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« Reply #675 on: February 04, 2019, 08:28:35 PM »
« edited: February 05, 2019, 07:06:24 PM by Sherrod Brown 2020 »
Nixon as Kennedy (again)

37. Richard Nixon/Hugh Scott 1969-1971
38. Hugh Scott/Mark Hatfield 1971-1977
39. Hubert Humphrey/Ray Blanton 1977-1981, vacant 1981, Jim Wright 1981-1982
40. Jim Wright/vacant 1982, Reubin Askew 1982-1985
41. Daniel Evans/Bob Dole 1985-1989
42. Mario Cuomo/Birch Bayh 1989-1997
43. Birch Bayh/Joe Lieberman 1997-2001
44. John Engler/Mike DeWine 2001-2009
45. Evan Bayh/Richard Holbrooke 2009-2017
46. Marco Rubio/Richard Burr 2017-2025
47. Mark Zuckerberg/Richard Cordray 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1968: Hubert Humphrey/Cyrus Vance
1972: George McGovern/Wilbur Mills
1976: Mark Hatfield/William Scranton
1980: Jesse Helms/John Connally/Charles Mathias
1984: Jim Wright/Paul Sarbanes
1988: Daniel Evans/Bob Dole
1992: Bob Dole/Carla Anderson Hills
1996: Pete Wilson/Arlen Specter
2000: Birch Bayh/Joe Lieberman
2004: Paul Sarbanes/Lee Hamilton
2008: Mike DeWine/Chuck Hagel
2012: Richard Lugar/Dean Heller
2016: Tom Udall/Christine Gregoire
2020: John Bel Edwards/Eric Swalwell
2024: Scott Walker/Cory Gardner
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« Reply #676 on: February 04, 2019, 10:42:19 PM »
"And that gruesome image..."
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« Reply #677 on: February 07, 2019, 08:54:15 PM »
Different New Democrats:

41. George Bush / Dan Quayle (Republican): 1989-1993
42. Sam Nunn / Bob Graham (Democratic): 1993-2001
43. Bob Graham / Howard Dean (Democratic): 2001-2005
44. Jeb Bush / Chuck Hagel (Republican): 2005-2013
45. Bill Richardson / Evan Bayh (Democratic): 2013-2017
46. Jon Huntsman / Norm Coleman (Republican): 2017-2021
47. Jeff Merkley / Barack Obama (Democratic): 2021-2029
48. Barack Obama / Gavin Newsom (Democratic): 2029-Incumbent

Defeated Tickets:

1992: George Bush / Dan Quayle (Republican), Ross Perot / James Stockdale (Independent)
1996: Dan Quayle / Phil Graham (Republican)
2000: Newt Gingrich / Pete Wilson (Republican)
2004: Bob Graham / Howard Dean (Democratic)
2008: Howard Dean / John Edwards (Democratic)
2012: Sam Brownback / Charlie Crist (Republican)
2016: Bill Richardson / Evan Bayh (Democratic)
2020: Jon Huntsman / Norm Coleman (Republican)
2024: John Kasich / Marco Rubio (Republican)
2028: Paul Ryan / Tim Scott (Republican)
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« Reply #678 on: February 09, 2019, 05:40:31 PM »
Obama as Clinton

44. Barack Obama/Evan Bayh 2009-2017
45. Jeb Bush/John Thune 2017-2025
46. Julian Castro/Chris Murphy 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2008: Mitt Romney/George Allen
2012: John McCain/Tom Ridge
2016: Evan Bayh/Kent Conrad
2020: Tim Kaine/Cory Booker
2024: Rob Portman/Kim Reynolds
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« Reply #679 on: February 09, 2019, 06:10:23 PM »
Quote from: Bennet or Bust on February 02, 2019, 04:32:44 PM
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Also lol @ Zuck as the democratic Trump above.
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« Reply #680 on: February 09, 2019, 07:43:49 PM »
FIRST CITIZENS of the UNITED STATES
1893 – 1937     John Davison Rockefeller I
1937 – 1960     John Davison Rockefeller II
1960 – 1978     John Davison Rockefeller III
1978 –             John Davison Rockefeller IV
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« Reply #681 on: February 09, 2019, 10:21:07 PM »
"That Highest, Hardest Glass Ceiling"

