French Legislative Election 2017

[mvd10]

LREM's policies are simply more of the same stuff that every government since 2002 has pursued. So if you think those governments were failures, I don't know what you're expecting.

Yeah, you're completely right. They should have elected Fillon.

But seriously, did Chirac, Hollande and Sarkozy attempt deregulation on the scale that Macron is promoting now? As far as I know Sarkozy abandoned his agenda two weeks in the presidency (instead focusing on unpaid tax cuts and some minor deregulation until the crisis hit) while Chirac didn't really do much either. And Hollande's labour reforms also were pretty minor even though you would think that he tried to return to gilded age standards judging the protests (people over here only would go to the streets on that scale if that were the case lol).

[Andrea]

Results from the Outre-mère territories that voted yesterday

St Pierre et Miquelon: minister Annick Girardin (PRG but obviously backed by REM) survives. She wins the run off with 51.87%


Martinique 1: Josette Manin (DVG) 54.85% Philippe Edmond-Mariette (sans étiquette) 45.15%
First female MP elected in Martinique
Martinique 3: Serge Letchimy (DVG, incumbent) 73.94% Francis Carole (Palima) 26,06%.
Martinique 2: Bruno Nestor Azerot (DVG, incumbent) 55.78% Lorrain (Ensemble Pour une Martinique Nouvelle) 44,22%
Martinique 4: Jean-Philippe Nilor  (Mouvement indépendantiste martiniquais; incumbent) 68.09% Sylvia Saïthsoothane (Les Républicains) 31,91%

Guyane 1 : Gabriel Serville (Partie Socialiste Guynaise, incumbent)  51.3% Joëlle Prévot-Madère (REM) 48.7%
Guyane 2: Lenaïck Adam (REM) 50.22% Davy Rimane (Pou Lagwiyann Dékolé) 49.78%

Guadeloupe 1:  Olivier Serva (REM)  61.74% Rosan Rauzduel (DVG) 38.26%
Guadeloupe 2:  Justine Benin (DVG) 64.26% Diana Perran (REM) 35.74%
Guadeloupe 3: Max Mathiasin (DVG) 65.15% Nestor Luce (DVG+REM) 34.85%
Guadeloupe 4: Hélène Vainqueur-Christophe (PS) 61,61% Aramis Arbau (DVD) 38.39%

Saint-Barthélemy et Saint-Martin: Claire Javois (Les Républicains) 54,73% Inès Bouchaut-Choisy (REM) 45.27%

[Tintrlvr]

LREM is just another right-wing party, don't get all drama queen.

Girardin seems to have survived in Saint-Pierre et Miquelon, but just.

"Everyone to my right is a right-winger!"

well LREM ran on the same right-wing labor reforms that basically sent PS to single digit approval ratings, so...

It's not right-wing to reform labor markets when your labor market is as stultified as France's.

[Tender Branson]

Turnout until 12:00 was even lower than in the 1st round, with only 17.8% (1st round: 19.2%)

Probably not more than 44-45% will vote today ... a new record low.

[Gustaf]

France is in dire need of labour market reform. Spending tons of tax money to prop up entrenched public employees isn't really left-wing if the term is supposed to refer to promoting equality and helping the poor.

One question that's been bothering me the whole campaign. I don't understand how official these DVG/DVD labels are. They're not on the actual ballots right?

[jaichind]

Turnout until 12:00 was even lower than in the 1st round, with only 17.8% (1st round: 19.2%)

Probably not more than 44-45% will vote today ... a new record low.

Wow.  I was guessing that LREM will under-perform (perhaps not even reaching 400 seats) because both core Right, core Left, and core FN voters will come out and if necessary tactically vote to slow down LREM.  I guess not. 

[parochial boy]

One question that's been bothering me the whole campaign. I don't understand how official these DVG/DVD labels are. They're not on the actual ballots right?

Official labels as set by the interior ministry I believe.
Looking into it a bit, it appears that the labels aren't exactly always well received.

[Intell]

Marcon is actually making Thatcherism acceptable in France is he not?

[warandwar]

LREM is just another right-wing party, don't get all drama queen.

Girardin seems to have survived in Saint-Pierre et Miquelon, but just.

"Everyone to my right is a right-winger!"

well LREM ran on the same right-wing labor reforms that basically sent PS to single digit approval ratings, so...

It's not right-wing to reform labor markets when your labor market is as stultified as France's.

Yes it is. Destroying workplace democracy is a right-wing position.

[mvd10]

Marcon is actually making Thatcherism acceptable in France is he not?

Macron's agenda is more ambitious than what the previous presidents tried, but it's by no means Thatcherism. Macron actually wants to pass a temporary stimulus package and he criticized Fillon's program for being too right-wing ("purging a country against it's own will). If Macron is a Thatcherite, what do we call Fillon? What Macron wants to do to France is more similar to what Schröder and Merkel did to Germany than what Thatcher did to the UK.

