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« on: May 04, 2017, 07:46:02 AM »

Kings:
John I Rockefeller*: 1923-1936
John II Rockefeller**: 1936-1938
Nelson I Rockefeller***: 1938-1978
John III Rockefeller****: 1978-1997
Nelson II Rockefeller-Percy*****: 1997-PRESENT

*Assassinated
**Wounded in the same attempt that took his father's and sister's life; forced to abdicate after further health complications developed
***Abdicated after suffering a heart attack
****Son of John II; abdicated once his only child, Justin Rockefeller-Percy, turned eighteen
*****Regal name of Justin; officially unified Rockefeller house with the ducal line of Percy because of his mother

Governor-Generals:
Duke Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.: 1938-1967
Duke Charles Percy: 1967-1986
Count John F. Kennedy, Jr.: 1986-2000
Duchess Caroline Kennedy-Dewey: 2000-2009
Count Thurgood II Marshall: 2009-PRESENT

I will add Prime Ministers in a bit.

Edit:

Prime Ministers:
Thomas Dewey(Liberal; Deputy PM Charles McNary): 1938-1941
Thomas Dewey(Liberal-WAR COALITION; Deputy PM John Bricker): 1941-1944
Thomas Dewey(Liberal; Deputy PM Frank Knox): 1944-1949
Earl Warren(Progressive; Eugene McCarthy): 1949-1954
Douglas MacArthur(Conservative; Joseph McCarthy): 1954-1963
Nelson Rockefeller(Liberal-Progressive coalition; Eugene McCarthy): 1963-1968
Nelson Rockefeller(Liberal-Conservative coalition; Gerald Ford): 1968-1973
John F. Kennedy,, Sr. (Progressive-Independent Liberal; Pete McCloskey): 1973-1979
Gerald Ford(Conservative-Liberal coalition; Thurgood Marshall): 1979-1989
Paul Tsongas(Liberal; Jerry Brown): 1989-1993
Howard Baker(Conservative-Liberal coalition; Jerry Brown): 1993-2001
Carol Moseley Braun(Progressive; Bill Bradley): 2001-2005
Carol Moseley Braun(Progressive-Independent Liberal coalition; Howard Dean): 2005-2007
John Huntsman, Jr.(Independent Conservative-Liberal-Plains coalition; Olympia Snowe): 2007-2017
Howard Dean(Liberal-Conservative coalition; Condoleeza Rice): 2017-2024
Condoleeza Rice(Conservative-Liberal coalition; Brian Sandoval): 2024-2029

King Nelson I was Prime Minister at the same time?Huh
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 12:42:24 PM »

And the Curse of Tippecanoe continues.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 10:27:05 AM »


Thank you, Truman. It means a lot.



American Fourth Republic
Presidents of the Republic of America
41. Harry S Truman (Labor - Missouri) 1947-1954
      47. Sam Rayburn (Tripartist - Texas) 1947
      48. Cordell Hull (Third Force - Tennessee) 1947-1948
      49. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Third Force - Massachusetts) 1948-1949
      50. Alben W. Barkley (Third Force - Tennessee) 1949-1950
      51. James F. Byrnes (Third Force - South Carolina) 1950-1951
      52. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Third Force - Massachusetts) 1951
      53. James F. Byrnes (Third Force - South Carolina) 1951-1952
      54. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1952-1953
      55. Irving Ives (Radical - New York) 1953
      56. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1953-1954
42. Richard M. Nixon (Conservative Liberal - California) 1954-1959
      56. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1954
      57. Irving Ives (Radical - New York) 1954-1955
      58. Lyndon B. Johnson (Republican Front - Texas) 1955-1958
"Crisis of May 1958" in the Philippines
      59. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Union for the New Republic - Kansas) 1958-1959


USA as France. Ike is the DeGaulle analogue.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 09:49:11 PM »


31. Al Smith/Franklin Roosevelt: 1929-1941


The Presidential candidate and his running mate cannot be from the same state.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 10:07:54 PM »

1949-1957-Thomas Dewey
1957-1965-Hubert Humphrey
1965-1969-Henry M. Jackson

1969-1977-Nelson Rockefeller
1977-1985-John Connally

1985-1989-Gary Hart
1989-1997-Bob Dole
1997-2005-Tom Harkin
2005-2013-Elizabeth Dole
2013-2021-George Clooney (elected as california governor in 2003)