45.  Donald Trump (R-NY) / Mike Pence (R-IN); 2017-2025
46.  Tom Cotton (R-AR) / Martha McSally (R-AZ); 2025-2029
47.  Gavin Newsom (D-CA) / Grace Meng (D-NY); 2029-2037
48.  Peter Thiel (R-NY) / Elaine Brett (R-TX); 2037-2045

30 years into the future, still no woman has been elected president.  Women have come to dominate the Vice Presidency, though.
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« Reply #682 on: February 10, 2019, 12:39:03 PM »
NAME
TERM
FROM
11.Alexander Hamilton
(1757–1840)
1816
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1826
New York
12.Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
1826
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1832
West Virginia
13.Eliza Schuyler Hamilton
(1757–1854)
1832
-
1837
New York
12.Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
1837
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1846
West Virginia
14.Lucretia Mott
(1793–1857)
1846
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1857
(Assassinated)
Pennsylvania
15.Abraham Lincoln
(1809–1888)
1857
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1869
Illiniweck
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« Reply #683 on: February 10, 2019, 12:42:24 PM »
Quote from: Sherrod Brown 2020 on February 09, 2019, 05:40:31 PM
Obama as Clinton

44. Barack Obama/Evan Bayh 2009-2017
45. Jeb Bush/John Thune 2017-2025
46. Julian Castro/Chris Murphy 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2008: Mitt Romney/George Allen
2012: John McCain/Tom Ridge
2016: Evan Bayh/Kent Conrad
2020: Tim Kaine/Cory Booker
2024: Rob Portman/Kim Reynolds

These X as Y lists are great!
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« Reply #684 on: February 10, 2019, 01:05:21 PM »
Quote from: President Johnson on February 10, 2019, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: Sherrod Brown 2020 on February 09, 2019, 05:40:31 PM
Obama as Clinton

44. Barack Obama/Evan Bayh 2009-2017
45. Jeb Bush/John Thune 2017-2025
46. Julian Castro/Chris Murphy 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2008: Mitt Romney/George Allen
2012: John McCain/Tom Ridge
2016: Evan Bayh/Kent Conrad
2020: Tim Kaine/Cory Booker
2024: Rob Portman/Kim Reynolds

These X as Y lists are great!

Thanks!
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« Reply #685 on: February 10, 2019, 02:08:52 PM »
Quote from: El Bayamιs on February 10, 2019, 12:39:03 PM
NAME
TERM
FROM
11.Alexander Hamilton
(1757–1840)
1816
-
1826
New York
12.Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
1826
-
1832
West Virginia
13.Eliza Schuyler Hamilton
(1757–1854)
1832
-
1837
New York
12.Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
1837
-
1846
West Virginia
14.Lucretia Mott
(1793–1857)
1846
-
1857
(Assassinated)
Pennsylvania
15.Abraham Lincoln
(1809–1888)
1857
-
1869
Illiniweck

Henry Clay was from Kentucky. West Virginia did not exist until 1862.
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« Reply #686 on: February 10, 2019, 05:12:25 PM »

I feel like there are some other hints in this list that should tell you this is not the same timeline as in real life. I decided to call the place Henry Clay is from "West Virginia" to give the list a little world-building.
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« Reply #687 on: February 10, 2019, 05:17:34 PM »
Quote from: El Bayamιs on February 10, 2019, 05:12:25 PM