LREM is just another right-wing party, don't get all drama queen.

Girardin seems to have survived in Saint-Pierre et Miquelon, but just.

"Everyone to my right is a right-winger!"

well LREM ran on the same right-wing labor reforms that basically sent PS to single digit approval ratings, so...

It's not right-wing to reform labor markets when your labor market is as stultified as France's.

Yes it is. Destroying workplace democracy is a right-wing position.

Do you have any idea about heavily regulated the French labour market is? Even Paul Krugman thinks European governments should deregulate their labour markets and the French labour market is much more regulated than your average European labour market. But Paul Krugman obviously is a raging Thatcherite. My bad.

[Tirnam]

Ipsos final turnout estimate: 43%. European election level.

[DavidB.]

Ipsos final turnout estimate: 43%. European election level.

Good. Will draw attention to how farcical this system is.

[jaichind]

Will there be leaked exit polls at 7pm ?

[rob in cal]

   The real question is, what % of total seats will be won by the 67% of the electorate who did not vote for FBM candidates in the first round.  What a contrast the final results will be in terms of seats vs the French European Parliament delegation which is elected by PR.

[warandwar]

Marcon is actually making Thatcherism acceptable in France is he not?

Macron's agenda is more ambitious than what the previous presidents tried, but it's by no means Thatcherism. Macron actually wants to pass a temporary stimulus package and he criticized Fillon's program for being too right-wing ("purging a country against it's own will). If Macron is a Thatcherite, what do we call Fillon? What Macron wants to do to France is more similar to what Schröder and Merkel did to Germany than what Thatcher did to the UK.

LREM is just another right-wing party, don't get all drama queen.

Girardin seems to have survived in Saint-Pierre et Miquelon, but just.

"Everyone to my right is a right-winger!"

well LREM ran on the same right-wing labor reforms that basically sent PS to single digit approval ratings, so...

It's not right-wing to reform labor markets when your labor market is as stultified as France's.

Yes it is. Destroying workplace democracy is a right-wing position.

Do you have any idea about heavily regulated the French labour market is? Even Paul Krugman thinks European governments should deregulate their labour markets and the French labour market is much more regulated than your average European labour market. But Paul Krugman obviously is a raging Thatcherite. My bad.

Paul Krugman is very much a neoliberal. I'm not surprised he would think that. I'm a Marxist, I believe that the labor struggle is central to emancipation. Why would I believe in "deregulation?"

PS: Interesting article in Viewpoint about all of this

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Ipsos final turnout estimate: 43%. European election level.

In Poland European election level is ca. 25% so still it could be worse.

[Andrea]

La Reunion

1: Ericka Bareigts (PS) elected
2: Huguette Bello (DVG) re-elected
3: Nathalie Bassire (Les Republicains) elected
4:     David Lorion (Les Republicains) elected
5: Jean-Hugues Rateno ((Rézistans Égalité 974, they are on the left, they backed Melenchon in the presidential elections) elected (he was 12 points behind Les Republicans in the first round)
6: Nadia Ramassam (Les Republicans) with 53.6% beats the REM candidate who was leading in the first round
7:  Thierry Robert re-elected

[TheSaint250]

LREM is just another right-wing party, don't get all drama queen.

Girardin seems to have survived in Saint-Pierre et Miquelon, but just.

"Everyone to my right is a right-winger!"

You must be logged in to read this quote.

not right-wing at all imo

Wow you actually just made me like him that much more

[mvd10]

LREM is just another right-wing party, don't get all drama queen.

Girardin seems to have survived in Saint-Pierre et Miquelon, but just.

"Everyone to my right is a right-winger!"

You must be logged in to read this quote.

not right-wing at all imo

Wow you actually just made me like him that much more

Fillon pledged €50 billion in tax cuts and €100 billion in spending cuts including cutting 500,000 public sector jobs. Why did you have to be so corrupt François, you could have made France great again ...

[Tender Branson]

Franceinfo has a regional turnout map for 17:00 and areas that already went to Macron in round 1 during the Presidential and Legislative elections have "high" turnout. FN areas in the North-(East) have low turnout.

Nothing really surprising ... Macron-folks were motivated to vote today, everyone else stayed home.

450+ seats here we go.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Joke country. Again, England should have won the 100-year war.

[Andrea]

Jean Paul Lecoq (PCF) leading 55-45% against the REM candidate in Seine Maritime 08 after 54 out of 56 bureaux. He had only 3 points lead in first round.

PCF is set to hold Nord 20 but they were in the run off with FN.

[mvd10]

So, is there any chance a part of Macron's deputies will revolt if Macron's economic agenda becomes unpopular? Or does France have very strong party discipline?

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, is there any chance a part of Macron's deputies will revolt if Macron's economic agenda becomes unpopular? Or does France have very strong party discipline?

I mean, LREM candidates are complete nobodies with no party experience, so party tradition would be pretty irrelevant.

[Tirnam]

There are "some surprises" TF1 and France 2 say.