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« Reply #200 on: October 28, 2017, 01:49:53 PM »

I love this. What are the origins of the post-Washington houses?
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« Reply #201 on: October 28, 2017, 07:02:19 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2017, 07:04:21 PM by Commiela🌹 »

I love this. What are the origins of the post-Washington houses?

During the First Empire, Washington sets out on a Manifest-destiny style westward expansion of the country, triggering war with Great Britain, Spain, and France, and their allies. The alliance forces the capitulation of the Washington dynasty and reintegrates the colonies into Great Britain, making them a constituent country of the Crown (with representation in Parliament).

The July Revolution overthrows the viceroys in America, and the (rather moderate, I guess, compared to the revolutionaries of 1776) revolutionaries invite George III's second (and more liberal) son, William, to be king. However, he must renounce his ties to the House of Hanover, and instead takes his mother's line, Mecklenburg-Strelitz



American Second Republic
Presidents of the American Republic
18. Andrew Jackson (Appalachian - Tennessee) 1832-1840
      Prime Ministers:
      1. Henry Clay (Republican - Kentucky) 1832-1834
      2. John C. Calhoun (Washingtonist - South Carolina) 1834-1836
      3. Henry Clay (Republican - Kentucky) 1836-1838
      4. Daniel Webster (Republican - Massachusetts) 1838-1840
19. Robert E. Lee (Washingtonist - Virginia) 1840-1844
      4. Daniel Webster (Republican - Massachusetts) 1840-1842
      5. Martin Van Buren (Appalachian - New York) 1842-1844

American Second Empire
Emperors of the Americans
House of Washington-Lee
20. George III (formerly Robert E. Lee)  1844-1862
      -. Position vacant 1844-1861
      6. Stephen A. Douglas (Liberal - Illinois) 1861
      7. William H. Seward (Radical - New York) 1861-1862
"British-American War" (over the Oregon Territory)

American Third Republic
Presidents of the Government of National Defense
21. Ulysses S. Grant (Military - Ohio) 1862-1863
"Manhattan Commune"
Chiefs of Executive Power
22. Winfield Scott Hancock (Independent - Pennsylvania) 1863
Presidents of the American Republic
22. Winfield Scott Hancock (Independent - Pennsylvania) 1863-1865
      8. Galusha A. Grow (Independent-Radical - Pennsylvania) 1863-1865
23. John Adams Dix (Moderate - New York) 1865-1871
      9. Michael C. Kerr (Moderate - Indiana) 1865-1866
      10. Samuel J. Randall (Moderate - Pennsylvania) 1866-1868
      11. Schuyler Colfax (Radical - Indiana) 1868-1869
      12. William H. Seward (Radical - New York) 1869
      13. Michael C. Kerr (Moderate - Indiana) 1869-1870
      14. Schuyler Colfax (Radical - Indiana) 1870-1871
24. Abraham Lincoln (Union - Illinois) 1871-1880
      15. James G. Blaine (Radical - Maine) 1871-1872
      16. Henry Wilson (Union - Massachusetts) 1872-1875
      17. Roscoe Conkling (Radical - New York) 1875-1879
      18. Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal Union - New York) 1879-1880
25. James A. Garfield (Radical - Ohio) 1880-1886*
      19. J. Warren Keifer (Radical - Ohio) 1880-1885
      20. Grover Cleveland (Bourbon Democratic - New York) 1885-1886
26. James G. Blaine (Radical - Maine) 1886**
      20. Grover Cleveland (Bourbon Democratic - New York) 1886
27. Benjamin Harrison (Radical - Indiana) 1886-1890
      20. Grover Cleveland (Bourbon Democratic - New York) 1886-1890
28. Levi P. Morton (Progressive Conservative - New York) 1890-1897
      20. Grover Cleveland (Bourbon Democratic - New York) 1890
      21. Charles W. Lippitt (Radical - Rhode Island) 1890-1893
      22. William Jennings Bryan (Populist - Nebraska) 1893-1897
      23. Thomas Brackett Reed (Progressive Conservative - Maine) 1897
29. William McKinley (Progressive Conservative - Ohio) 1897-1904
      23. Thomas Brackett Reed (Progressive Conservative - Maine) 1897
      24. George Dewey (Populist - Vermont) 1897-1902
      25. David B. Henderson (Progressive Conservative - Iowa) 1902-1903
      26. Jim Hogg (Populist - Texas) 1903-1904
30. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Conservative - New York) 1904-1911
      26. Jim Hogg (Populist - Texas) 1904-1905
      27. James S. Sherman (Progressive Conservative - New York) 1905
      28. Jim Hogg (Populist - Texas) 1905-1906***
      29. Edward C. Wall (Populist - Wisconsin) 1906-1908
      30. James S. Sherman (Progressive Conservative - New York) 1908
      31. John Albert Johnson (Populist - Minnesota) 1908
      32. James Beauchamp "Champ" Clark (National Bloc - Missouri) 1908-1911
31. William Howard Taft (Progressive Conservative - Ohio) 1911**
      32. James Beauchamp "Champ" Clark (National Bloc - Missouri) 1911
32. James Beauchamp "Champ" Clark (National Bloc - Missouri) 1911-1915
      33. Joseph Gurney Cannon (National Bloc - Illinois) 1911-1912
      34. Edward C. Wall (Populist - Wisconsin) 1912-1913
      35. Theodore Roosevelt (National Bloc - New York) 1913-1915