If the Republicans do not pursue a "Southern Strategy" by the 1970s, then Connally most likely stays a Democrat.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 10:09:09 PM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-Calif.) 1981-1989, VP Howard Baker
41. George H. W. Bush (R-Texas) 1989-1991†, VP John R. Kasich
42. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) 1991-2009, VP's James A. Baker (92-93), Elizabeth Dole (93-01), John S. McCain (01-05), J.C. Watts (05-09)
43. Barack H. Obama (D-Ill.) 2009-2013, VP Hillary Rodham Clinton
44. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) 2013-2017†, VP's Michael Bloomberg (13-17), Marco Rubio (17)
45. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2017-2021, VP Mike Pence (18-21)
46. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) 2021-2025, VP Chris Murphy
47. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2025-2029, VP Nikki Haley
48. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) 2029-2030†, VP Ralph Northam
49. Ralph Northam (D-Va.) 2030-2033, VP Jason Kander (30-33)
50. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2033†, VP Tom Cotton
51. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) 2033†, No VP
52. *Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) 2033-present, No VP (Nominated Walt Maddox)

*- Elevated from Speaker of the House

What is the POD? And why does Kasich serve more than 2 terms?
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 11:54:38 AM »

What are the Shadow Moses and Big Shell incidents?
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 06:13:27 PM »

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy*/Stuart Symington
1963-1969: Stuart Symington/Allan Shivers**
1969-1977: Gov. Nelson Rockefeller/Gov. George Christopher
1977-1981: Gov. Edward J. King/Sen. Howell Heflin
1981-1982: Sen. Barry Goldwater(R-AZ)*/Gov. Edward Brooke(R-MA)
1982-1989: VP Edward Brooke(R-MA)/Rep. Barry Goldwater Jr.(R-AZ)
1989-1997: Sen. Kent Hance(D-TX)/Gov. Bob Casey Sr.(D-PA)
1997-2003: Sen. Paul Tsongas(R-MA)***/Gov. Christine Todd Percy****
2003-2009: VP Christine Todd Percy(R-IL)****/Mayor Howard Dean(R-NY)
2009-2017: Sen. James Webb(D-VA)/Sen. Rick Santorum(D-PA)
2017-: Stanford President Condoleezza Rice(R-CA)/Gov. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller(R-AR)


*Assassinated
**Took his seat in January of 1965
***Died of cancer
****Married to Mark Percy, son of Sen. Charles Percy and brother-in-law of Rep. Jay Rockefeller

Another edition of conservative Democrats/liberal Republicans and the Curse of Tippecanoe continues to the present day.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2018, 05:18:48 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
37. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic, Minnesota) 1969 - 1973
38. Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican, Maryland) 1973 - 1974 *
39. Paul Dominique Laxalt (Republican, Nevada) 1974 - 1976 ‡
40. Gerald Rudolph Ford (Republican, Michigan) 1976 - 1977
41. George Stanley McGovern (Democratic, South Dakota) 1977 - 1981
42. Ronald Wilson Reagan (American, California) 1981 - 1981 ‡
43. Robert Joseph Dole (American, Kansas) 1981 - 1985
44. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic, Minnesota) 1985 - 1987 ^
Office suspended, 1987 - 1989
Office abolished, 1989

* Resigned     ‡ Assassinated     ^ Killed in the President's Day Massacre

ACTING PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES IN EXILE
—. Cecil Dale Andrus (Democratic, as Interior Secretary) 1987 - 1989
—. Michael George Vickers (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 1989 - 1990 ‡
—. Charles Albert Horner (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 1990 - 1993
—. Nelson Strobridge Talbott (Democratic, as Deputy Secretary of State) 1993 - 1994
—. Richard Noyes Viets (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 1994 - 1996
—. Leighton Warren Smith (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 1996 - 2000
—. Thomas Michael Tolliver Niles (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2000 - 2002
—. Richard Bruce Cheney (American, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2002 - 2003 ‡
—. Michael E. Ryan (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2003 - 2004
—. William Floyd Weld (Republican, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2004 - 2006
—. Frank Hughes Murkowski (Republican, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2006 - 2007
—. David Howell Petraeus (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2007 - 2009
—. Colin Luther Powell (Republican, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2009 - 2014
—. Susan Elizabeth Rice (Democratic, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2014 - 2018
—. Ricardo Antonio Rossellσ Nevares (Democratic, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2018 - 2019
—. Harry Keels Thomas (Unaffiliated, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2019 - 2021
—. Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2021 - 2026
—. Luis Gerardo Rivera Marνn (Republican, as Deputy Secretary of State) 2026 - 2028
Government-in-exile disbanded in favor of the American transitional government, 2028

