CA-12 2018: Democrat Stephen Jaffe announces primary challenge to Pelosi

[Gass3268]

Pelosi's only real job at this point is to stand in the way of new leadership coming into power (in hindsight, Tim Ryan really should've been elected House leader), so I'm all for a primary challenge.

If she retired or lost Hoyer would become leader. Would you really want that over Pelosi?

[Mr. Smith]

Pelosi's only real job at this point is to stand in the way of new leadership coming into power (in hindsight, Tim Ryan really should've been elected House leader), so I'm all for a primary challenge.

If she retired or lost Hoyer would become leader. Would you really want that over Pelosi?

How would Hoyer be leader if Ryan got elected?

[Gass3268]

Pelosi's only real job at this point is to stand in the way of new leadership coming into power (in hindsight, Tim Ryan really should've been elected House leader), so I'm all for a primary challenge.

If she retired or lost Hoyer would become leader. Would you really want that over Pelosi?

How would Hoyer be leader if Ryan got elected?

As of now Hoyer would beat Ryan.

[SoLongAtlas]

Loses outright or loses in a runoff. Pelosi is there for life or retirement.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I'm so tired of Nancy Pelosi. Endorsed. None the less, Pelosi will roast him like a bag of peanuts. I think he will cobble his way to a runoff though.

[Webnicz]

Pelosi will never understand that she is a huge liability for her own caucus. I am so tired of seeing "Liberal ______ sides with San Francisco Liberal Nancy Pelosi" in every chamber of commerce attack ad. John McCain used this well with Ann Kirkpatrick to dispel the idea she was a moderate.

I should state every GOP ad uses this effectively.

Immediate Endorsement

[publicunofficial]

The night Eric Cantor lost his primary was probably the funnest election night of the past four years. The only way I can imagine it being funner is if the same scenario happens to a Democrat.

[Vosem]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

[I’m not Stu]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

Maybe. But Tim Ryan might become Speaker.

[publicunofficial]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

The ideal scenario is Hoyer loses in a primary and it eases/scares Pelosi into retirement.

[smoltchanov]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

The ideal scenario is Hoyer loses in a primary and it eases/scares Pelosi into retirement.

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

[Sir Mohamed]

Probably run-off, that he'll lose 80-20%. However, as much as I respect Pelosi, I think she (and Feinstein) should retire by 2018.

[Shadows]

Pelosi was a good speaker & has done well for the Democratic party in many respects, so that stuff can't be discounted. And this shouldn't be about age though which is totally unfair! Pelosi maybe 77, but she is still fit enough to go & is working very hard. If an old person needs to step aside it's Dianne Feinstein !

But she is literally dragging 100's of candidates everywhere with her poor approvals & every attack ad is about being Pelosi's Yes man & puppet, etc. At this point of time she is more of a liability. I would understand if she is taking all the fall & you need a supposed bad guy but what does she add? She is a really poor & uninspiring orator too !

It is time for a guy like Tim Ryan to assume the House mantle from the working class areas of Ohio !

[publicunofficial]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

The ideal scenario is Hoyer loses in a primary and it eases/scares Pelosi into retirement.

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

The neoliberal Pelosi is an "ultra liberal" to smoltchanov. Funny. REALLY funny.

[smoltchanov]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

The ideal scenario is Hoyer loses in a primary and it eases/scares Pelosi into retirement.

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

The neoliberal Pelosi is an "ultra liberal" to smoltchanov. Funny. REALLY funny.

For me - absolutely. I am substantially more conservative then she is. But there is such thing as ratings. Pelosi always came in top 10-15% of most liberal Democratic congressmen in ANY ratings - liberal, conservative, whatever. It's only crazies like you may consider her to be anything else, but very liberal. You want to be crazy? Fine, it's YOUR choice...

[Sorenroy]

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

The neoliberal Pelosi is an "ultra liberal" to smoltchanov. Funny. REALLY funny.

For me - absolutely. I am substantially more conservative then she is. But there is such thing as ratings. Pelosi always came in top 10-15% of most liberal Democratic congressmen in ANY ratings - liberal, conservative, whatever. It's only crazies like you may consider her to be anything else, but very liberal. You want to be crazy? Fine, it's YOUR choice...

According to Govtrack, she was the 153rd most liberal member of the House in 2016.

Source: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2016/house/ideology



Also,

Endorsed anyway, but yeah, there's gonna be no run-off.

Uh, runoffs in CA happen regardless of if a candidate reaches 50%.

That's stupid. I can't see any reason for that to be the case, and I bet it costs a ton of money in noncompetitive districts.

[Duke of York]

This is a primary challenge that will go nowhere. do these people think if they win they will be the leader of the party. Thats not how it works.