* Assassinated
** Resigned
*** Died in a train accident


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« Reply #202 on: October 28, 2017, 09:33:19 PM »


      18. Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal Union - New York) 1879-1880


Yay Tilden is in this
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« Reply #203 on: October 28, 2017, 11:07:25 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2017, 12:47:16 PM by Al Franken/Chris Murphy 2020 »

The year is 1865. President Lincoln is dead. Vice President Johnson is dead. Secretary Seward is dead.

Lafayette Foster awoke to anxious rapping on his door, and was quickly shuffled to the White House where, still in his pajamas, he was sworn in as the 17th President of the United States.

Over the coming days, President Foster came to terms with the tragedy that had shaken the nation to its very core, had stretched the constitution to its limits, and had shattered trust in government.

He knew it could never happen again.

He quickly won-over Radical Republican leader Thaddeus Stevens with a plan of radical reconstruction of the south. But Foster was merely acting President. Under Stevens’ influence, Foster called for a new special Presidential election in November. Stevens was the only candidate, as the Democrats did not nominate anyone.

Stevens, as 18th President, set about radically reframing the constitution, arguing that it had failed to prevent a civil war and to save the nation’s highest officers from assassination.

On July 4th, 1867, the Second Constitution of the United States was ratified.

Almost all power went to the federal government. The government, too, was rearranged. The Second Constitution was modeled after British parliament; the new House Speaker would become chief executive and Head of Government, a Prime Minister in all but name. The Head of State retained the title of President, but held no real powers, limited to a single eight-year term and formally nominating the House Speaker, the winner of general elections. The President was popularly elected, but had to be nominated by a political party currently sitting in Congress.

The Second American Republic was born.

PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES
Under the Second Constitution

1) Hannibal Hamlin (1867-1875, nominated by the Republican Party)
2) Ulysses Grant (1875-1883, nominated by the Republican Party)
3) William Tecumseh Sherman (1883-1891, nominated by the Republican Party)
4) John Sherman (1891-1899, nominated by the Republican Party)
5) Adelbert Ames (1899-1907, nominated by the Republican Party)
6) Joshua Chamberlain (1907-1915, nominated by the Republican Party)
7) Robert Todd Lincoln (1915-1923, nominated by the Republican Party)
8) Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (1923-1931, nominated by the Progressive Republican Party)
9) Edith Wilson (1931-1939, nominated by the Democratic Party)
10) Wendell Willkie (1939-1947, nominated by the Progressive Republican Party)
11) Eleanor Roosevelt (1947-1955, nominated by the Labor Party)
12) Norman Thomas (1955-1963, nominated by the Labor Party)
13) Carl Hayden (1963-1971, nominated by the Labor Party and the Democratic Party)
14) Jacqueline Kennedy (1971-1979, nominated by the Labor Party)
15) Ralph W. Yarborough (1979-1987, nominated by the Labor Party and the Democratic Party)
16) George HW Bush (1987-1995, nominated by the Conservative Party and the Democratic Party)
17) Lloyd Bentsen (1995-2003, nominated by the Labor Party and the Democratic Party)
18) Skip Humphrey (2003-2011, nominated by the Labor Party)
19) Orrin Hatch (2011-, nominated by the Conservative Party)

SPEAKERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES:
Under the Second Constitution

1) Thaddeus Stevens (Republican majority, 1867-1868)
2) Charles Sumner (Republican majority, 1868-1874)
3) John Armor Bingham (Republican majority, 1874-1879)

4) Samuel J. Tilden (Democratic minority, 1879-1881)
5) James G. Blaine (Republican majority, 1881-1886)
6) Grover Cleveland (Democratic minority 1886-1887)
7) Thomas B. Reed (Republican minority 1887-1890)
6) Grover Cleveland (Democratic majority, 1890-1893)
8) Whitelaw Reid (Republican majority, 1893-1899)
9) William McKinley (Republican majority, 1899-1901)

10) William Jennings Bryan (Democratic-Farmer-Populist coalition, 1901-1906)
11) Theodore Roosevelt (Republican majority, 1906-1911)
12) Woodrow Wilson (Democratic-Labor coalition, 1911-1912)
11) Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive-Republican coalition, 1912-1918)
13) Robert LaFollette (Progressive-Republican coalition, 1918-1924)

14) Herbert Hoover (Conservative-Democratic coalition, 1924-1931)
15) Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Labor majority, 1931-1945)
16) Harry Truman (Labor majority, 1945-1948)

17) Thomas Dewey (Progressive Republican-Conservative coalition, 1948-1951)
18) Adlai Stevenson (Labor-Democratic coalition, 1951-1953)
19) Dwight Eisenhower (Progressive Republican majority, 1953-1960)
20) Richard M. Nixon (Progressive Republican majority, 1960-1961)

21) John F. Kennedy (Labor minority, 1961-1963)
22) Lyndon B. Johnson (Labor minority, then majority, 1963-1968)
23) Hubert H. Humphrey (Labor majority, 1968-1970)

20) Richard M. Nixon (Conservative majority, 1970-1973)
24) Robert F. Kennedy (Labor majority, 1973-1984)
25) Geraldine Ferraro (Labor majority, 1984)

26) Bob Dole (Conservative majority, then minority 1984-1990)
27) Ted Kennedy (Labor minority, 1990-1995)
28) Bill Clinton (Labor-Democratic coalition, 1995-2002)

29) George W. Bush (Conservative majority, then Conservative-Democratic coalition, 2002-2010)
30) Susan Collins (Progressive Republican minority with Labor support, 2010-2012)
31) Hillary Clinton (Labor-Progressive Republican coalition, 2012-2016)
32) Barack Obama (Labor minority, 2016-)


Candidates in the 2018 Presidential election:

Labor: Maria Shriver, former Labor Party chairperson
Progressive Republican: Olympia Snowe, former Progressive Republican leader and MC for Maine
Conservative: Willard M. Romney, businessman, former Conservative Party chairperson
Democratic: Sam Nunn, former MC for Georgia
Center: Dave Freudenthal, former Speaker of the Wyoming House of Representatives
Left: Nina Turner, former MSC in Ohio
The Radical United Movement for Patriots: Donald J. Trump, Jr., businessman and son of TRUMP founder Donald J. Trump
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« Reply #204 on: October 29, 2017, 03:45:48 PM »