I feel like there are some other hints in this list that should tell you this is not the same timeline as in real life. I decided to call the place Henry Clay is from "West Virginia" to give the list a little world-building.
This list is totally unrealistic anyway. Henry Clay was never President! How can he be on a list of alternate Presidents if he was never President? I am very confused and angry!
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« Reply #688 on: February 10, 2019, 05:36:48 PM »
Quote from: Big Daddy Gonna Take Care Of Us on February 10, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: El Bayamιs on February 10, 2019, 05:12:25 PM

I feel like there are some other hints in this list that should tell you this is not the same timeline as in real life. I decided to call the place Henry Clay is from "West Virginia" to give the list a little world-building.
This list is totally unrealistic anyway. Henry Clay was never President! How can he be on a list of alternate Presidents if he was never President? I am very confused and angry!

Honestly I thought "Illiniweck" would be more noticeable
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« Reply #689 on: February 12, 2019, 09:06:58 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2019, 08:49:54 PM by Sherrod Brown 2020 »
Nixon as FDR

37. Richard Nixon/Gerald R. Ford 1969-1977, William Scranton 1977-1981, William Roth 1981
38. William Roth/vacant 1981, Howard Baker 1981-1989
39. Bernard Rogers/Tom Daschle 1989-1997
40. George W. Bush/Alan Simpson 1997-1999
41. Alan Simpson/vacant 1999, Rudy Giuliani 1999-2005
42. Tom Daschle/Bill Richardson 2005-2009, vacant 2009, Jim Clyburn 2009-2010
43. Jim Clyburn/vacant 2010, Howard Dean 2010-2013
44. Bob Riley/Mike Lee 2013-2017
45. Russ Feingold/Kasim Reed 2017-2025
46. Kasim Reed/Kyrsten Sinema 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1968: Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert Humphrey
1972: George Wallace/Sam Yorty
1976: Walter Washington/Ted Kennedy
1980: Jerry Brown/Richard Lamm
1984: Jerry Brown/Mario Cuomo
1988: Dick Thornburgh/Dan Quayle
1992: Dick Thornburgh/Bob Kasten
1996: Tom Daschle/Jay Rockefeller
2000: Paul Wellstone/Ed Rendell
2004: Rudy Giuliani/Judd Gregg
2008: Sam Brownback/Fred Thompson/Rob Portman
2012: Jim Clyburn/Barack Obama
2016: Bob Riley/Mike Lee
2020: Mike Lee/Ann Wagner
2024: Greg Abbott/Mark Kirk
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« Reply #690 on: February 15, 2019, 01:52:19 AM »
Here's my list of alternate presidents. I kept the years and home states the same, but with a twist--- it has to be someone of the opposition political party from whoever was president IRL.