Why was the U.S. Presidency abolished?
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2018, 11:01:15 AM »

Why do the Republicans have a 24 year hold on the Presidency?
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2019, 02:08:52 PM »

NAME
TERM
FROM
11.Alexander Hamilton
(1757–1840)
1816
-
1826
New York
12.Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
1826
-
1832
West Virginia
13.Eliza Schuyler Hamilton
(1757–1854)
1832
-
1837
New York
12.Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
1837
-
1846
West Virginia
14.Lucretia Mott
(1793–1857)
1846
-
1857
(Assassinated)
Pennsylvania
15.Abraham Lincoln
(1809–1888)
1857
-
1869
Illiniweck

Henry Clay was from Kentucky. West Virginia did not exist until 1862.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2019, 07:55:40 PM »

Meh. I'll restart this thread.

ALTERNATE PRESIDENTS FROM MY ABORTIVE HITLER VS. STALIN TIMELINE
(not meant for the squeamish)

Hilliard Victory

PRESIDENTS
(note: colors are reversed due to ideological butterfly effect, due to Hilliard's views)
Adam Hilliard (D) - 1933-1961
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1961-1969
George Wallace (D) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1985
Newt Gingrich (D) - 1985-1989

George H. W. Bush (R) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (R) - 1997-2005
John McCain (R) - 2005-2013

Donald Trump (D) - 2013-2021
Marco Rubio (R) - 2021-

VICE PRESIDENTS
J. Hamilton Lewis (D) - 1933-1939
William D. Pelley (D) - 1939-1957
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1957-1961
George L. Rockwell (D) - 1961-1969
Orval Faubus (D) - 1969-1977
George Smathers (D) - 1977-1985
Pat Buchanan (D) - 1985-1989

Jim Thompson (R) - 1989-1997
George Deukmejian (R) - 1997-2005
Al Gore (R) - 2005-2013

David Duke (D) - 2013-2021
Paul Ryan (R) - 2021-

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Joseph Steele/Upton Sinclair (F-L)
1936-1964: No major opposition
1968: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (R)
1972: Hubert H. Humphrey/Ed Muskie (R)
1976: Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter (R)
1980: Al Gore, Sr./"Scoop" Jackson (R)
1984: Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (R)
1988: Newt Gingrich/Pat Buchanan (D)
1992: Fritz Hollings/Pat Buchanan (D)
1996: Robert Bork/Clyde N. Wilson (D)
2000: Mike Huckabee/Tom Tancredo (D)
2004: David Duke/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2008: Newt Gingrich/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2012: Barack Obama/George W. Bush (R)
2016: Mitt Romney/Scott Walker (R)
2020: Ted Cruz/Steve Bannon (D)

Steele Victory

PRESIDENTS
Joseph Steele (F-L) - 1933-1953
Dwight D. Eisenhower (F-L) - 1953-1961

Lyndon B. Johnson (D) - 1961-1969
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1981
Jimmy Carter (F-L*) - 1981-1989
George H. W. Bush (D) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D) - 1997-2005

Bernie Sanders (L) - 2005-2013
Barack Obama (L) - 2013-2021

Beto O'Rourke (D) - 2021-present

*: shortened from Farmer-Labor to Labor in 1984

VICE PRESIDENTS
Upton Sinclair (F-L) - 1933-1937
Huey Long (F-L) - 1937-1945
Harry S Truman (F-L) - 1945-1953
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1953-1961

George Smathers (D) - 1961-1969
Spiro T. Agnew (F-L) - 1969-1973
Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L) - 1973-1977

Gerald Ford (D) - 1977-1981
Jerry Brown (F-L) - 1981-1989
Dan Quayle (D) - 1989-1997
Richard Lugar (D) - 1997-2005

