But likely that most Americans actually blame him for the situation, since he had a very poor performance there (or anywhere).

Justin Trudeau had a good performance with NK. He sent a high-level official there for diplomacy and secured the release of Canada's only prisoner. This success was ignored by the U.S. I didn't even see it on the front page of the WaPo or NY Times.

I don't know about the WaPo or NYT, but I did see it on CNN at the time: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/asia/north-korea-canada-pastor-hyeon-soo-lim/index.html

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

LOL. I actually expected Trump to improve with the NK crisis because people usually rally behind their leader in such times. But likely that most Americans actually blame him for the situation, since he had a very poor performance there (or anywhere).

It seems that every time there is an opportunity for Trump to boost his approval rating, he manages to f*** it up by doing something completely stupid and unrelated.

[Middle-aged Europe]

LOL. I actually expected Trump to improve with the NK crisis because people usually rally behind their leader in such times. But likely that most Americans actually blame him for the situation, since he had a very poor performance there (or anywhere).

Trump practically created that crisis in the first place. It was just to obivous a ploy. People don't buy that.

[Brittain33]

Trump had a 4-point drop in approval in the West in week of Aug. 7-13 vs. the previous week, a bigger drop than anywhere else in the country. They may be more sensitive to warmongering vs. North Korea!

[Beet]

Trump had a 4-point drop in approval in the West in week of Aug. 7-13 vs. the previous week, a bigger drop than anywhere else in the country. They may be more sensitive to warmongering vs. North Korea!

I thought they'd be thrilled to find out firsthand if a nuclear tipped Hwasong-14 really can survive re-entry.

[Adam Griffin]

Approval on...

Group	Day 1	Today	Change
HS Grads	48%	37%	-11
College Grads	42%	33%	-9
Republicans	89%	79%	-10
Moderates	41%	30%	-11
<$25k	36%	28%	-8
>$100k	49%	38%	-11
South	48%	42%	-6
Midwest	50%	37%	-13

[Dr. Arch]

That Midwest number should be sending danger signals.

[mileslunn]

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Donald Trump is the greatest ever at getting past 60%. It's unbelievable.

Ah but Trump will claim the polls are phony and rigged and he is wildly popular.  Sadly much of his base swallows everything he says even if untrue.

[Mike Thick]

Lowkey, I've always kind of wondered what would happen if someone set up their own version of Overtime Politics and just made up polling that showed Trump with 60% approvals, R+10 on the generic ballot, etc. How many r/T_D types would latch onto that because they have nothing else at this point?

[emailking]

He'd probably tweet it out himself.

[Virginiá]

He'd probably tweet it out himself.

Actually, there is a very good chance that would actually happen. He desperately latches onto anything that makes him look good, and with that desperation can come grievous mistakes.

If someone bought a domain, made a basic-but-realistic website and start doing that, there is a very good opportunity for a prank that makes national news

[Don Vito Corleone]

By god.... The House election is gonna be a bloodbath.

[Adam Griffin]

Some other interesting cross-tabs from Gallup:

Approval on...

Group	Day 1	Today	Change
Weekly Churchgoers	54%	43%	-9
Liberal Republicans	75%	62%	-13
Conservative Republicans	92%	83%	-9
65+	53%	43%	-10
West	38%	28%	-10
East	41%	33%	-8
Married	52%	42%	-10
Pure Indies	34%	25%	-9
Whites	56%	46%	-10

What's really amazing here is the absurd uniformity across all groups: almost every group shows his approval has dropped from 8-11 points, whether it's groups that strongly supported him, strongly opposed him or were lukewarm either way.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

By god.... The House election is gonna be a bloodbath.

Unfortunately not. The House is so gerrymandered that at best the Democrats barely regain nominal control of the House.

[Don Vito Corleone]

By god.... The House election is gonna be a bloodbath.

Unfortunately not. The House is so gerrymandered that at best the Democrats barely regain nominal control of the House.

If it's at 34% now, imagine how low it will be in by the midterms, especially if the Government shuts down over wall funding.

[Daniel909012]

By god.... The House election is gonna be a bloodbath.

Unfortunately not. The House is so gerrymandered that at best the Democrats barely regain nominal control of the House.

If it's at 34% now, imagine how low it will be in by the midterms, especially if the Government shuts down over wall funding.

Your approval will return to normal in a week, do not let your fantasies cloud your mind