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« Reply #325 on: January 05, 2018, 11:51:15 AM »

Scenario 1: The New Republican Majority
29. Warren G. Harding (Republican-OH) 3/4/1921-8/2/1923
30. Calvin Coolidge (Republican-MA) 8/2/1923-3/4/1929

31. Al Smith (Democrat-NY) 3/4/1929-3/4/1933
32. William E. Borah (Republican-ID) 3/4/1933-1/19/1940*
33. Herbert Hoover (Republican-CA) 1/19/1940-1/20/1949
34. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican-NY) 1/20/1949-1/20/1957

35. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat-TX) 1/20/1957-1/20/1961
36. Richard Nixon (Republican-CA) 1/20/1961-11/22/1963†*
37. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican-MA) 11/22/1963-1/20/1969

38. John F. Kennedy (Democrat-MA) 1/20/1969-1/20/1977
39. John Anderson (Republican-IL) 1/20/1977-1/20/1985
40. Walter Mondale (Democrat-MN) 1/20/1985-1/20/1993
41. Jack Kemp (Republican-NY) 1/20/1993-1/20/2001
42. Al Gore (Democrat-TN) 1/20/2001-1/20/2009
43. Mitt Romney (Republican-MA) 1/20/2009-1/20/2017
44. Elizabeth Warren (Democrat-MA) 1/20/2017-

*Died in office of natural causes.
†Assassinated.

Vice Presidents
29. Calvin Coolidge (Republican-MA) 3/4/1921-8/2/1923
Vacant 8/2/1923-3/4/1925
30. Charles Dawes (Republican-IL) 3/4/1925-3/4/1929
31. Joseph Robinson (Democrat-AR) 3/4/1929-3/4/1933
32. Herbert Hoover (Republican-CA) 3/4/1933-1/19/1940
Vacant 1/19/1940-1/20/1941
33. Alf Landon (Republican-KS) 1/20/1941-1/20/1945
34. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican-NY) 1/20/1945-1/20/1949
35. Earl Warren (Republican-CA) 1/20/1949-10/5/1953*
36. John Bricker (Republican-OH) 11/10/1953-1/20/1957

37. Estes Kefauver (Democrat-TN) 1/20/1957-1/20/1961
38. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican-MA) 1/20/1961-11/22/1963
Vacant 11/22/1963-1/20/1965
39. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-NY) 1/20/1965-1/20/1969
40. Hubert Humphrey (Democrat-MN) 1/20/1969-1/20/1977
41. Bob Dole (Republican-KS) 1/20/1977-1/20/1985
42. Gary Hart (Democrat-CO) 1/20/1985-5/8/1987†
Vacant 5/8/1987-6/24/1987
43. Geraldine Ferraro (Democrat-NY) 6/24/1987-1/20/1993
44. John McCain (Republican-AZ) 1/20/1993-1/20/2001
45. Dick Gephardt (Democrat-MO) 1/20/2001-1/20/2009
46. Tom Ridge (Republican-PA) 1/20/2009-1/20/2017
47. Cory Booker (Democrat-NJ) 1/20/2017-

*Resigned to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
†Resigned due to revelations of an extramarital affair.

37) Estes Kefauver (Populist-TN) 1969-1977
Kefauver died in 1963.
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« Reply #326 on: January 05, 2018, 11:52:33 AM »

The PoD is in the '30s/'40s, so perhaps Kefauver's death is butterflied until later.
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« Reply #327 on: January 10, 2018, 02:04:58 PM »

37. Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Gov. John Connally (D-TX) 1969-1973

38. Gov. Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Sen. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) 1973-1977

39. Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1977-1985

40. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Sen. John Glenn (D-TN) 1985-1989

41. Sen. George Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1989-1997

42. Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) 1997-2005

43. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Fmr. Sec. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 2005-2013

44. Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 2013-2021

45. Gov. Hillary Rodham Romney (R-MA)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2021-2029

46. Sen. Andrew Beshear (D-KY)/Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) 2029-2037
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« Reply #328 on: January 10, 2018, 03:38:10 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2018, 04:31:44 PM by New Tennessean Politician »

34. Walt Disney (R-MO) [1949-1957]*
VP: Cecil B. DeMille

1948:


Disney/Demille: 366/76.5%
Kefauver/Harriman: 165/22.5%



1952:


Disney/DeMille: 476/78.4%
Stevensen/Lausche: 55/16.6%



35. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-TX) [1957-1965]
VP: Richard M. Nixon

1956:


Eisenhower/Nixon: 330/67.8%

Lausche/Harriman: 201/31.2%



1960:


Eisenhower/Nixon: 361/73.4%
Kennedy/Johnson: 176/24.6%



36. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) [1965-1973]
VP: Gerald Ford

1964:


Nixon/Ford: 315/48.2%
Brown/Smathers: 223/50.8%



1968:


Nixon/Ford: 454/62.7%
Goldwater/Thurmond: 45/20.3%
Johnson/Regan: 39/13%



37: Gerald Ford (R-MI) [1973-1977]
VP: Bob Dole

1972:


Ford/Dole: 273/52%
Carter/Mondale: 265/48%





38. Bill Clinton (D-AR)[1977-1985]**
VP: Joe L. Evans



1976:


Clinton/Evans: 489/79.3%
Ford/Dole: 49/20.7%



1980:


Clinton/Evans: 510/87.4%
Dole/Bush: 28/12.6%





39. Joe L. Evans (D-TN) [1985-1987]***
VP: Al Gore

1984:


Evans/Gore: 280/55%
Bush/Quayle: 258/44.5%





40. Al Gore ( D-TN) [1987-1997]****
VP: Michael Dukakis



1988:




Gore/Dukakis: 284/53%
Quayle/Dole: 254/47%





1992:




Gore/Dukakis: 275/47%
Bush/Cheney: 263/51%





41. Donald J. Trump (R-NY) [1997-2005]*****
VP: Ross Perot




1996:


Trump/Perot: 274/67%
McConnell/Kasich: 134/20%******
Dukakis/Kennedy: 130/13%*******





2000:




Trump/Perot: 435/76%
Douglas/Romney: 78/14%
Pelosi/Schumer: 25/10%







42. Bernie Sanders (D-VE) [2005-2013]********
VP: Barrack Obama*********

[To be continued in Part II]
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« Reply #329 on: January 10, 2018, 06:03:31 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2018, 06:08:49 PM by New Tennessean Politician »

2004:




Sanders/Obama: 284/44%
McCain/Palin: 187/36%
Perot/Stockdale: 67/20%





2008:




Sanders/Obama: 270/49.9%
Giuliani/Huckabee: 268/ 50.1%







43. Mitt Romney (R-MA) [2013-2017]**********
VP: Paul Ryan



2012:


Romney/Ryan: 332/63%
Obama/Biden: 206/32%







44. Phil Bredesen (CA-TN) [2017-2025]***********
VP: Nick Lampson [2017-2018]+; Jason Altmire [2018-2023]************; Kristen Gilibrand [2023-2025]



2016:




Bredesen/Lampson: 293/59.3%
Hillary Clinton/Kaine: 207/30.5%
Romney/Ryan: 38/10.2%





2020:






Bredesen/Altmire: 414/79%
Kaine/Booker: 62/11%
Cruz/Kasich: 62/8.6%





45. Marco Rubio (R-FL) [2025-present]*************
VP: Scott Walker





2024:




Rubio/Walker: 354/43.4%
Warren/Brown: 184/41.6%
Gilibrand/Altmire: 25%



Facts:

* - Truman doesn't run for re-election due to low approval and Disney is encouraged to run by his friends and Family. He takes the same Policy of Regean in the 80s, leading to the USSR being weakened earlier, 22nd amendment still happens



**- Bill is Representative of Arkansas from 1973-1977; Cold War ends.



***- dies in office via Assassination



****- Governor of Tennessee from 1983-1985; Ohio decides both elections



*****- Sick and tired of Politicians running and ruining the country, Trump creates the Reform Party in 1988 and wins in 1996, being re-elected by wide margins in 2000 due to a better Economy and a National Surplus.