John McCain (L) - 2005-2013
Paul Ryan (L) - 2013-2021

Marco Rubio (D) - 2021-present

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Adam Hilliard/J. Hamilton Lewis (D)
1936: Adam Hilliard/Charles Evans Hughes (D)
1940: Adam Hilliard/Charles Coughlin^ (D)
1944: John Garner/Strom Thurmond (D)
1948: Strom Thurmond/Robert Taft (D)
1952: Estes Kefauver/Douglas MacArthur (D)
1956: Douglas MacArthur/Estes Kefauver (D)
1960: John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (F-L)
1964: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L)
1968: George Wallace/Orval Faubus (D)
1972: George Smathers/Nelson Rockefeller (D)
1976: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (F-L)
1980: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford (D)
1984: Gerald Ford/Jack Kemp (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis/Gary Hart (L)
1992: Jerry Brown/Al Gore (L)
1996: Bernie Sanders/Noam Chomsky (L)
2000: Mario Cuomo/Jesse Jackson (L)
2004: Richard Lugar/George W. Bush (D)
2008: George W. Bush/Sarah Palin (D)
2012: Rick Perry/Dana Rohrabacher (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz (D)
2020: Elizabeth Warren/Cory Booker (L)

^: Coughlin, having been born in Canada to Canadian parents, was technically ineligible, anyway.

Sorry to see the Hilliard as President and Steel as President timelines aborted. Correct me if I am wrong but

HILLIARD AS PRESIDENT
Obviously, Hilliard rules the USA as a de facto dictator, ethnically cleanses the black community and bans political opposition. The assassination of Steele marks the death of the Farmer-Labor party. Hilliard does succeed in ending the Great Depression and siding with Goebbels Germany in World War II. By the 1960s, an aging Hilliard resigns or does not run for reelection in 1960. He hands off the White House to his protege Strom Thurmond.

Thurmond slowly dismantles the dictatorial apparatus that he inherited from Hilliard which he is able to do after Hilliard's death. Thurmond lifts the political ban on opposition parties. The Republican party is revived and runs candidates for President starting in 1968 but they still do not have a coalition that can win a national election.

Thurmond's successors govern on a conservative agenda while the Republicans function as the loyal opposition and are philosophically liberal. After 56 years in power, the Democrats lose the Presidency. The Republicans would hold the Presidency for 16 years and liberalize the country. Trump wins back the White House for the Democrats in 2012 and holds the Presidency for 2 terms before Marco Rubio leads the Republicans back to power.

STEELE AS PRESIDENT
Joseph Steele's uber-socialist agenda and his support of the poor and working class bring the United States out of the Great Depression despite corruption occurring in the Steele Administration. Steele allows political opposition to exist although he will cheat his way to victory. The Democrats remain strongest in the South and upper New England (and competitive in the Midwest). Obviously, Steele is sympathetic to the USSR especially if it is run by Nikita Khrushchev.

Since the Nazis never come to power (democratically) in Germany, instability still exists. Ultimately, the country falls to civil war until the military steps in suspends democracy. But there is no Holocaust of Europe's Jewish community. The United States still goes to war when the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor. General Eisenhower becomes a popular hero when he leads the successful liberation of Formosa and Korea from the Japanese Empire.

Steele's New Deal which included massive spending on military technology results in victory in the American-Japanese War (1941-1946) as a shock and awe style destruction of Japanese military bases, munitions factories and the royal palace which decapitates the entire royal family and government. Per the terms of the Treaty of Hong Kong, Formosa is given to China, Korea becomes an independent nation (united) under USSR protection, northern Japan is annexed by the USSR and the remainder of Japan becomes a Republic (and a de facto protectorate of the USA) that abolishes its monarchy.

After 20 years as President, Steel retires and is succeeded by war hero Eisenhower who governs as a moderate. The Farmer-Labor Party changes its name to just Labor.