1. Patrick Henry (Virginia, 1789-97)
2. Elbridge Gerry (Massachusetts, 1797-1801)
3. Timothy Pickering (Virginia, 1801-1809)
4. John Marshall (Virginia, 1809-1817)
5. Henry Lee III (Virginia, 1817-1825)
6. Joseph Story (Massachusetts, 1825-1829)
7. Davy Crockett (Tennessee, 1829-1837)
8. John W. Taylor (New York, 1837-1841)
9. Ethan Allen Brown (Ohio, 1841)
10. Philip Pendleton Barbour (Virginia, 1841-1845)
11. John Bell (Tennessee, 1845-1849)
12. Henry Johnson (Louisiana, 1849-1850)
13. William Maclay (New York, 1850-1853)
14. John Hale (New Hampshire, 1853-1857)
15. Thaddeus Stevens (Pennsylvania, 1857-1861)
16. Stephen Douglas (Illinois, 1861-1865)
17. Andrew Jackson Donelson (Tennessee, 1865-1869)
18. Augustus French (Illinois, 1869-1877)
19. William Rosencrans (Ohio, 1877-1881)
20. Thomas Ewing, Jr. (Ohio, 1881)
21. Philip Becker (New York, 1881-1885)
22. Chauncey Depew (New York, 1885-1889)
23. Walter Q. Gresham (Indiana, 1889-1893)
24. Chauncey Depew (New York, 1893-1897)
25. George Custer (Ohio, 1897-1901)
26. David B. Hill (New York, 1901-1909)
27. Thomas L. Johnson (Ohio, 1909-1913)
28. Mahlon Pitney (New Jersey, 1913-1921)
29. Henry Thomas Hunt (Ohio, 1921-1923)
30. John Fitzgerald (Massachusetts, 1923-1929)
31. Upton Sinclair (California, 1929-1933)
32. Daniel Reed (New York, 1933-1945)
33. Maxwell Taylor (Missouri, 1945-1953)
34. George Docking (Kansas, 1953-1961)
35. Henry Cabot Lodge (Massachusetts, 1961-1963)
36. John Connally (Texas, 1963-1969)
37. Pat Brown (California, 1969-1974)
38. Martha Griffiths (Michigan, 1974-1977)
39. Bo Calloway (Georgia, 1977-1981)
40. Jerry Brown (California, 1981-1989)
41. Lloyd Bentsen (Texas, 1989-1993)
42. Win Rockefeller (Arkansas, 1993-2001)
43. Henry Cisneros  (Texas, 2001-2009)
44. Joe Walsh (2009-2017)
45. Kirsten Gillibrand (2017- )
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« Reply #691 on: February 15, 2019, 01:59:23 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2019, 02:32:05 PM by olowakandi »
Lincoln , Romney, KENNEDY & CUOMO Continues......

25)cc-IL Robert "Todd" Lincoln (1897-1905)
26)P-NEB BRYAN-JENNINGS (1905-1909)
27)cc-NY CE Hughes (1909-1917)
28)P-NEB BRYAN-JENNINGS (1917-1925) WWI
29)T-OR HC Hoover (1925-1933)
30)S-NY FDR (1933-41) "GREAT DEPRESSION"
31)P-MO HS TRUMAN (1941-1949) WWII
32)cc-CA R.M Nixon (1949-57) KOREAN WAR
33)S-IL A.STEVENSON (1957-65) VIETNAM WAR
34)S-NY "BOBBY" KENNEDY (1965-69) Resolves Vietnam War
35)cc-MI Romney Sr. (1969-1977)
36)S-MA T KENNEDY (1977-1985)
37)T-TX GH Bush (1985-1993) GULF WAR I & COLD WAR
38)S-NY M CUOMO (1993-2001)
39)cc-NY G Pataki(2001-2009) 911 & GULF WAR II
40)T-UT M Romney(2009-2013) STOCK market Crashes
41)S-NY A CUOMO(2013-2021)

Country would have been spared of Watergate, Iran Contra and Kremlin Scandle and aftermath of Bay of Pigs which assassinations.
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« Reply #692 on: February 16, 2019, 11:21:50 AM »
W as Carter

43. George W. Bush/John Danforth 2001-2005
44. Bill Bradley/Bill Richardson 2005-2013
45. Bill Richardson/Sherrod Brown 2013-2017
46. Chris Christie/Pat Toomey 2017-2025
47. Michelle Lujan Grisham/Jack Lew 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2000: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman
2004: George W. Bush/John Danforth
2008: John Danforth/Elizabeth Dole
2012: Mitch Daniels/Phil Gramm
2016: Bill Richardson/Sherrod Brown
2020: Joe Lieberman/Luis Gutierrez
2024: Pat Toomey/Jeff Flake
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« Reply #693 on: February 20, 2019, 07:15:28 PM »
PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
45. Donald John Trump (Republican, New York) 2017 – 2023 †
46. Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) 2023 – 2025
47. Jeffrey Alan Merkley (Democratic, Oregon) 2025 – 2028 †
48. Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg (Democratic, Indiana) 2028 – 2029 ‡
49. Ben Ray Lujαn (Democratic, New Mexico) 2029 – 2029 *
50. Juliαn Castro (Democratic, Texas) 2029 – 2031 ^
51. Stephen Joseph Scalise (Republican, Louisiana) 2031 – 2033
52. Thomas Bryant Cotton (Republican, Arkansas) 2033 – 2041
53. Michael Patrick Guest (Republican, Mississippi) 2041 – 2043 ^
54. Jason Thomas Smith (Republican, Missouri) 2043 – 2045
55. Ivanka Marie Trump (Independent, New York) 2045 – 2049
56. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democratic, New York) 2049 –

