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« Reply #1125 on: January 07, 2018, 01:00:15 AM »
« edited: January 07, 2018, 01:11:49 AM by smoltchanov »

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What do these two years have in common?

Both were very bad for Democrats. Many of whom expected only moderate losses in 2010, and even small gains in 2014. It's enough to read what was written on DKE, for example, immediately before these two election nights. Most of site  "gurus" expectations were precisely as i described above. And then, after bleak results -  usual "f**k this night!", "dumb voters", and so on...
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« Reply #1126 on: January 07, 2018, 03:29:30 AM »

Democrats outperformed polls in 2011. And of course Virginia and Alabama.
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« Reply #1127 on: January 07, 2018, 03:31:00 AM »

And often polling errors are the opposite to the expected polling error-Corbyn was supposedly overestimated by the polls, but was in fact underestimated, and people thought there'd be a pro-Clinton polling error.
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« Reply #1128 on: January 07, 2018, 03:43:07 AM »

Democrats outperformed polls in 2011. And of course Virginia and Alabama.

In odd years - yes. In midterms - the last time it was  (may be) in 2006, during Iraq war. If Trump begins a war (especially - with weak chances for rapid victory) - then sure. If not - not so sure.
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« Reply #1129 on: January 07, 2018, 06:59:55 AM »

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What do these two years have in common?

Both were very bad for Democrats. Many of whom expected only moderate losses in 2010, and even small gains in 2014. It's enough to read what was written on DKE, for example, immediately before these two election nights. Most of site  "gurus" expectations were precisely as i described above. And then, after bleak results -  usual "f**k this night!", "dumb voters", and so on...
You missed his point, Obama was in the WH during those two years and the last time the dems did well in a midterm was when Bush was in the WH. The point being midterms are bad for the party in the WH which is rep right now
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« Reply #1130 on: January 07, 2018, 09:08:46 AM »

Bush had an approval rating in the high 30s approval rating prior to the 2006 midterms(http://news.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx). Trump's current approval rating is basically at a similar level in the high 30s right now(https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/, https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#!) And Presidents tend to get less popular in their second year, not more.
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« Reply #1131 on: January 07, 2018, 10:08:17 AM »

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What do these two years have in common?

Both were very bad for Democrats. Many of whom expected only moderate losses in 2010, and even small gains in 2014. It's enough to read what was written on DKE, for example, immediately before these two election nights. Most of site  "gurus" expectations were precisely as i described above. And then, after bleak results -  usual "f**k this night!", "dumb voters", and so on...
You missed his point, Obama was in the WH during those two years and the last time the dems did well in a midterm was when Bush was in the WH. The point being midterms are bad for the party in the WH which is rep right now

I know all that. Without Trump Democrats wouldn't have any chances, and could expect monumental losses in Senate. So, Trump is a "Democratic blessing" to some extent. And still, for example, minority turnout usually falls substantially in midterms, and it's this turnout which became so important for Democrats in the last decade, that one can speak about some sort of "addiction". Without it Democrats have no chances at all in most elections.
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« Reply #1132 on: January 07, 2018, 10:13:19 AM »

Trump's base also may be less likely to turn out though(and minorities turned out in Alabama).
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/2018-could-be-the-year-of-the-angry-white-college-graduate/
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« Reply #1133 on: January 07, 2018, 10:18:07 AM »


May be. But i don't think that Alabama is good example. Republicans will NOT have Roy Moore in every state. Most likely - they will not have even one "Roy Moore" among their candidates. He is unique. Only he could lose a Senate seat in Alabama for Republicans. Mad dog with "R" after name could win it.
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« Reply #1134 on: January 07, 2018, 10:29:24 AM »


May be. But i don't think that Alabama is good example. Republicans will NOT have Roy Moore in every state. Most likely - they will not have even one "Roy Moore" among their candidates. He is unique. Only he could lose a Senate seat in Alabama for Republicans. Mad dog with "R" after name could win it.

Most Republicans wouldn't have won by around 30 points like Trump did, so even if they won by 20 or 15 points in a normal race that's still a 10-15 swing against them and would indicate a pro-Democrat environment.
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« Reply #1135 on: January 07, 2018, 10:29:42 AM »


May be. But i don't think that Alabama is good example. Republicans will NOT have Roy Moore in every state. Most likely - they will not have even one "Roy Moore" among their candidates. He is unique. Only he could lose a Senate seat in Alabama for Republicans. Mad dog with "R" after name could win it.

And Democrats didn't have Martha Coakley in every state in 2010.
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« Reply #1136 on: January 07, 2018, 10:32:22 AM »


May be. But i don't think that Alabama is good example. Republicans will NOT have Roy Moore in every state. Most likely - they will not have even one "Roy Moore" among their candidates. He is unique. Only he could lose a Senate seat in Alabama for Republicans. Mad dog with "R" after name could win it.

And Democrats didn't have Martha Coakley in every state in 2010.

