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« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2017, 05:32:12 PM »

too many sources.

may i remind everyone how sceptical wapo/nyt were about the trump-russia-thing?

and erickson suggets this thing is "known" in the inner media circles since days and was waiting for confirmation...
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« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2017, 05:32:24 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.
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« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2017, 05:33:03 PM »

Apparently, McMaster said Trump did not reveal any classified info.  He was in the room, as well.

Nope, he chose his words carefully and described other things Trump didn't reveal, like current military operations. I've highlighted in bold what he specified.

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McMaster says Trump did not reveal:
  • Sources
  • Methods
  • Military options that were not disclosed publicly

Plenty of classified information falls outside of those categories.

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« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2017, 05:33:41 PM »

It's sad. The 2016 election was just sad.
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« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2017, 05:35:25 PM »

It's sad. The 2016 election was just sad.

I don't often agree with you, but I do on this one.  If it was an NFL game, it would be the Browns vs the 49ers.
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« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2017, 05:35:49 PM »

those denials are worthless...they are more or less confirming the thing itself.
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« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2017, 05:37:31 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.
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« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2017, 05:39:12 PM »

New York Times is also confirming this story-per CNN cable.

For what it's worth so has Buzzfeed.
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« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2017, 05:39:26 PM »

Per MSNBC...Israel is the source of the intel that Trump leaked

Right after an administration official dissed the Western Wall? Hoh boy.
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« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2017, 05:41:30 PM »

Per MSNBC...Israel is the source of the intel that Trump leaked

Right after an administration official dissed the Western Wall? Hoh boy.

Is this about Israel having nukes? Because that's the biggest open secret ever.
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« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2017, 05:41:58 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.
if, for example, a.h.c.a. passes that's tens of thousands of people dead per year. get your useless head out of the sand.
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« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2017, 05:45:17 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.
if, for example, a.h.c.a. passes that's tens of thousands of people dead per year. get your useless head out of the sand.

Under that logic, can I blame democratic immigration policy for the deaths of people who were hit by unlicensed undocumented immigrants?
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« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2017, 05:45:57 PM »

IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2017, 05:46:51 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.

I don't think I've seen a Presidential election yet (and that goes back to 1964, although I didn't start following politics seriously until '68) where the losing side didn't predict the imminent demise of the Republic.  Remember all those on the right who were convinced that if Obama won in 2008, that would be the last election?  And that if he was re-elected in 2012, that one would be the last?

However, I'll grant that Trump, due to his general lack of competence and experience, has a greater likelihood of destabilizing the world than any of his predecessors in recent decades.
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« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2017, 05:47:10 PM »

The story is everywhere now. MSNBC, CNN, and even FOX.
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« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2017, 05:47:20 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.
if, for example, a.h.c.a. passes that's tens of thousands of people dead per year. get your useless head out of the sand.

Under that logic, can I blame democratic immigration policy for the deaths of people who were hit by unlicensed undocumented immigrants?
try harder
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« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2017, 05:48:03 PM »

Can the whataboutery be kept to a minimum please?
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« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2017, 05:48:32 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.

I don't think I've seen a Presidential election yet (and that goes back to 1964, although I didn't start following politics seriously until '68) where the losing side didn't predict the imminent demise of the Republic.  Remember all those on the right who were convinced that if Obama won in 2008, that would be the last election?  And that if he was re-elected in 2012, that one would be the last?

However, I'll grant that Trump, due to his general lack of competence and experience, has a greater likelihood of destabilizing the world than any of his predecessors in recent decades.

I guess that's fair, but some of y'all forget that the president is but one man, and that society has a power in it separate from the state. If a president was ever so horrible that the world started to crumble, we have methods of removal.
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« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2017, 05:49:05 PM »

The story is everywhere now. MSNBC, CNN, and even FOX.
It's news. Of course they're going to cover it.  That's why it's called Fox NEWS.
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« Reply #94 on: May 15, 2017, 05:49:07 PM »

Can the whataboutery be kept to a minimum please?

What about when Hillary Clinton deflected questions about her paid Wall Street speeches by calling Trump a racist? Huh?!? HUH?!?!?!
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« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2017, 05:49:32 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.

You are missing the point, you ****ing idiot.

He is destroying the US credibility and damaging our institutions. No country is ever going to fully trust the US again after this administration.

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« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2017, 05:49:55 PM »

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« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2017, 05:50:29 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.
if, for example, a.h.c.a. passes that's tens of thousands of people dead per year. get your useless head out of the sand.

Under that logic, can I blame democratic immigration policy for the deaths of people who were hit by unlicensed undocumented immigrants?
try harder

It's ridiculous to assume that people will "die" because the government does not do this or that. In reality, why should we blame government for the deaths of those without healthcare and not people who refuse to be charitable. Why does government deserve blame but private citizens do not? Philosophically, why is one more liable?
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« Reply #98 on: May 15, 2017, 05:50:47 PM »

The only good thing about this is watching R's spin in circles trying to defend him.

If we survive the Trump era, there a whole lot of people who should never be taking seriously ever again.

"If we survive".... really? It's stuff like this that is why so many people don't take seriously some of you guys. It's one thing to oppose trump and his worldview and policies, it's another thing to delude yourselves into thinking the world will be on fire and we're all going to die because of one man. It's paranoia and frankly unhealthy. That's schizophrenia.

You are missing the point, you ****ing idiot.

He is destroying the US credibility and damaging our institutions. No country is ever going to fully trust the US again after this administration.


Surprising considering Obama abandoned Israel and essentially handed Iran nukes and money.
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« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2017, 05:51:07 PM »

The story is everywhere now. MSNBC, CNN, and even FOX.
It's news. Of course they're going to cover it.  That's why it's called Fox NEWS.

you are not often watching FN, are you?
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