† Died of natural causes          ‡ Assassinated          * Interim president          ^ Impeached
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« Reply #694 on: February 22, 2019, 12:46:54 AM »
1969-1973: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie
1973-1979: Ronald Reagan/Nelson Rockefeller
1979: Ronald Reagan/Vacant
1979-1981: Ronald Reagan/John Connally
1981-1989: Ted Kennedy/Dale Bumpers
1989-1997: Pierre du Pont/Bob Dole
1997-2005: Ann Richards/Dick Gephardt
2005-2009: Mike Huckabee/Carly Fiorina
2009-2017: Howard Dean/Carol Moseley Braun
2017-present: Charlie Baker/Tim Scott
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« Reply #695 on: February 22, 2019, 07:11:46 PM »
2001-2009: George W. Bush (Republican, Texas)
2009-2017: Barack Obama (Democratic, Illinois)
2017-2021: Donald Trump (Republican, New York)
2021-2025: Hillary Clinton (Democratic, New York)
2025-2033: Adam Laxalt (Republican, Nevada)
2033-2041: Jon Bruning (Republican, Nebraska)
2041-2049: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democratic, New York)
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« Reply #696 on: February 22, 2019, 07:42:20 PM »
Quote from: bronz4141 on February 22, 2019, 07:11:46 PM
2001-2009: George W. Bush (Republican, Texas)
2009-2017: Barack Obama (Democratic, Illinois)
2017-2021: Donald Trump (Republican, New York)
2021-2025: Hillary Clinton (Democratic, New York)
2025-2033: Adam Laxalt (Republican, Nevada)
2033-2041: Jon Bruning (Republican, Nebraska)
2041-2049: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democratic, New York)

Does Clinton win in a rematch in this scenario?
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« Reply #697 on: February 22, 2019, 07:43:22 PM »
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Quote from: bronz4141 on February 22, 2019, 07:11:46 PM
2001-2009: George W. Bush (Republican, Texas)
2009-2017: Barack Obama (Democratic, Illinois)
2017-2021: Donald Trump (Republican, New York)
2021-2025: Hillary Clinton (Democratic, New York)
2025-2033: Adam Laxalt (Republican, Nevada)
2033-2041: Jon Bruning (Republican, Nebraska)
2041-2049: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democratic, New York)

Does Clinton win in a rematch in this scenario?

Yes, she wins a rematch by winning 50% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #698 on: February 23, 2019, 05:18:18 PM »
Carter as Kennedy

39. Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale 1977-1979
40. Walter Mondale/vacant 1979, Lloyd Bentsen 1979-1985
41. John Connally/Ronald Reagan 1985-1989, vacant 1989, Dick Cheney 1989-1990
42. Dick Cheney/vacant 1990, Paul Laxalt 1990-1993
43. Bill Clinton/Harris Wofford 1993-1997
44. Thomas Kean/Donald Rumsfeld 1997-2005
45. Donald Rumsfeld/Tim Hutchinson 2005-2009
46. Mark Warner/Blanche Lincoln 2009-2017
47. Bruce Rauner/Tom Ridge 2017-2025
48. Kamala Harris/Chris Coons 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1976: John Connally/Charles Percy
1980: Jesse Helms/Jack Kemp
1984: Lloyd Bentsen/Claiborne Pell
1988: Paul Simon/Gary Hart/Andrew Young
1992: Dick Cheney/Phil Gramm
1996: Bill Clinton/Harris Wofford
2000: Harris Wofford/Jeanne Shaheen
2004: Howard Dean/Bob Graham
2008: Donald Rumsfeld/Tim Hutchinson
2012: Phil Gramm/John Kasich
2016: Blanche Lincoln/Angus King
2020: Joe Sestak/Kay Hagan
2024: Cory Gardner/Kristi Noem
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« Reply #699 on: February 26, 2019, 01:11:32 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2019, 04:33:22 PM by Harry S Truman »
The Popular Presidency
Jacksonians answer the "Corrupt Bargain" of 1824 with the abolition of the electoral college