American Third Republic - continued
Presidents of the American Republic
33. Woodrow Wilson (Center - New Jersey) 1915-1922
     36. Oscar Underwood (Cartel of the Left - Alabama) 1915-1917
     37. Calvin Coolidge (Progressive Conservative - Massachusetts) 1917-1921
     38. William Gibbs McAdoo (Cartel of the Left - California) 1921-1922
     39. Andrew Volstead (National Bloc - Michigan) 1922
34. Warren G. Harding (Radical - Ohio) 1922-1923*
     39. Andrew Volstead (National Bloc - Michigan) 1922-1923
     40. Calvin Coolidge (Progressive Conservative - Massachusetts) 1923
35. Leonard Wood (Progressive Conservative - New Hampshire) 1923-1931
     41. Oscar Underwood (Cartel of the Left - Alabama) 1923-1925
     42. Nicholas Longworth (Progressive Conservative - Ohio) 1925-1926
     43. Robert M. La Follette Sr. (Populist - Wisconsin) 1926-1927
     44. Al Smith (Popular Front - New York) 1927-1931
36. Herbert Hoover (Progressive Conservative - California) 1931-1935**
     45. John Nance Garner (Moderate - Texas) 1931-1935
37. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Popular Front - New York) 1935-1939***
     45. John Nance Garner (Moderate - Texas) 1935
     46. William B. Bankhead (Popular Front - Alabama) 1935-1939***
"The Business Plot and the Nazis Invade"

Saratoga America
Chiefs of the American State
38. John J. Pershing (Saratogist - Missouri) 1939-1944
     Vice Presidents of the Council of Ministers:
     47. Bertrand Snell (Saratogist - New York) 1939-1940
     48. Robert E. Wood (Saratogist - Illinois) 1940-1941
     49. Gerald Nye (Saratogist - North Dakota) 1941-1942
     50. Bertrand Snell (Saratogist - New York) 1942-1944
   
Free Americans
Presidents of the American Republic in Exile
38. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Military - Kansas) 1939-1944

Provisional Government of the American Fourth Republic
Chairmen of the Provisional Government
38. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Independent - Kansas) 1944-1946
39. Arthur Vandenberg (Tripartist - Michigan) 1946
40. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Tripartist - New York) 1946-1947

* Assassinated
** Resigned
*** Resigned and fled the country

To be continued!
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« Reply #205 on: October 30, 2017, 02:12:30 PM »

This is the best thing ever.
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« Reply #206 on: October 30, 2017, 08:45:00 PM »


Thank you, Truman. It means a lot.



American Fourth Republic
Presidents of the Republic of America
41. Harry S Truman (Labor - Missouri) 1947-1954
      47. Sam Rayburn (Tripartist - Texas) 1947
      48. Cordell Hull (Third Force - Tennessee) 1947-1948
      49. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Third Force - Massachusetts) 1948-1949
      50. Alben W. Barkley (Third Force - Tennessee) 1949-1950
      51. James F. Byrnes (Third Force - South Carolina) 1950-1951
      52. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Third Force - Massachusetts) 1951
      53. James F. Byrnes (Third Force - South Carolina) 1951-1952
      54. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1952-1953
      55. Irving Ives (Radical - New York) 1953
      56. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1953-1954
42. Richard M. Nixon (Conservative Liberal - California) 1954-1959
      56. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1954
      57. Irving Ives (Radical - New York) 1954-1955
      58. Lyndon B. Johnson (Republican Front - Texas) 1955-1958
"Crisis of May 1958" in the Philippines
      59. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Union for the New Republic - Kansas) 1958-1959

American Fifth Republic
Presidents of the Republic of America
43. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Union for the New Republic - Kansas) 1959-1969*
1958 def. Hubert H. Humphrey (Communist - Minnesota) and Margaret Chase Smith (Union of the Democratic Forces - Maine)
1965 def. John F. Kennedy (Federation of the Democratic and Socialist Left - Massachusetts)

     60. Everett Dirksen (Union for the New Republic - Kansas) 1959-1962
     61. Gerald Ford (Union for the New Republic - Michigan) 1962-1968
"May 1968 Riots"
     62. Christian Herter (Union of Democrats for the Republic - Massachusetts) 1968-1969
44. Gerald Ford (Union of Democrats for the Republic - Michigan) 1969-1974
1969 def. Birch Bayh (Democratic Centre - Indiana)
     63. Leslie C. Arends (Union of Democrats for the Republic - Illinois) 1969-1972
     64. John J. Rhodes (Union of Democrats for the Republic - Arizona) 1972-1974
45. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican/Union for American Democracy - New York) 1974-1981
1974 def. John F. Kennedy (Socialist - Massachusetts)
     65. Jack Kemp (Union of Democrats for the Republic - New York) 1974-1976
     66. Robert "Bob" H. Michel (Union for American Democracy - Illinois) 1976-1981
46. John F. Kennedy (Socialist - Massachusetts) 1981-1995
1981 def. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican/Union for American Democracy - New York)
1988 def. Jack Kemp (Union of Democrats for the Republic - New York)