The Democrat and Labor parties rotate control of the Presidency to the present day. Labor is a progressive, left-of-center party and the Democrats are the conservative party.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2019, 09:08:51 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
11. James Knox Polk (Democratic, Tennessee) 1845 – 1849
12. Zachary Taylor (Whig, Louisiana) 1849 – 1850 †
13. Millard Fillmore (Whig, New York) 1850 – 1853

14. Franklin Pierce (Democratic, New Hampshire) 1853 – 1857
15. Millard Fillmore (American, New York) 1857 – 1861
16. Stephen Arnold Douglas (Democratic, Illinois) 1861 – 1861 †
17. John Cabell Breckinridge (Democratic, Kentucky) 1861 – 1863


     PRESIDENTS of the UTICA CONGRESS
     Acting. Solomon Foot (Republican, Vermont)  1863 – 1863
     Acting. Simon Cameron (Republican, Pennsylvania) 1863 – 1865


          PRESIDENTS of the ‘‘NATIONAL’’ GOVERNMENT
          17. John Cabell Breckinridge (Democratic, Kentucky) 1863 – 1865

     PRESIDENTS of the PHILADELPHIA (UNION) GOVERNMENT
     18. Henry Smith Lane (National Union, Indiana) 1865 – 1868

          PRESIDENTS of the RICHMOND (CONFEDERATE) GOVERNMENT
          18. Jefferson Finis Davis (Democratic, Mississippi) 1865 – 1867 *

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
18. Henry Smith Lane (National Union, Indiana) 1868 – 1870 †
19. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (National Union, Maine) 1870 – 1877
20. Ulysses S. Grant (National Union, Ohio) 1877 – 1881
21. James Gillespie Blaine (National Union, Maine) 1881 – 1893

22. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Liberal, New York) 1893 – 1901
23. Thomas Bracket Reed (National Union, Maine) 1901 – 1902 †
24. Charles Warren Fairbanks (National Union, Indiana) 1902 – 1905
25. Henry Cabot Lodge (National Union, Massachusetts) 1905 – 1921

26. Emil Seidel (Labor, Wisconsin) 1921 – 1925
27. Warren Gamaliel Harding (National Union, Ohio) 1925 – 1930 †
28. Charles Curtis (National Union, Kansas) 1930 – 1937

29. Upton Sinclair (Labor, California) 1937 – 1949
30. William Orville Douglas (Labor, Minnesota) 1949 – 1953

31. Dwight David Eisenhower (National Union, Kansas) 1953 – 1957
32. Cyrus Rowlett Smith (National Union, Texas) 1957 – 1961

33. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Labor, Minnesota) 1961 – 1969
34. George Sidney McGovern (Labor, South Dakota) 1969 – 1973

35. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (National Union, New York) 1973 – 1979 †
36. John Bowden Connally (National Union, Texas) 1979 – 1981

37. Maurice Robert Gravel (Labor, Alaska) 1981 – 1985
38. George Herbert Walker Bush (National Union, Connecticut) 1985 – 1989
39. Mario Matthew Cuomo (Labor, New York) 1989 – 1997
40. Paul David Wellstone (Labor, Minnesota) 1997 – 2005

41. Richard Bruce Cheney (National Union, Wyoming) 2005 – 2013
42. Barrack Hussein Obama (Labor, Hawaii) 2013 – present

† Died of natural causes          * Arrested

Lemme guess. The North secedes from the Union in 1865 and wins the Civil War.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2019, 11:57:41 AM »