******- Both are Senators for their respective states and have been for 18 years.



*******- Patrick Kennedy, son of JFK



******** - Governor of Vermont from 1973-1989 and Senator of Vermont from 1993-2005





********- Governor of Illinois from 1987-1995 and Senator of Illinois from 1997-2005





**********- Senator of Massachusetts from 1983-2001 and governor of Massachusetts from 2003-2011





***********- His Family moves down to TN in 1953 and they stay there. Senator of Tennessee from 1975-1987 and from 1999-2011, Secretary of State for the Gore Administration from 1987-1997, and Governor of Tennessee from 2011-2017; Creates Centrists for America party in 2014 after Bernie and Romney's Failed presidencies.


+- Assassinated



************- Left due to disagreements with the President



************- Senator of Florida from 2005-2017 and Governor of Florida from 2019-2025
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« Reply #330 on: January 10, 2018, 07:45:39 PM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
That would be the Canadian Federation and the Mexican Republic. The prologue to all this is the collapse of the First Confederacy (what we know as the United States) following the War of American Independence, as the Continental Congress went the way of the Holy Roman Empire. As a result, the original American states never expanded west of the Mississippi River, and Mexico became the dominant North American power after winning her independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century (taking New Orleans in the 1840s and rising to the status of a world military power after intervening on behalf of the Cuban Revolutionaries in the Hundred Days' War of 1898). Canada prospered quietly to the north, growing rich after the oil boom of the 1880s, and won her independence in the Irish fashion shortly before the turn of the century. During the war, she formed an alliance with Britain and Russia (the two remaining old powers in the New World), Mexico, and the Cherokee Nation, as well as other minor North American powers (including the Plains Nations) following the invasion of Dakota in 1939.

Make my alternate history dreams comes true in the New Year—was there a Cold War of sorts between a Canada-led liberal bloc and a collectivist Global South pioneered by some People’s Republic of Mexico? Despite the change, that’s a scenario that is still semi-coherent (though I am unsure how Marxism would spread in a world without the USSR).
That was the general idea. Whether Mexican communism is of the same tenor as Russian Bolshevism is worth asking, but broadly speaking, I imagine a Mexican workers' state arising out of the death of Porfirio Diaz (pushed back a few years to occur in the midst of the First World War), with Emiliano Zapata as our Lenin analogue.
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« Reply #331 on: January 10, 2018, 08:45:47 PM »

2004:




Sanders/Obama: 284/44%
McCain/Palin: 187/36%
Perot/Stockdale: 67/20%
In 2004, Stockdale was suffering from advanced Alzheimer's - he died the next year.
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« Reply #332 on: January 10, 2018, 09:02:13 PM »

2004:




Sanders/Obama: 284/44%
McCain/Palin: 187/36%
Perot/Stockdale: 67/20%
In 2004, Stockdale was suffering from advanced Alzheimer's - he died the next year.

Since the POD is in 1948, I think that Stockdale's Alzheimer's has been butterflied away for at least a few years.
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« Reply #333 on: January 10, 2018, 09:38:59 PM »
« Edited: January 11, 2018, 01:06:27 AM by razze »

(1880-1920 except it's 2000-2040)