      67. George S. McGovern (Socialist - South Dakota) 1981-1984
      68. George J. Mitchell (Socialist - Maine) 1984-1986
      69. Jack Kemp (Union of Democrats for the Republic - New York) 1986-1988
      70. Robert Byrd (Socialist - West Virginia) 1988-1991
      71. Elizabeth Holtzmann (Socialist - New York) 1991-1992*
      72. Tom Foley (Socialist - Washington) 1992-1993
      73. Newt Gingrich (Rally for the Republic - Georgia) 1993-1995
47. Jack Kemp (Rally for the Republic - New York) 1995-2007
1995 def. Richard "Dick" Gephardt (Socialist - Missouri)
2002 def. Patrick Buchanan (National Front - Virginia)

      74. Willard "Mitt" Romney (Rally for the Republic - Massachusetts) 1995-1997
      75. Richard "Dick" Gephardt (Socialist - Missouri) 1997-2002
      76. Dennis Hastert (Union for a Popular Movement - Illinois) 2002-2005
      77. Roy Blunt (Union for a Popular Movement - Missouri) 2005-2007
48. George W. Bush (Union for a Popular Movement - Texas) 2007-2012
2007 def. Hillary Rodham** (Socialist - New York)
      78. Rick Santorum (Union for a Popular Movement - Pennsylvania) 2007-2012
49. William "Bill" Clinton (Socialist - Arkansas) 2012-2017
2012 def. George W. Bush (Union for a Popular Movement - Texas)
      79. Steny Hoyer (Socialist - Maryland) 2012-2014
      80. Joseph Crowley (Socialist - New York) 2014-2016
      81. David Cicilline (Socialist - Rhode Island) 2016-2017
50. Timothy Geithner (Republic on the Move - New York) 2017-
2017 def. Michele Bachmann (National Front - Minnesota)
      82. Rodney Davis (Republican - Illinois) 2017-

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** formerly Clinton; divorced
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« Reply #207 on: October 30, 2017, 09:45:12 PM »

Vive L'Amerique!
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« Reply #208 on: October 31, 2017, 01:35:43 AM »


Three different MAINEbois are featured + a loser Margaret Chase Smith. Was my thumb on the scale? Who knows.. Wink
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« Reply #209 on: November 01, 2017, 05:00:46 AM »
« Edited: November 01, 2017, 05:02:18 AM by President Johnson »

Post World War 2 Presidents and Vice Presidents

April 12, 1945 - January 20, 1949: Henry A. Wallace / vacant
January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1957: Earl Warren / Thomas E. Dewey
January 20, 1957 - January 20, 1961: Goodwin Knight / Christian Herter
January 20, 1961 - January 20, 1969: Stuart Symington / Hubert Humphrey
January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1977: William Scranton / Gerald Ford
January 20, 1977 - April 7, 1984: Frank Church (died of cancer in office) / Lloyd Bentsen
April 7, 1984 - January 20, 1989: Lloyd Bentsen / John Glenn
January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993: Bob Dole / Pete Wilson
January 20, 1993 - August 2, 1998: Gary Hart / Chris Dodd (resigned over scandal)
August 2, 1998 - January 20, 2001: Chris Dodd / Ann Richards
January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009: Colin Powell / Richard Riordan
January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2017: Jerry Brown / Debbie Stabbenow
January 20, 2017 - incumbent: Barack Obama / Gavin Newsom

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« Reply #210 on: November 01, 2017, 10:27:05 AM »


Thank you, Truman. It means a lot.