[smoltchanov]

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

The neoliberal Pelosi is an "ultra liberal" to smoltchanov. Funny. REALLY funny.

For me - absolutely. I am substantially more conservative then she is. But there is such thing as ratings. Pelosi always came in top 10-15% of most liberal Democratic congressmen in ANY ratings - liberal, conservative, whatever. It's only crazies like you may consider her to be anything else, but very liberal. You want to be crazy? Fine, it's YOUR choice...

According to Govtrack, she was the 153rd most liberal member of the House in 2016.

Source: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2016/house/ideology



Also,

Endorsed anyway, but yeah, there's gonna be no run-off.

Uh, runoffs in CA happen regardless of if a candidate reaches 50%.

That's stupid. I can't see any reason for that to be the case, and I bet it costs a ton of money in noncompetitive districts.

More conservative then Scott Peters and Patrick Murphy??? I had very good laugh....

[smoltchanov]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

The ideal scenario is Hoyer loses in a primary and it eases/scares Pelosi into retirement.

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

The neoliberal Pelosi is an "ultra liberal" to smoltchanov. Funny. REALLY funny.

For me - absolutely. I am substantially more conservative then she is. But there is such thing as ratings. Pelosi always came in top 10-15% of most liberal Democratic congressmen in ANY ratings - liberal, conservative, whatever. It's only crazies like you may consider her to be anything else, but very liberal. You want to be crazy? Fine, it's YOUR choice...

Okay, since you're clearly having trouble in this department, I'll explain this to you in layman's terms: Pelosi is indeed a liberal; however, I am not a liberal, and find it unacceptable that someone who represents a hotbed of left-wing activism like San Francisco has a net worth of 100+ million dollars and can't even commit to Medicare for All.

So, anyone representing SF must be pauper and communist??

[This account no longer in use.]

Wait, Pelosi is 77? I thought she was younger for some reason.

[DrScholl]

In what world is Pelosi not liberal enough? This idea of connecting ideology to income is silly, since some of the poorest members of the House are quite conservative. Raul Labrador has a negative net worth, but he still voted for AHCA and insisted that no one dies because of lack of health care.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

In what world is Pelosi not liberal enough? This idea of connecting ideology to income is silly, since some of the poorest members of the House are quite conservative. Raul Labrador has a negative net worth, but he still voted for AHCA and insisted that no one dies because of lack of health care.

Remember that Pelosi said this:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/317639-pelosi-town-hall-question-on-capitalism-wasnt-planned-report%3Famp

[smoltchanov]

Especially considering California's Top-Two system, it would be really amusing if the Democrats take the House but Pelosi is primaried on the same night. What happens next? Would Hoyer's dream of attaining the Speakership finally be within his grasp?

Not that Pelosi is in any real danger from this.

The ideal scenario is Hoyer loses in a primary and it eases/scares Pelosi into retirement.

Even ultraliberal Pelosi is "not enough" for present day Democrats. Funny. REALLY funny.

The neoliberal Pelosi is an "ultra liberal" to smoltchanov. Funny. REALLY funny.

For me - absolutely. I am substantially more conservative then she is. But there is such thing as ratings. Pelosi always came in top 10-15% of most liberal Democratic congressmen in ANY ratings - liberal, conservative, whatever. It's only crazies like you may consider her to be anything else, but very liberal. You want to be crazy? Fine, it's YOUR choice...

Okay, since you're clearly having trouble in this department, I'll explain this to you in layman's terms: Pelosi is indeed a liberal; however, I am not a liberal, and find it unacceptable that someone who represents a hotbed of left-wing activism like San Francisco has a net worth of 100+ million dollars and can't even commit to Medicare for All.

So, anyone representing SF must be pauper and communist??

Having less than 100 million dollars makes one a "pauper"? Supporting universal healthcare makes one a "communist"? My god, arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.

Don't argue then. I have a brick-solid set of convictions))))

[smoltchanov]

In what world is Pelosi not liberal enough? This idea of connecting ideology to income is silly, since some of the poorest members of the House are quite conservative. Raul Labrador has a negative net worth, but he still voted for AHCA and insisted that no one dies because of lack of health care.

Remember that Pelosi said this:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/317639-pelosi-town-hall-question-on-capitalism-wasnt-planned-report%3Famp

And i fully support her on this. I am capitalist too.... "Socialism" is a dirty word among Russians, who spent some time in the West. "Communism" - even more.

[Beet]

Why is it always a male progressive challenging a female centrist? Of all the candidates we have been asked to support since November

Ellison
Jaffe
Eisen
Ossoff
Mello
Quist
Carmona (until the very end)

All men. Do progressives think women can't win since Hillary lost?