43. Al Gore, Democratic-TN (2001) / VP Paul Wellstone, D-MN (2001)
44. Paul Wellstone, D-MN (2001-2005) / No VP
45. George W. Bush, Republican-TX (2005-2009) / VP George Pataki, R-NY (2005-2009)
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-IL (2009-2013) / VP Evan Bayh, D-IN (2009-2013)
47. George W. Bush, R-TX (2013-2017) / VP John Kasich, R-OH (2013-2017)
48. Joe Biden, D-DE (2017-2021) / VP Crisanta Duran, D-CO (2017-2019), VP Jason Kander, D-MO (2021)
49. Jason Kander, D-MO (2021-2029) / VP Pam Keith, D-FL (2025-2029)
50. Hala Ayala, D-VA (2029-2033) / VP Seth Moulton, D-MA (2029-2032)
51. Sean Reyes, R-UT (2033-2041) / VP Mike Pantelides, R-MD (2033-2041)
52. P.G. Sittenfeld, D-OH (2041-present) / VP Jack Schlossberg, D-NY (2041-present)

  • 2000: Sen. Gore/Sen. Wellstone, 48% def. Sec. Colin Powell (R-NY)/Rep. John Kasich (R-OH), 48%
  • 2004: Gov. Bush/Gov. Pataki, 49% def. Sec. John Kerry (D-MA)/Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD), 48%
  • 2008: Sen. Clinton/Gov. Bayh, 48% def. Pres. Bush/Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH), 48%
  • 2012: Fmr. Pres. Bush/Gov. John Kasich, 46% def. Pres. Clinton/Amb. Bill Richardson (D-NM), 43% & Rep. Steve King (Freedom-IA)/State AG Ken Cuccinelli (F-VA), 8%
  • 2016: Sen. Biden/CO House Spkr. Duran, 51% def. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)/Carly Fiorina (R-VA)/Fmr. Gov. Sarah Palin (F-AK), 47%
  • 2020: Pres. Biden/Gov. Kander, 52% def. Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)/Fmr. VP Kasich, 46%
  • 2024: Pres. Kander/Sen. Keith, 56% def. Fmr. Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)/Sen. Jeb Bush (R-FL), 38%
  • 2028: Sec. Ayala/Sen. Moulton, 52% def. Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)/Sen. Cory Gardner (R-CO), 43%
  • 2032: Sen. Reyes/Gov. Pantelides, 42% def. Gov. Chris Pappas (Progressive-NH)/Gov. Lee Jin Carter (P-VA), 27% & Pres. Ayala (D-VA)/VP Moulton (D-MA), 23% & Rep. Kaniela Ing (Democratic Socialist-HI)/Rep. Tim Ashe (DS-VT), 6%
  • 2036: Pres. Reyes/VP Pantelides, 49% def. Justice Goodwin Liu (D-CA)/Fmr. VP Keith, 46%
  • 2040: Sen. Sittenfeld/Sen. Schlossberg, 60% def. Gov. Byung J. Pak (R-GA)/Assis. Sec. Aundré Bumgardner (R-CT), 34%
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« Reply #334 on: January 11, 2018, 08:48:07 AM »

1957-2001 but starting today

46. Admiral Bill McRaven (D-TX)/Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) 2021-2029

47. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AK)/Sen. John Thune (R-SD) 2029-2031

48. Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Sen. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) 2031-2037

49. Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ)/Gov. Tina Kotek (D-OR), House Majority Leader Tim Ryan (D-OH) 2037-2041 (Booker-Kotek), 2041-2043 (Booker-Ryan)

50. Vice Pres. Tim Ryan (D-OH)/Sen. Kathy Tran (D-VA) 2043-2045

51. Gov. Saira Blair (R-WV)/Sen. Aaron Schock (R-IL) 2045-2049

52. Gov. Joseph Kennedy III (D-MA)/Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) 2049-2057

53. Vice Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Nathan Blair (D-WV) 2057-2061

54. Gov. Chandler Thornton (R-MD)/Sen. Jessica Browning (R-TX) ( 2061-2069
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« Reply #335 on: January 11, 2018, 08:59:48 AM »

1957-2001 but starting today
53. Vice Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Nathan Blair (D-WV) 2057-2061
Shameless self-insert as Dan Quayle? Tongue
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« Reply #336 on: January 11, 2018, 09:23:49 AM »