American Fourth Republic
Presidents of the Republic of America
41. Harry S Truman (Labor - Missouri) 1947-1954
      47. Sam Rayburn (Tripartist - Texas) 1947
      48. Cordell Hull (Third Force - Tennessee) 1947-1948
      49. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Third Force - Massachusetts) 1948-1949
      50. Alben W. Barkley (Third Force - Tennessee) 1949-1950
      51. James F. Byrnes (Third Force - South Carolina) 1950-1951
      52. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Third Force - Massachusetts) 1951
      53. James F. Byrnes (Third Force - South Carolina) 1951-1952
      54. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1952-1953
      55. Irving Ives (Radical - New York) 1953
      56. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1953-1954
42. Richard M. Nixon (Conservative Liberal - California) 1954-1959
      56. Robert A. Taft (Conservative Liberal - Ohio) 1954
      57. Irving Ives (Radical - New York) 1954-1955
      58. Lyndon B. Johnson (Republican Front - Texas) 1955-1958
"Crisis of May 1958" in the Philippines
      59. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Union for the New Republic - Kansas) 1958-1959


USA as France. Ike is the DeGaulle analogue.
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« Reply #211 on: November 02, 2017, 01:56:11 AM »

The Tippecanoe Curse is Broken by JFK:

35. John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)Sad 1961-1969
36. Lyndon B. Johnson / Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic)Sad 1969-1973
37. Nelson A. Rockefeller / Robert J. Dole (Republican)Sad 1973-1981
38. Robert F. Kennedy / Birch E. Bayh Jr.(Democratic)Sad 1981-1985
39. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)Sad 1985-1993
40. Joseph R. Biden Jr. / Dale L. Bumpers (Democratic)Sad 1993-2001
41. John S. McCain III / John R. Kasich (Republican)Sad 2001-2009
42. John F. Kennedy Jr. / Bill Nelson (Democratic)Sad 2009-2017
43. Marco A. Rubio / Robert J. Portman (Republican)Sad 2017-Incumbent
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« Reply #212 on: November 02, 2017, 08:07:29 AM »

JFK bends down to tie his shoe, Jackie gets shot instead

35) John F. Kennedy1/Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1965)
36) Lyndon B. Johnson2/Hubert H. Humphrey (1965-1969)
37) Richard M. Nixon/Spiro Agnew, Gerald Ford (1969-1974)
38) Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977)
39) Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (1977-1981)
40) Alexander Haig/Donald Rumsfeld (1981-1985)
41) John F. Kennedy3/Patricia Schroeder (1985-1989)
42) Patricia Schroeder/Mario Cuomo (1989-1997)
43) John McCain/William Weld (1997-2005)

1: Retires out of grief and to raise his children, but finishes his term

2: Decides not to run again, frustrated over not being able to pass as much of the Great Society as he wanted (w/o the martyr effect surrounding JFK's death)

3: Is persuaded to run again in response to Haig's administration's failures
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« Reply #213 on: November 03, 2017, 04:16:01 PM »

“Saratoga America”. Grin
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« Reply #214 on: November 03, 2017, 05:17:13 PM »

Amazing work Kamala.
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« Reply #215 on: November 03, 2017, 06:30:19 PM »


35) John F. Kennedy (1961-1969)
36) Robert F. Kennedy (1969-1977)
37) Sargent Shriver (1977-1985)
38) Edward M. Kennedy (1985-1993)
39) Joseph P. Kennedy II (1993 - 2001)
40) Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (2001 - 2009)
41) Patrick J. Kennedy (2019 - 2013)

42) John Neely Kennedy* (2013 - 2017)
43) Robert K. Kennedy* (2017-2021)
44) Caroline Kennedy (2021 - 2029)
45) Joseph P. Kennedy III (2029 - )


* = not really a Kennedy
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« Reply #216 on: November 05, 2017, 07:55:47 PM »

42. Ross Perot (Independent/Reform) 1993–2001
VP: James Stockdale (1993–97) Donald Trump (1997–01)
43. Donald Trump (Reform) 2001–2005 VP: Richard Lamm
44. John Edwards (Democratic) 2005–2009 VP: John Breaux
45. Mitt Romney (Republican) 2009–2013 VP: Condoleezza Rice
46. Bernie Sanders (Democratic) 2013–present VP: Russ Feingold