Presidents of the United States

27. William Howard Taft, Republican (1909-1917)
 - President Taft secured a second term in 1912 after former President Roosevelt's third-party campaign came to a tragic end when the Bull Moose fell to an assassin's bullet. President Taft pursued a policy of neutrality abroad, which some authors believed bordered on isolationism, and continued the anti-corruption crusades of his first term. He did not seek re-election in 1916.
28. Woodrow Wilson, Democrat (1917-1919)
 - New Jersey Governor Woodrow Wilson ran for office on a platform of non-involvement in the Great War. His opponent, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, emphasized this difference as he campaigned on a draft and greater preparedness for American involvement in the war. On the domestic front, Wilson pushed through several progressive reforms, including banking reform and labor reform. After suffering a stroke, Wilson resigned from office in 1919 as he was preparing to declare war on the Central Powers and enter the war, citing a need to protect freedom.
29. Thomas R. Marshall, Democrat (1919-1921)
 - Assuming office upon President Wilson's resignation, President Marshall was faced with the difficult task of charting America's course in the Great War. Believing that America was not prepared to enter the war in 1919, President Marshall demurred and declined to enact the late President's war plans. As millions perished in Europe, Americans looked on in horror at the carnage. Marshall hoped that this would have spurred public support for the war. Instead, it spurred public opposition to his Presidency, losing in a 45-state sweep.
30. Leonard Wood, American (1921-1929)
 - General Leonard Wood, urged into running for President in 1920 by supporters of the late President Roosevelt, ran on his military expertise, forming the American Party and declaring boldly that America was not ready to enter the Great War. Instead, Wood turned his attention towards Mexico, decrying it as a "hotbed for insurgents, rebels, and communists". President Wood and Congress, with a Republican majority, declared war on Mexico in 1922. Opposition newspapers decried the war was "a proving ground for war in Europe" but the Second Mexican-American War was popular with the public and a success, given the weakness of the Mexican government. The Treaty of Mexico City, ratified in 1927, ceded the northern third of Mexico to the United States as the state of Sonora, and installed General John J. Pershing as President of the new Mexican Republican.
31. Charles G. Dawes, American (1929-1933)
 - The 1928 election was between Vice President Charles G. Dawes of the American Party and businessman Herbert Hoover of the Peace Party. Dawes narrowly won, ironically thanks to the electoral votes from Sonora, and pursued an alliance with the German Empire, which was rapidly closing in on a victory in Europe. With France fallen and the British forces being decimated across the Channel, Dawes saw no reason to antagonize Kaiser Wilhelm and signed the Treaty of Paris in 1930, finally entering the United States into the Generation's War, as it was now called, as a member of the Central Powers. The Americans launched a series of campaigns in Canada, dealing damage to the British Empire and its reserve forces. On January 5, 1933, King George V signed papers of abdication and newly-crowned King Edward VIII signed a peace accord with Kaiser Wilhelm the next day. Former President Taft was the American delegate to the peace conference.
32. Calvin Coolidge, Popular (1933-1937)
 - Americans abandoned the American Party in 1932, which many believe spurred President Dawes to push for peace in the Generation's War. His successor, Governor Calvin Coolidge, pledged large sums of money to be spent on rebuilding Canada after the war and attempting to build ties with the decimated British. Coolidge narrowly defeated Dawes in 1932 and found the Congress hostile to his plans. The nation was in a state of deadlock, with Coolidge refusing to colonize Canadian provinces and Congress refusing to fund Coolidge's reparations plan. In October of 1935, the stock market crashed, due to the deadlock, and sent about a run on banks. Coolidge and Congress could not agree on a plan to address the financial crisis, which only got worse, and cost Coolidge his job after one term.
33. Frank Orren Lowden, Republican (1937-1940)
 - President Lowden failed to win over support in Congress for his plan to address the Depression, as there were only two Republican Senators and sixteen Republican Congressmen elected in 1936. Lowden's plan, a bold call to national action that involved spending enormous sums of money on infrastructure projects and government-backed investment accounts, was popular with the public but couldn't find support in Congress. In 1940, he was murdered by a homeless man while the President was touring the slums of Boston as a show of sympathy.
34. Warren G. Harding, Republican (1940)
 - Vice President Harding, a little-known banker prior to being elected as Vice President in 1936, developed pneumonia and died, seventeen days after assuming office.
35. Charles Francis Adams, III, Independent (1940-1941)
 - Secretary of State Adams took charge of a country in deep turmoil and could do little to preserve it. Open rebellions were taking place in Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and Boston when he took the oath of office. Wanting to avoid allegations of being a dictator, Adams rejected calls to order the military into those cities to put down the rebellions. On January 1, 1941, after seven months in office, President Adams was displaced in a coup.