1957-2001 but starting today
53. Vice Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Nathan Blair (D-WV) 2057-2061
Shameless self-insert as Dan Quayle? Tongue

Absolutely. I do the morning announcements in my high school, and after fifteen years of saying it every morning, today I flubbed the pledge of allegiance. "Potatoe" isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
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« Reply #337 on: January 12, 2018, 03:13:41 PM »

32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY) [1933-1937]-A

33. Henry A. Wallace{*} (D-CT) [1937-1941]-P

34. Huey Long (D-LA) [1941-1949]

35. Joseph P. Kennedy (D-NY) [1949-1951]-R

36. Upton Sinclair (D-MD) [1951-1957]

37. Fred Trump (R-NY) [1957-1965]

38. Walt Disney (R-MO) [1965-1973]

39. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) [1973-1979]-R

40. Jimmy Carter (R-NC) [1979-1981]

41. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) [1981-1989]

42. Joseph Clinton (D-AR) [1989-1997]

43. Alfred Gore (D-LA) [1997-2001]

44. Benjamin Bredesen (R-TN) [2001-2009]

45. John E. Obama (R-IN) [2009-2013]-P

46. Donald J. Trump (R-VA) [2013-2019]-A

47. Carl McConnel (R-KY) [2019-2021]

48. Alfred Sanders (S-VT) [2021-2029] {**}

49. Ronald Brown (S-IL) [2029-2033]

50. John Rubio (C-GA) [2033-Present] {***}



A - Assassinated

P - Primaried

R - Resigned

{*} - John Nance Garner dies in 1935 and is replaced with Henry in 1936, to the disgruntlement of the Dems

{**} - Socialist Party formed from Remnants of Democratic Party after the humiliating loss in the 2012 Election to Trump and the GOP

{***} - Conservative Party after terrible performance of GOP in 2024; Created from Rubio to be a credible challenge to the socialists


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« Reply #338 on: January 12, 2018, 04:07:51 PM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
That would be the Canadian Federation and the Mexican Republic. The prologue to all this is the collapse of the First Confederacy (what we know as the United States) following the War of American Independence, as the Continental Congress went the way of the Holy Roman Empire. As a result, the original American states never expanded west of the Mississippi River, and Mexico became the dominant North American power after winning her independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century (taking New Orleans in the 1840s and rising to the status of a world military power after intervening on behalf of the Cuban Revolutionaries in the Hundred Days' War of 1898). Canada prospered quietly to the north, growing rich after the oil boom of the 1880s, and won her independence in the Irish fashion shortly before the turn of the century. During the war, she formed an alliance with Britain and Russia (the two remaining old powers in the New World), Mexico, and the Cherokee Nation, as well as other minor North American powers (including the Plains Nations) following the invasion of Dakota in 1939.

Make my alternate history dreams comes true in the New Year—was there a Cold War of sorts between a Canada-led liberal bloc and a collectivist Global South pioneered by some People’s Republic of Mexico? Despite the change, that’s a scenario that is still semi-coherent (though I am unsure how Marxism would spread in a world without the USSR).
That was the general idea. Whether Mexican communism is of the same tenor as Russian Bolshevism is worth asking, but broadly speaking, I imagine a Mexican workers' state arising out of the death of Porfirio Diaz (pushed back a few years to occur in the midst of the First World War), with Emiliano Zapata as our Lenin analogue.

