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« Reply #1400 on: April 04, 2018, 08:58:47 AM »

History repeats itsself with the 2000-2016 cycle

2020

-> 2004 redux; incompetent GOP prez gets reeleted over MA liberal and NC running mate. MI flips back, a NH 200-04 redux.



✓ President Donald Trump (R-NY)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN): 311 EVs.; 48.8%
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Governor Roy Cooper (D-NC): 227 EVs.; 48.5%


2024

-> After eight years of a terrible GOPer, America makes once again history. Dem VP is an older senator with working-class appeal. 2008 redux.



✓ Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH): ~359 EVs.; 53.2%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Representative Dave Brat (R-VA): ~179 EVs.; 45.3%


2028

-> Dem prez gets reelected with slightly smaller margin. GOP candidates are again a former governor and representative considered a rising star. 2012 redux.



✓ President Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Vice President Sherrod Brown (D-OH): ~343 EVs.; 51.5%
Former Governor Scott Walker (R-WI)/Representative Elise Stefatik (R-NY): ~195 EVs.; 47.4%


2032

-> Dems again run an unpopular candidate against a 70 year old hard-right TV star, who was considered a joke. Democrat wins PV even wider than 2016.



✓ Moderator Sean Hannity (R-NY)/Senator Tom Cotton (D-AR): ~282 EVs.; 47.0%
Former Governor J.B. Pritzker (D-IL)/Senator Jacqiun Castro (D-TX): ~256 EVs.; 49.8%
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« Reply #1401 on: April 04, 2018, 11:36:18 AM »

History repeats itsself with the 2000-2016 cycle

2020

-> 2004 redux; incompetent GOP prez gets reeleted over MA liberal and NC running mate. MI flips back, a NH 200-04 redux.



✓ President Donald Trump (R-NY)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN): 311 EVs.; 48.8%
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Governor Roy Cooper (D-NC): 227 EVs.; 48.5%


2024

-> After eight years of a terrible GOPer, America makes once again history. Dem VP is an older senator with working-class appeal. 2008 redux.



✓ Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH): ~359 EVs.; 53.2%
Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Representative Dave Brat (R-VA): ~179 EVs.; 45.3%


2028

-> Dem prez gets reelected with slightly smaller margin. GOP candidates are again a former governor and representative considered a rising star. 2012 redux.



✓ President Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Vice President Sherrod Brown (D-OH): ~343 EVs.; 51.5%
Former Governor Scott Walker (R-WI)/Representative Elise Stefatik (R-NY): ~195 EVs.; 47.4%


2032

-> Dems again run an unpopular candidate against a 70 year old hard-right TV star, who was considered a joke. Democrat wins PV even wider than 2016.



✓ Moderator Sean Hannity (R-NY)/Senator Tom Cotton (D-AR): ~282 EVs.; 47.0%
Former Governor J.B. Pritzker (D-IL)/Senator Jacqiun Castro (D-TX): ~256 EVs.; 49.8%
This is a pretty realistic prediction of the next four presidential elections, except for the 2020 prediction, I’d flip Michigan and Minnesota to Trump, and Colorado to Warren.
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« Reply #1402 on: April 04, 2018, 02:33:10 PM »

Gordan Douglas Jones (D-AL) - 432 ✓
Roy Stewart Moore (R-AL) - 106


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« Reply #1403 on: April 04, 2018, 02:58:04 PM »

Gordan Douglas Jones (D-AL) - 432 ✓
Roy Stewart Moore (R-AL) - 106


This is more accurate IMO:



Moore only wins Oklahoma and the only states that are really competitive would be Alabama, Wyoming, and Idaho. Jones wins every state other than those 4 by double digits.
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« Reply #1404 on: April 04, 2018, 03:35:19 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2018, 03:41:48 PM by MP KoopaDaQuick »

Gordan Douglas Jones (D-AL) - 470 ✓
Roy Stewart Moore (R-AL) - 58


This is more accurate IMO:



Moore only wins Oklahoma and the only states that are really competitive would be Alabama, Wyoming, and Idaho. Jones wins every state other than those 4 by double digits.

That landslide doesn't look that accurate, to be honest. In Alabama, only a percentile separated the two in December, and that's mostly due to low Republican turnout. There's no way in hell that that would happen again, let alone to Reagan '84 or Nixon '72 levels.

Also, I screwed up Texas like an idiot. I meant to make it Dem >60%, but I was an idiot who forgot to change the percentile, and accidentally mistook Atlas blue with modern blue for a sec. Tongue
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« Reply #1405 on: April 04, 2018, 03:56:01 PM »

Gordan Douglas Jones (D-AL) - 432 ✓
Roy Stewart Moore (R-AL) - 106


Is that 80% in Mississippi?