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
7. Andrew Jackson (Democratic, Tennessee) 1829 – 1837
8. Martin Van Buren (Democratic, New York) 1837 – 1841
9. William Henry Harrison (Whig, Ohio) 1841 – 1841 †
10. John Tyler (Unaffiliated, Virginia) 1841 – 1845
11. James Knox Polk (Democratic, Tennessee) 1845 – 1849 *
12. Zachary Taylor (Whig, Louisiana) 1849 – 1850 †
13. Millard Fillmore (Whig, New York) 1850 – 1853
14. Franklin Pierce (Democratic, New Hampshire) 1853 – 1857
15. Millard Fillmore (American, New York) 1857 – 1861
16. Stephen Arnold Douglas (Democratic, Illinois) 1861 – 1861 *†
17. Herschel Vespasian Johnson (Democratic, Georgia) 1861 – 1865
18. Henry Smith Lane (Republican and Unionist, Indiana) 1865 – 1869 *
19. David Glasgow Farragut (Republican and Unionist, Tennessee) 1869 – 1870 †
20. Schuyler Colfax (Republican, Indiana) 1870 – 1873
21. James Gillespie Blaine (Republican, Maine) 1873 – 1881 ͺ
22. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican, Ohio) 1881 – 1881 *‡
23. George Franklin Edmunds (Republican, Vermont) 1881 – 1889
24. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) 1889 – 1893 *
25. Benjamin Harrison (Republican, Indiana) 1893 – 1897 *
26. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic—Populist, Nebraska) 1897 – 1901
27. William McKinley (Republican, Ohio) 1901 – 1901 ‡
28. Henry Clay Evans (Republican, Tennessee) 1901 – 1909
29. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, New York) 1909 – 1921
30. William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic, New York) 1921 – 1929
31. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (Democratic, Pennsylvania) 1929 – 1933
32. Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican, California) 1933 – 1937
33. Fiorello Henry La Guardia (Labor, New York) 1937 – 1947 *†
34. William Orville Douglas (Labor, Minnesota) 1947 – 1949
35. Dwight David Eisenhower (New Republican, Kansas) 1949 – 1957
36. John William Bricker (New Republican, Ohio) 1957 – 1961
37. Joseph Patrick Kennedy, Jr. (Democratic Labor, Massachusetts) 1961 – 1961 *‡
38. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic Labor, Minnesota) 1961 – 1969
39. Birch Evans Bayh (Democratic Labor, Indiana) 1969 – 1977 *
40. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) 1977 – 1985
41. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic Labor, Minnesota) 1985 – 1989
42. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Connecticut) 1989 – 1997
43. Paul David Wellstone (Democratic Labor, Minnesota) 1997 – 2002 *‡
—. Joseph Robinette Biden (Democratic Labor, Delaware) 2002 – 2003
45. Daniel Ray Coats (Republican, Indiana) 2003 – 2009 ^
46. Johnny Reid Edwards (Democratic Labor, North Carolina) 2009 – 2013
47. Mitchell Elias Daniels (Republican, Indiana) 2013 – Incumbent

† Died of natural causes
‡ Assassinated
* Elected by the House in absence of a popular majority
^ Won in a special election (Amendment XXV, ratified 1967)
ͺ Re-elected following a Congressional recount
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