Coakley is simply bad politician. That happens. Moore is absolutely unique.
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« Reply #1137 on: January 07, 2018, 10:39:46 AM »


May be. But i don't think that Alabama is good example. Republicans will NOT have Roy Moore in every state. Most likely - they will not have even one "Roy Moore" among their candidates. He is unique. Only he could lose a Senate seat in Alabama for Republicans. Mad dog with "R" after name could win it.

And Democrats didn't have Martha Coakley in every state in 2010.

Coakley is simply bad politician. That happens. Moore is absolutely unique.

They also had Ed Gillespie in Virginia and he suffered the biggest Republican loss in 30 years.
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« Reply #1138 on: January 07, 2018, 10:51:01 AM »

Coakley is simply bad politician. That happens. Moore is absolutely unique.

Republicans have the biggest Roy Moore of them all at the top of their ticket, even if he's not literally on the ballot.
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« Reply #1139 on: January 07, 2018, 10:58:16 AM »
« Edited: January 07, 2018, 11:00:44 AM by smoltchanov »

Anyone else kinda annoyed by Russian moderates who love "mavericks" trying to preach to everyone else about American politics

Who forces you to read my posts? Ignore lists exist. BTW,  i would be only glad if you would know as much about Russian politics as i know about American. As long as this is NOT "the site for Americans only", blocking other based on their geographic location - i am free to express my opinions, and agree or disagree with other's arguments. As i mentioned sometimes - my friend, who is University professor in North Carolina, was of very high opinion about my knowledge))))). And my American relatives still ask my opinion before going to vote))))
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« Reply #1140 on: January 07, 2018, 11:02:54 AM »

Coakley is simply bad politician. That happens. Moore is absolutely unique.

Republicans have the biggest Roy Moore of them all at the top of their ticket, even if he's not literally on the ballot.

We will see. IF he will be as bad as Roy Moore was (so far - close, but - not yet), and IF Democrats will be able to nationalize all races - then, may be...
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« Reply #1141 on: January 07, 2018, 11:18:38 AM »

Coakley is simply bad politician. That happens. Moore is absolutely unique.

Republicans have the biggest Roy Moore of them all at the top of their ticket, even if he's not literally on the ballot.

We will see. IF he will be as bad as Roy Moore was (so far - close, but - not yet), and IF Democrats will be able to nationalize all races - then, may be...

There is no if. After 2006 all midterms have been nationalized.
It's the norm in the era of internet.
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« Reply #1142 on: January 07, 2018, 12:18:44 PM »

All of the congressional generic ballot polling data per The Roper Center going back to 1963:



Obvious Blue Wave is obvious
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« Reply #1143 on: January 07, 2018, 03:04:11 PM »

Anyone else kinda annoyed by Russian moderates who love "mavericks" trying to preach to everyone else about American politics

Yes, I have on my ignore list. He says some pretty awful stuff and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s being paid to troll online on sites like this.
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« Reply #1144 on: January 07, 2018, 03:26:18 PM »

All of the congressional generic ballot polling data per The Roper Center going back to 1963:



Obvious Blue Wave is obvious

Jesus, that post-Watergate reach to 70.
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« Reply #1145 on: January 08, 2018, 12:49:05 AM »

Anyone else kinda annoyed by Russian moderates who love "mavericks" trying to preach to everyone else about American politics

Yes, I have on my ignore list. He says some pretty awful stuff and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s being paid to troll online on sites like this.

You judge by yourself. Alas, i am not paid even a cent. And i would only welcome being on ignore list of people like you. For me it's a badge of honor....
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« Reply #1146 on: January 08, 2018, 12:20:41 PM »

Anyone else kinda annoyed by Russian moderates who love "mavericks" trying to preach to everyone else about American politics

Yes, I have on my ignore list. He says some pretty awful stuff and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s being paid to troll online on sites like this.

You judge by yourself. Alas, i am not paid even a cent. And i would only welcome being on ignore list of people like you. For me it's a badge of honor....

I'll make your day, then.
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« Reply #1147 on: January 08, 2018, 12:22:15 PM »

CA45: Katie Porter raises over $266,000 in the 4th Quarter. Over $500,000 cash on hand.

https://twitter.com/CA45_voter/status/950390318330871808
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« Reply #1148 on: January 08, 2018, 03:07:36 PM »

WI-06: Dan Kohl raised $329K in Q4, ends the year with $600K cash on hand.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/08/glenn-grotherman-challenger-dan-kohl-reports-raising-329-000-fourth-quarter/1013957001/
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« Reply #1149 on: January 08, 2018, 03:42:27 PM »

VA-02: Former Navy Veteran Elaine Luria is now officially in. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/retired-navy-commander-to-take-on-former-seal-for-house-seat/2018/01/08/8eae68be-f4a9-11e7-9af7-a50bc3300042_story.html?utm_term=.fc43c381d51a
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