Notes:
-Ross Perot formed the Reform Party in 1995 and became a member
-Vice President James Stockdale was replaced by Donald Trump for the 1996 election
-John Edwards was originally the Democratic nominee for 2008 but was dropped from the ticket after his affair was revealed, and was replaced by Vice President John Breaux
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« Reply #217 on: November 06, 2017, 09:30:46 AM »

Dewey defeats Truman

January 20, 1949 – January 20, 1957: Thomas Dewey / Earl Warren
January 20, 1957 – January 20, 1961: W. Averell Harriman / Estes Kefauver
January 20, 1961 – January 20, 1969: Richard Nixon / Everett Dirksen (1961-65), George Romney (1965-69)
January 20, 1969 – January 20, 1973: George Romney / Paul Laxalt
January 20, 1973 – January 20, 1981: Frank Church / Edmund Muskie
January 20, 1981 – March 4, 1981: Jim Rhodes / Bob Dole (assassinated)
March 4, 1981 – January 20, 1989: Bob Dole / Nancy Kassebaum (first appointed, elected in 1984)
January 20, 1989 – January 20, 1997: Sam Nunn / Al Gore
January 20, 1997 – January 20, 2005: Al Gore / Patrick Leahy (1997-2001); George Voinovich (2001-05; elected by GOP controlled senate after 269 – 269 deadlock in EC)
January 20, 2005 – January 20, 2009: Donald Rumsfeld / Trent Lott
January 20, 2009 – January 20, 2017: Joe Biden / Mary Landrieu
January 20, 2017 – present: John Kasich / Nikki Haley


Defeated tickets:

1948: Harry S. Truman / Alben Berkley (incumbent)
1952: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman
1956: Earl Warren / James H. Duff
1960: W. Averell Harriman / Estes Kefauver (incumbent)
1964: John F. Kennedy / Terry Sanford
1968: John F. Kennedy / John Connally
1972: George Romney / Paul Laxalt (incumbent)
1976: Ronald Reagan / Richard Schweiker
1980: Hugh Carey / Lloyd Bentsen
1984: Gary Hart / Michael Dukakis
1988: Nancy Kassebaum / Phil Crane
1992: Jack Kemp / Howard Baker
1996: George Pataki / Barry Goldwater Jr.
2000: Donald Rumsfeld / Patrick Leahy (EC deadlock)
2004: Bill Clinton / Howard Dean
2008: Donald Rumsfeld / Trent Lott (incumbent)
2012: Thaddeus McCotter / Mike Huckabee
2016: Bernie Sanders / Amy Klobuchar
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« Reply #218 on: November 06, 2017, 11:07:18 AM »

Why would Dole sacrifice Kansas's EVs by selecting Kassebaum?
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« Reply #219 on: November 07, 2017, 12:05:25 AM »

Another Unthinkable Has Happened:

37. Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)Sad 1969-1973
38. George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (Democratic)Sad 1973-1977
39. Ronald Reagan / Gerald Ford (Republican)Sad 1977-1981
40. Walter Mondale / Reubin Askew (Democratic)Sad 1981-1989
41. Reubin Askew / Gary Hart (Democratic)Sad 1989-1993
42. Pete Wilson / Jim Thompson (Republican)Sad 1993-2001
43. John McCain / Newt Gingrich (Republican)Sad 2001-2005
44. Bill Clinton / Dick Gephardt (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
45. John Huntsman / Rob Portman (Republican)Sad 2009-2017
46. Sherrod Brown / Deval Patrick (Democratic)Sad 2017-2025
47. Deval Patrick / Steve Bullock (Democratic): 2025-2029
48. Rand Paul / Paul Ryan (Republican)Sad 2029-Incumbent

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« Reply #220 on: November 07, 2017, 09:30:40 AM »

Why would Dole sacrifice Kansas's EVs by selecting Kassebaum?

Uh, I forgot about that. But Dole could simply change his official homestate. Wouldn't be so unique: Cheney was registered in TX in 2000, before switching back to WY after W selected him for the VP slot.
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« Reply #221 on: November 07, 2017, 11:11:47 AM »

Why would Dole sacrifice Kansas's EVs by selecting Kassebaum?