It's rare for a Mississippi Republican to get higher than 65%, and ol' Roy would be lucky to get 55%.
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« Reply #1406 on: April 04, 2018, 07:32:54 PM »

Gordan Douglas Jones (D-AL) - 470 ✓
Roy Stewart Moore (R-AL) - 58


This is more accurate IMO:



Moore only wins Oklahoma and the only states that are really competitive would be Alabama, Wyoming, and Idaho. Jones wins every state other than those 4 by double digits.

That landslide doesn't look that accurate, to be honest. In Alabama, only a percentile separated the two in December, and that's mostly due to low Republican turnout. There's no way in hell that that would happen again, let alone to Reagan '84 or Nixon '72 levels.

Also, I screwed up Texas like an idiot. I meant to make it Dem >60%, but I was an idiot who forgot to change the percentile, and accidentally mistook Atlas blue with modern blue for a sec. Tongue
You may be right, but at the very least, Moore isn't winning Utah, South Carolina, Montana, North Dakota.
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« Reply #1407 on: April 05, 2018, 11:59:22 AM »


Senator John F. Kennedy / Senator Hubert H. Humphrey
President Richard M. Nixon / Vice President Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
Governor George Wallace / Senator George Smathers
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« Reply #1408 on: April 06, 2018, 02:18:09 PM »

An alternate 1984 presidential election. 

In March of 1981, President Ronald Reagan dies of wounds sustained when he is assassinated in Washington.  Vice President George HW Bush (R-TX) immediately becomes Acting President.  Now-President Bush nominates Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker (R-TN) as Acting VP; his nomination is quickly confirmed. 

On the Democratic side, Rev. Jesse Jackson (D-IL) pulls out an upset in the primaries.  Jackson (who in this case, would become the first black man to win the presidential nomination of a major party) chooses Senator John Glenn (D-OH) as his running mate. 

To wit:



Jackson/Glenn: 203 EVs
Bush/Baker: 335 EVs

Jackson and Glenn pick up some key wins in the East, but Bush and Baker storm to victory in the West.  As such, President Bush and VP Baker win a term in their own right by a landslide.  The stage is set for 1988. 
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« Reply #1409 on: April 06, 2018, 03:31:34 PM »

Nationwide Recreational Marijuana Legalization referendum

Yes 434 63%
No  124 37%

made this of a combination of results from measures and poll results
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« Reply #1410 on: April 06, 2018, 03:35:59 PM »

Nationwide Recreational Marijuana Legalization referendum

Yes 434 63%
No  124 37%

made this of a combination of results from measures and poll results

Why would it pass with over 70% in Indiana?
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« Reply #1411 on: April 06, 2018, 03:39:02 PM »

Nationwide Recreational Marijuana Legalization referendum

Yes 434 63%
No  124 37%

made this of a combination of results from measures and poll results

Why would it pass with over 70% in Indiana?
Im not sure but thats what the polling indicates
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« Reply #1412 on: April 06, 2018, 03:57:05 PM »

Clintopia: Or Every State that voted for The Clintons in the primaries at every turn.



Oh and North Dakota, which didn't even vote for Bill in 1996.
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« Reply #1413 on: April 06, 2018, 04:04:28 PM »



The Bush-archy
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« Reply #1414 on: April 06, 2018, 07:19:17 PM »

Nationwide Recreational Marijuana Legalization referendum

Yes 434 63%
No  124 37%

made this of a combination of results from measures and poll results

Why would it pass with over 70% in Indiana?
Im not sure but thats what the polling indicates
That's quite surprising, I don't really think of Indiana as a socially libertarian state.
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« Reply #1415 on: April 06, 2018, 08:54:52 PM »

Clintopia: Or Every State that voted for The Clintons in the primaries at every turn.



Oh and North Dakota, which didn't even vote for Bill in 1996.

It's like some weird skeleton of Hillary's 2008 map.
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« Reply #1416 on: April 07, 2018, 07:11:27 AM »

Moving on to the 1988 race. 

After securing a term in their own rights, President George HW Bush (R-TX) and VP Howard Baker (R-TN) decide to run for re-election.  They win the GOP nomination unopposed. 

At the Democratic National Convention, party members select Congressman Dick Gephardt (D-MO) as their standard-bearer.  Needing some help in key western states, Gephardt chooses Governor Bruce Babbitt (D-AZ) as his running mate.  Can they take the White House from Bush & Baker?

To wit:



Gephardt/Babbitt: 294 EVs
Bush/Baker: 244 EVs

Bush and Baker pick up the South, as well as some key votes in the Midwest.  However, most of the Midwest go to Gephardt and Babbitt.  The West is the deciding factor; here, Democrats do much better than in 1984.  As such, the team of Gephardt and Babbitt are victorious; for the first time in eight years, there will be a Democrat in the White House. 

