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« on: March 31, 2017, 01:10:54 PM »

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     This could have gone in either US or Int'l General Discussion, but I decided to put it here. Not sure if Juncker is serious here or trolling, but it amused me greatly.
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2017, 01:15:32 PM »

juncker is famous for his dry humour.

pretty clear, if you look at the quote.

and yeah...trump should mind his own business and not try to damage allies.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2017, 01:17:45 PM »

and yeah...trump should mind his own business and not try to damage allies.

But that's the whole reason why Putin made him president...
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 01:18:11 PM »

Juncker is famous for his skilled trolling

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2017, 02:26:31 PM »

Since the thread is here.....fanboy-mode: THIS is europe.


https://mobile.twitter.com/FolktalesEU/status/846283235319599106/video/1
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2017, 04:51:29 PM »

Trump should take Junker seriously and respond by having Tillerson and others make a formal diplomatic protest. Of course, he knows nothing about diplomacy, so he probably just tweet about it, but this is a pretty serious breach of diplomatic norms and we'd be perfectly justified in responding to it as such.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 04:53:16 PM »

Juncker should be glad about Brexit because it has brought the rest of the EU that much closer together.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2017, 01:03:54 PM »

a revealing statement of how Juncker views himself and the EU in regard to its member countries.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2017, 08:19:18 PM »

May have been a joke but Juncker is a joke himself.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2017, 09:47:24 PM »

I doubt Trump minds; nothing like the walking caricature of condescending European cosmopolitan to make his way into our news.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2017, 09:52:37 PM »

i am baffled, how so many here are able to feel outraged about juncker's dry humour but trump's much more real endorsement of EU destruction is a legitimate sentiment? condescending doesn't nearly cut it.

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2017, 10:08:35 PM »

Shine on you crazy drunk man. Smiley I hate him and most Eurocrats, but it is funny how much he triggers the UKIPpers.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2017, 10:24:20 PM »

i am baffled, how so many here are able to feel outraged about juncker's dry humour but trump's much more real endorsement of EU destruction is a legitimate sentiment? condescending doesn't nearly cut it.

Oh, no one cares enough to be outraged. It's a mixture of amusement and eyerolling for the small number of people who heard this news. Perhaps Juncker looks different from your side of the Atlantic but from this side he comes across as a power-hungry bureaucrat who lost a little bit of control.

More broadly, from the American perspective, the very idea of something like the EU is something we could never view any better than a kind of cautious, distant support. A deep suspicion of any movement toward a one-world government is something deeply embedded in our culture and has been since our nation's beginnings.

Most Americans also have something of a caricature, rightly or wrongly, of Europeans being condescending progressives, now with an unhinged hatred of Trump to boot. For instance last fall my roommate (who voted for Hillary) went over to Germany and came back telling me that trip was the only time the entire campaign where he was seriously considering voting for Trump. Somehow Americans view the EU also a sort of personification of that type of arrogance.

No one really likes being told by people in other countries what the right answer is within their own national politics. I understand Trump did that to Britain when he voiced an opinion of Brexit, and Britain would have every right to be outraged. I think most Americans understand that well enough that apart from the most outspoken Trump supporters no one else is really going to defend him opining on the matter. But since Americans more or less view Europe as so overwhelmingly hackish in favor of the Democrats, even legitimate criticisms of Trump from Europe will fall pretty much entirely on deaf ears over here.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2017, 11:07:39 PM »

i am baffled, how so many here are able to feel outraged about juncker's dry humour but trump's much more real endorsement of EU destruction is a legitimate sentiment? condescending doesn't nearly cut it.

Oh, no one cares enough to be outraged. It's a mixture of amusement and eyerolling for the small number of people who heard this news. Perhaps Juncker looks different from your side of the Atlantic but from this side he comes across as a power-hungry bureaucrat who lost a little bit of control.

More broadly, from the American perspective, the very idea of something like the EU is something we could never view any better than a kind of cautious, distant support. A deep suspicion of any movement toward a one-world government is something deeply embedded in our culture and has been since our nation's beginnings.

Most Americans also have something of a caricature, rightly or wrongly, of Europeans being condescending progressives, now with an unhinged hatred of Trump to boot. For instance last fall my roommate (who voted for Hillary) went over to Germany and came back telling me that trip was the only time the entire campaign where he was seriously considering voting for Trump. Somehow Americans view the EU also a sort of personification of that type of arrogance.

No one really likes being told by people in other countries what the right answer is within their own national politics. I understand Trump did that to Britain when he voiced an opinion of Brexit, and Britain would have every right to be outraged. I think most Americans understand that well enough that apart from the most outspoken Trump supporters no one else is really going to defend him opining on the matter. But since Americans more or less view Europe as so overwhelmingly hackish in favor of the Democrats, even legitimate criticisms of Trump from Europe will fall pretty much entirely on deaf ears over here.

I concur
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2017, 11:54:03 PM »

The story here.
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     This could have gone in either US or Int'l General Discussion, but I decided to put it here. Not sure if Juncker is serious here or trolling, but it amused me greatly.

Yawn, they should worry about the ticking time-bomb that is the Euro.
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