Uh, I forgot about that. But Dole could simply change his official homestate. Wouldn't be so unique: Cheney was registered in TX in 2000, before switching back to WY after W selected him for the VP slot.
He could register in DC, for example.
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« Reply #222 on: November 07, 2017, 11:16:19 AM »

Why would Dole sacrifice Kansas's EVs by selecting Kassebaum?

Uh, I forgot about that. But Dole could simply change his official homestate. Wouldn't be so unique: Cheney was registered in TX in 2000, before switching back to WY after W selected him for the VP slot.
He could register in DC, for example.

VA and MD would also be an option. Lots of senators and representatives are de facto residents of these states just outside of DC.
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« Reply #223 on: November 07, 2017, 01:06:46 PM »
« Edited: November 07, 2017, 06:51:37 PM by Ninja0428 »

28. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive R)/Hiram Johnson: 1913-1921
29. Eugene Debs (Socialist)/Seymour Stedman: 1921-1925
30. Calvin Coolidge/Warren Harding: 1925-1929
31. Al Smith/Franklin Roosevelt: 1929-1941
32. Franklin Roosevelt/Harry Truman: 1941-1946
33. Harry Truman/Alben Barkley: 1946-1949
34. Thomas Dewey/Dwight Eisenhower: 1949-1957
35. Dwight Eisenhower/Thomas Kuchel: 1957-1961
36. John Kennedy/George McGovern: 1961-1969
37. George McGovern/Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1973
38. Nelson Rockefeller/Spiro Agnew: 1973-1981
39. Spirow Agnew/Gerald Ford: 1981-1989
40. Al Gore/Michael Dukakis: 1989-1997
41. Bill Clinton/Joe Biden: 1997-2001
42. John McCain/John Kasich: 2001-2005
43. Al Gore/John Kerry: 2005-2009
44. John Kerry/Barack Obama: 2009-2017
45. Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton: 2017-2021
46. Susan Collins/Jeff Flake: 2021-2029
47. Kamala Harris/Jason Kander: 2029-(Incumbent)
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« Reply #224 on: November 07, 2017, 07:27:19 PM »

(Continued from Above)
Defeated Tickets:
1912: Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall and Nicholas Butler/James Sherman (Moderate R)
1916: James Marshall/Duncan Fletcher and Charles Hughes/Charles Fairbanks (Moderate R)
1920: James Cox/Franklin Roosevelt and Hiram Johnson/Robert LaFollette (Progressive R) and Leonard Wood/Warren Harding (Moderate R)
1924: Eugene Debs/Seymour Stedman (Socialist)* and John Davis/Charles Bryan
1928: Calvin Coolidge/Warren Harding*
1932: Warren Harding/Herbert Hoover
1936: Charles Curtis/Herbert Hoover
1940: Wendell Willkie/Alf Landon
1944: Thomas Dewey/Wendell Willkie
1948: Harry Truman/Alben Barkley (Moderate D)* and Strom Thurmond/Fielding Wright (Conservative D)
1952: Adlai Stevenson/George Ball
1956: John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (Liberal D) and Strom Thurmond/Harry Byrd (Conservative D)
1960: Dwight Eisenhower/Thomas Kuchel* and Harry Byrd/Strom Thurmond (Conservative D)
1964: Richard Nixon/Barry Goldwater
1968: Richard Nixon/John Anderson and George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (Conservative D)
1972: George McGovern/Hubert Humphrey*
1976: Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter
1980: Walter Mondale/Jimmy Carter
1984: Jimmy Carter/Geraldine Ferraro
1988: Bob Dole/Ronald Reagan
1992: George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle
1996: Arlen Specter/Alan Keyes (New Conservative) and Pat Buchanan/Phil Gramm (Conservative R)
2000: Bill Clinton/Joe Biden*
2004: John McCain/John Kasich*
2008: Mitt Romney/Ron Paul
2012: Ron Paul/John Kasich
2016: John Kasich/Jeff Duncan and Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Radical R)
2020: Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton*
2024: Steve Bullock/Michael Bennet
2028: Jeff Flake/Steve Daines

*Incumbent Defeated
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