What do we imagine Russia to be in this world?
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« Reply #339 on: January 14, 2018, 09:55:41 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2018, 09:57:28 PM by Ninja0428 »

34) Thomas E Dewey (1949-1953)
35) W. Averell Harriman (1953-1957)
36) Joseph McCarthy (1957-1957) (Died in Office)
37) J Edgar Hoover (1957-1959) (Impeached and Ejected)
38) Sam Rayburn (1959-1961)
39) John F Kennedy (1961-1969)
40) Martin Luther King, Jr. (1969-1977)
41) Nelson Rockefeller (1977-1982) (Died In Office)
42) John Anderson (1982-1989)
43) Al Gore (1989-1997)
44) Michael Dukakis (1997-2001)
45) John McCain (2001-2005)
46) Hillary Clinton (2005-2009)
47) Mitt Romney (2009-2013)
48) John Conyers (2013-2018) (Resigned)
49) Joe Biden (2018-2021)
50) Marco Rubio (2021-2029)
51) Jason Kander (2029-)
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« Reply #340 on: January 15, 2018, 12:59:28 AM »

Willie Who???

41. Michael Dukakis / Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)Sad 1989-1997
42. Clint Eastwood / Connie Mac III (Republican)Sad 1997-2005
43. John Edwards / Joe Lieberman (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
44. John McCain / Mike Huckabee (Republican)Sad 2009-2013
45. Joe Biden / Blanche Lincoln (Democratic)Sad 2013-2021
46. John Huntsman / Scott Walker (Republican): 2021-Incumbent
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« Reply #341 on: January 17, 2018, 12:38:26 AM »

33. Robert La Follette Jr. (Democratic Progressive) 1945–1950††
34. William Langer (DP-NPL) 1950–1957
35. Estes Kefauver (DP-NPL) 1957–1961

36. Richard Nixon (Republican) 1961–1965
37. George Wallace (New Movement) 1965–1971††
38. Russell Long (New Movement) 1971–1973

39. Wayne Morse (DP-NPL) 1973–1974†
40. Edmund Muskie (DP-NPL) 1974–1977

41. George H. W. Bush (Republican) 1977–1981
42. Frank Church (People's New Movement) 1981–1984†
43. Mike Gravel (People's New Movement) 1984–1993

44. Bob Dole (Republican) 1993–1997
45. Russ Feingold (People's New Movement) 1997–2005
46. Ron Paul (Liberty) 2005–2013
47. Henry Cuellar (Center) 2013–2017
48. Tulsi Gabbard (People's New Movement) 2017–present

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« Reply #342 on: January 22, 2018, 11:29:24 AM »

Executive Experience Required

39) Gov. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1977-1981

40) Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. George Bush (R-TX) 1981-1989

41) Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1989-1997

42) Vice Pres. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2001

43) Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN) 2001-2009

44) Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) 2009-2013

45) Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) 2013-2021

46) Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) 2021-2029

47) Gov. Josh Hawley (R-MO)Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 2029-2037
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« Reply #343 on: January 23, 2018, 12:59:48 AM »

A Different Caretaker:

37. Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)Sad 1969-1973
      Richard Nixon / Vacant (Republican)Sad 1973
      Richard Nixon / Ronald Reagan (Republican)Sad 1973-1974

38. Ronald Reagan / Vacant (Republican)Sad 1974
      Ronald Reagan / Gerald Ford (Republican)Sad 1974-1977

39. Jimmy Carter / Frank Church (Democratic): 1977-1981

40. Howard Baker / Jack Kemp (Republican)Sad 1981-1989

41. Walter Mondale / Al Gore (Democratic)Sad 1989-1997

42. Al Gore / Evan Bayh (Democratic)Sad 1997-2001

43. George Pataki / John Kasich (Republican)Sad 2001-2009

44. John Kasich / Mitt Romney (Republican)Sad 2009-2013

45. Deval Patrick / Sherrod Brown (Democratic)Sad 2013-2021

46. Jon Huntsman / Tim Scott (Republican)Sad 2021-Incumbent
   
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« Reply #344 on: January 23, 2018, 11:14:32 AM »
« Edited: January 23, 2018, 12:01:42 PM by sverkol »