1992 still to come. 
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« Reply #1417 on: April 07, 2018, 09:37:13 AM »

Bush couldn't run in 1988 if he became President after Reagan's assassination anyway.
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« Reply #1418 on: April 07, 2018, 09:49:03 PM »



2016 results if Trump won 48.1 percent and Hillary 45.9 percent, so if it were the other way around

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2016 if Trump actually won an absolute majority of the popular vote. Like say 51 percent to 43 percent
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« Reply #1419 on: April 08, 2018, 12:15:04 AM »

Enjoying doing these! Now we come to 1992. 

The Democratic Party, having succeeded in winning the White House in 1988, looks for a repeat performance.  President Dick Gephardt (D-MO) and VP Bruce Babbitt (D-AZ) again pick up their party's nomination, and seek to win four more years in office. 

On the Republican side, and after a contentious primary, GOPers nominate Mr. Pat Buchanan (R-VA) to carry their banner.  Buchanan selects the outspoken Ambassador Alan Keyes (R-NY) as his running mate.  Republicans hope that this ticket can rebound from the 1988 loss, and take back the White House for them. 

Now this is where it gets interesting.  Mr. Ross Perot, a businessman from Texas, decides to throw his hat into the presidential ring.  As his running mate, Perot chooses Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL).  The Perot/Stockdale team gives voters a third choice on their ballots; can they do the unthinkable, and win the election?

(The colors somehow got screwed up a bit, but....)

To wit:



President Dick Gephardt/VP Bruce Babbitt: 367 EVs
Mr. Pat Buchanan/Amb. Alan Keyes: 148 EVs
Mr. Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 23 EVs

The Independent ticket of Perot and Stockdale is strongest in the Midwest, where they take two states.  The unlikely challengers also pick up the (semi-independent) state of New Hampshire, as well as the state of Idaho. 

Incumbents Gephardt and Babbitt do very well in the East, in addition to the Midwest.  Although Buchanan and Keyes pick up some key votes in the South, as well as in the Upper Midwest, they never really challenge the Democrats.  As such, the Democratic team of Gephardt and Babbitt cruise to re-election, and four more years in the White House. 

Still to come: 1996!
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« Reply #1420 on: April 08, 2018, 07:41:52 AM »

1968 Republican National Convention Balloting

Blue - Former Vice President Richard Milhous Nixon of New York
Green - Governor Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller of New York
Red - Governor Ronald Wilson Reagan of California
Orange - Governor George Wilken Romney of Michigan
Yellow - Favorite Sons: Governor Winthrop Rockefeller of Arkansas, Senator Hiram Fong of Hawaii, Senator Frank Carlson of Kansas, Senator Clifford Case of New Jersey, Governor James Rhodes of Ohio
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« Reply #1421 on: April 08, 2018, 12:01:12 PM »

A scenario where Bill Clinton doesn't get 270 electoral votes, so the vote goes to the House.

For President, 1992

Gov. William J. Clinton (D-AR) - 258
Pres. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 183
H. Ross Perot (I-TX) - 97

Please excuse me if this map is crap. This scenario is very unlikely to happen, as Ross Perot was lucky to even get 18.9% of the popular vote in real life as a 3rd party candidate, but whatever.
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« Reply #1422 on: April 08, 2018, 03:06:41 PM »

A scenario where Bill Clinton doesn't get 270 electoral votes, so the vote goes to the House.

For President, 1992

Gov. William J. Clinton (D-AR) - 258
Pres. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 183
H. Ross Perot (I-TX) - 97

Please excuse me if this map is crap. This scenario is very unlikely to happen, as Ross Perot was lucky to even get 18.9% of the popular vote in real life as a 3rd party candidate, but whatever.
Iowa and California going for Perot seems pretty random.
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« Reply #1423 on: April 08, 2018, 06:36:38 PM »



2016 results if Drumpf won 48.1 percent and Hillary 45.9 percent, so if it were the other way around

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2016 if Drumpf actually won an absolute majority of the popular vote. Like say 51 percent to 43 percent

It's interesting how the top map might very well, realistically, be his absolute ceiling. It just proves further how much of an advantage that Republicans have in the electoral college. A Democrat probably needs a plurality of at least 3.5% to win at all.
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« Reply #1424 on: April 08, 2018, 07:12:34 PM »

No One's Quick Like Gaston: Coming Soon (Maybe)


Decision '96
Governor Gaston Caperton (D-WV)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE): 403 EVs
Vice President Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Gov. George Voinovich (R-OH): 135 EVs
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