Chairmen of the Central Organizing Committee
1. General John J. Pershing, Military (1941-1950)
 - General Pershing, having rejoined the U.S. Army after six years as President of the Mexican Republic, did not believe that President Adams could right the ills of the nation. After forcing Adams' resignation, Pershing consolidated control by having the Army disband the Congress and formed the Central Organizing Committee, a committee of seven military figures who would manage the country's affairs through the crisis. The first action of the COC was to put down the rebellions through a massive show of force. In 1941, more than 16,000 Americans were killed for taking part in "actions treasonous to the Government". Pershing's rule was long and bloody, as people protested the suspension of Congress and of elections almost daily. The worst was in March of 1949. Nearly a quarter of a million people marched through the District of Columbia towards the Executive Mansion, as the White House was renamed, in hopes of forcing Pershing to resign. Instead, Pershing ordered soldiers to open fire into the crowd, killing over a thousand and arrested as many. Pershing passed away from cancer in 1950.
2. General Dwight D. Eisenhower, Military (1950-1955)
 - The selection of General Eisenhower as the second Chairman of the COC came as a surprise to many. He had been critical of General Pershing's tactics and had urged Pershing to reintroduce elections as early as 1945. Eisenhower was selected as a compromise candidate between the hard-liner faction and the unifying faction. Eisenhower's first act of office was to arrest most of the hardliner faction and have them executed, following a military tribunal. In 1952, he announced plans for Congressional elections in 1954, followed by a Presidential election in 1956. With the country still facing a deep economic crisis, and stirrings of a revolution in Sonora, Eisenhower postponed the elections of 1954 to 1956, to happen concurrently with the Presidential election. Eisenhower was assassinated by a communist hand grenade during an inspection of anti-revolutionary military procedures in Texas.
3. Admiral Robert P. Briscoe (1955-1958)
 - A little known Admiral, Briscoe was the face of the unifying faction of the COC and served as Deputy Chairman under Eisenhower. He oversaw the first Congressional elections in 1956, which returned a Senate with 47 Democratic Socialists, 34 Conservatives, and 21 Independents and a House of Representatives with 197 Conservatives, 195 Democratic Socialists, and 46 Independents. A Presidential election was held in 1958, which saw farmer-turned-local agitator Orville Freeman elected as the first President of the Second Republic. Briscoe handed over power peacefully in on September 3, 1958.

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 01:59:59 PM »

Robert Byrd would have been a better LBJ analogue.
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2020, 08:13:15 AM »

What?
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2020, 06:23:10 PM »



I don't know why i made this why why why

I am wondering the same thing.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2021, 11:42:17 AM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) with George Bush (R-TX) - January 20, 1981 to March 30, 1981*
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Paul Laxalt (R-NV) - March 30, 1981 to January 20, 1985
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Bob Dole (R-KS) - January 20, 1985 to January 20, 1989
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) with Gary Hart (D-CO)** - January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1997
43. Bob Dole (R-KS) with Jacob Javits (R-NY)*** - January 20, 1997 to January 20, 2001
44. Al Gore (D-TN) with Bob Graham (D-FL) - January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) with Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - January 20, 2009 to January 20, 2013
46. Mitt Romney (R-MA) with Rick Santorum (R-PA) - January 20, 2013 to January 20, 2021
47. Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) with Roy Cooper (D-NC) - January 20, 2021 to present

*Assassination of Reagan.
**Donna Rice affair is not discovered.
***Javits challenged Dole in the GOP primary and carried New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia.



Javits died in 1986.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2022, 02:59:21 PM »

37. Richard Nixon (R): January 20, 1969-January 20, 1977
38. Barry Goldwater (R): January 20, 1977-September 11, 1980*
39. Ronald Reagan (R): September 11, 1980-January 20, 1989
40. George H.W. Bush (R): January 20, 1989-June 1, 1992**
41. Dick Cheney (R): June 1, 1992-October 14, 1994***
42. Porter Goss (R): October 14, 1994-February 7, 1995****
43. Dan Quayle (R): February 7, 1995-January 20, 1997
44. Al Gore (D): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
45. Dianne Feinstein (D): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
46. Bill Weld (R): January 20, 2009-March 28, 2010*****
47. Mike Huckabee (R): March 28, 2010-January 20, 2013
48. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2013-January 20, 2021
49. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2021-Present

*=Assassinated by terrorist
**=Assassinated by CIA
***=Impeached for CIA collusion
****=Impeached for CIA collusion
*****=Assassinated by NSA

PRESIDENTS CONVICTED:
Dick Cheney- Murder, Murder of the President, Treason (Pardoned by Porter Goss)
Porter Goss- Avoided Treason charges via pardon (Pardoned by self)

Holy Cow!!! A Deep State in the USA.
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