1949-1957-Thomas Dewey
1957-1965-Hubert Humphrey
1965-1969-Henry M. Jackson

1969-1977-Nelson Rockefeller
1977-1985-John Connally

1985-1989-Gary Hart
1989-1997-Bob Dole
1997-2005-Tom Harkin
2005-2013-Elizabeth Dole
2013-2021-George Clooney (elected as california governor in 2003)
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« Reply #345 on: January 23, 2018, 06:29:50 PM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-Calif.) 1981-1989, VP Howard Baker
41. George H. W. Bush (R-Texas) 1989-1991, VP John R. Kasich
42. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) 1991-2009, VP's James A. Baker (92-93), Elizabeth Dole (93-01), John S. McCain (01-05), J.C. Watts (05-09)
43. Barack H. Obama (D-Ill.) 2009-2013, VP Hillary Rodham Clinton
44. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) 2013-2017, VP's Michael Bloomberg (13-17), Marco Rubio (17)
45. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2017-2021, VP Mike Pence (18-21)
46. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) 2021-2025, VP Chris Murphy
47. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2025-2029, VP Nikki Haley
48. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) 2029-2030, VP Ralph Northam
49. Ralph Northam (D-Va.) 2030-2033, VP Jason Kander (30-33)
50. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2033, VP Tom Cotton
51. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) 2033, No VP
52. *Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) 2033-present, No VP (Nominated Walt Maddox)

*- Elevated from Speaker of the House
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« Reply #346 on: January 23, 2018, 10:07:54 PM »

1949-1957-Thomas Dewey
1957-1965-Hubert Humphrey
1965-1969-Henry M. Jackson

1969-1977-Nelson Rockefeller
1977-1985-John Connally

1985-1989-Gary Hart
1989-1997-Bob Dole
1997-2005-Tom Harkin
2005-2013-Elizabeth Dole
2013-2021-George Clooney (elected as california governor in 2003)


If the Republicans do not pursue a "Southern Strategy" by the 1970s, then Connally most likely stays a Democrat.
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« Reply #347 on: January 23, 2018, 10:09:09 PM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-Calif.) 1981-1989, VP Howard Baker
41. George H. W. Bush (R-Texas) 1989-1991, VP John R. Kasich
42. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) 1991-2009, VP's James A. Baker (92-93), Elizabeth Dole (93-01), John S. McCain (01-05), J.C. Watts (05-09)
43. Barack H. Obama (D-Ill.) 2009-2013, VP Hillary Rodham Clinton
44. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) 2013-2017, VP's Michael Bloomberg (13-17), Marco Rubio (17)
45. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2017-2021, VP Mike Pence (18-21)
46. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) 2021-2025, VP Chris Murphy
47. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2025-2029, VP Nikki Haley
48. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) 2029-2030, VP Ralph Northam
49. Ralph Northam (D-Va.) 2030-2033, VP Jason Kander (30-33)
50. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2033, VP Tom Cotton
51. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) 2033, No VP
52. *Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) 2033-present, No VP (Nominated Walt Maddox)

*- Elevated from Speaker of the House

What is the POD? And why does Kasich serve more than 2 terms?
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« Reply #348 on: January 23, 2018, 10:32:27 PM »


What is the POD? And why does Kasich serve more than 2 terms?

POD is no XXII Amendment and also I just wanted to make something a little odd but still plausible (if you don't think too hard, that is)
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« Reply #349 on: January 30, 2018, 06:19:41 PM »

The Libertarian Renaissance

42. Ron Paul (Libertarian-Texas) 1993–2001
43. Andre Marrou (Libertarian-Alaska) 2001–2005
44. Rand Paul (Libertarian-Kentucky) 2005–2009
45. Dennis Kucinich (United Front-Ohio) 2009–2017
46. Jill Stein (Green-Massachusetts) 2017–present

The Dissolution

Presidents
45. Penn Jillette (Libertarian-Nevada) 2013–2021
46. Adam Kokesh (Libertarian-New Mexico) 2021–2022

Overseers of the Abolition
46. Adam Kokesh (Libertarian-New Mexico) 2022–2029
47. The Market 2029–present
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