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« Reply #625 on: August 20, 2018, 05:44:29 PM »

the Governor's chair won't be up until 2022, which is potentially a midterm under a Democratic president. What is left? Mayor of El Paso? Or cabinet job in a Democratic administration?
TX has no term limits. I doubt Abbott moves unless Cornyn retires and runs for Senate.

I dont think Abbott is interested in DC politics. He could have been a presidential candidate but he doesnt want to so why would he chose the Senate?
He could have, but in 2016 he was only Governor for half a term, not a good look abandoning your state to run for President without much experience.

I think he stated he has no interest in running for president
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« Reply #626 on: August 20, 2018, 06:19:46 PM »

Then finally a Mainstream Republican like Baker, Hogan, Sununu can step in and run for POTUS AND start rebuilding the Republican Party.

This will happen at the same time hell freezes over.
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« Reply #627 on: August 20, 2018, 06:27:52 PM »

Then finally a Mainstream Republican like Baker, Hogan, Sununu can step in and run for POTUS AND start rebuilding the Republican Party.

This will happen at the same time hell freezes over.

Wrong. It will happen sooner than later and after that the Democratic Party is finished for good (certainly the Sanders Clowns will be)
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« Reply #628 on: August 20, 2018, 06:44:22 PM »

Then finally a Mainstream Republican like Baker, Hogan, Sununu can step in and run for POTUS AND start rebuilding the Republican Party.

This will happen at the same time hell freezes over.

Wrong. It will happen sooner than later and after that the Democratic Party is finished for good (certainly the Sanders Clowns will be)
1. Baker, Hogan, and Sununu would need to be able to project power over the base by running in a presidential, or by winning a senate seat in their respective states. This will be almost impossible, except for Sununu, and even he is rather a more typical Republican than the moderates of Baker, Hogan, and Scott.

2. The Democratic Party will not be finished, they have too large of a base, and a growing one at that. Even if Sanders completely destroyed the party, they would still be able to rebuild and hold their 16-20 safe states.

3. If the Rs went moderate, then they would lose many far right voters, and more rural voters at that. And since the direction they would moderate would be on social issues, economics comes to be the battleground. This would give the Ds KY, WV, TN, MT, among other states, and start a new party system.
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« Reply #629 on: August 20, 2018, 06:46:22 PM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.
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« Reply #630 on: August 20, 2018, 06:55:22 PM »

Beto is the truly a cool senator



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Ted Cruz is such a squid!
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« Reply #631 on: August 20, 2018, 07:57:31 PM »

Beto is the truly a cool senator



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Ted Cruz is such a squid!
WORSE than a squid...Ted Cruz is a shoobie.
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« Reply #632 on: August 20, 2018, 09:17:44 PM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.

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The reason Trump won is because he had the most name recognition and most media attention. If Steve King ran instead of Trump , King would get destroyed.
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« Reply #633 on: August 21, 2018, 07:38:09 AM »

So no debate on August 31? Lame.

In all seriousness, Beto would have a tough time winning re-election in 2024, but probably not as tough as it will be for him to win in 2018.
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« Reply #634 on: August 21, 2018, 08:24:20 AM »

So no debate on August 31? Lame.

In all seriousness, Beto would have a tough time winning re-election in 2024, but probably not as tough as it will be for him to win in 2018.

If he were to win in both cycles, he would probably be entrenched by 2030.
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« Reply #635 on: August 21, 2018, 09:35:38 AM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.

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The reason Trump won is because he had the most name recognition and most media attention. If Steve King ran instead of Trump , King would get destroyed.
King is a lot more in tune with the base than Baker.
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« Reply #636 on: August 21, 2018, 10:27:07 AM »


The best way would be if Cruz loses in 2018 and Trump in 2020. Then finally a Mainstream Republican like Baker, Hogan, Sununu can step in and run for POTUS AND start rebuilding the Republican Party.
They aren't mainstream, they're anomalies.
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« Reply #637 on: August 21, 2018, 01:27:27 PM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.

Wrong


The reason Trump won is because he had the most name recognition and most media attention. If Steve King ran instead of Trump , King would get destroyed.

Jeb bush? Lol
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« Reply #638 on: August 21, 2018, 03:37:57 PM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.

Wrong


The reason Trump won is because he had the most name recognition and most media attention. If Steve King ran instead of Trump , King would get destroyed.

Jeb bush? Lol

Marco Rubio
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« Reply #639 on: August 21, 2018, 04:04:04 PM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.

Wrong


The reason Trump won is because he had the most name recognition and most media attention. If Steve King ran instead of Trump , King would get destroyed.

Jeb bush? Lol

Marco Rubio
lmao, rubio doesnt represent republicans, trump represents them. look at the primaries. I was saying bush had high name rec and still got destroyed
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« Reply #640 on: August 21, 2018, 05:20:53 PM »

Well, putting aside the likelihood of it actually happening, the idea of Baker and Hogan being "mainstream Republicans" is laughable. A "mainstream Republican" is Steve King.

Wrong


The reason Trump won is because he had the most name recognition and most media attention. If Steve King ran instead of Trump , King would get destroyed.

Jeb bush? Lol

Marco Rubio
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« Reply #641 on: August 21, 2018, 07:13:59 PM »

Beto is the truly a cool senator



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Ted Cruz is such a squid!
WORSE than a squid...Ted Cruz is a shoobie.


Totally radical!
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« Reply #642 on: August 22, 2018, 12:17:17 AM »

Beto has probably gone more left than what he was in the primary which is weird. He is running an unapologetic Left Wing Campaign !

Cruz paints him as ‘hard-left like Bernie Sanders’ but the challenger for the Senate seat is drawing crowds in conservative suburbs. About a hundred supporters chewed on brisket and choked on the idea that Texas might elect a man who, Cruz said, is “running hard, hard left like Bernie Sanders”. To isolated gasps, Cruz also floated the idea that O’Rourke is even further left than Sanders or the Massachusetts senator and rumoured 2020 contender Elizabeth Warren: “If you want a big government, gun-grabbing liberal, well, the Democrats are giving you one,” Cruz said. “You cannot find a race in the country with a starker difference”.

He supports immigration reform, universal healthcare, equal rights for LGBT people, tighter environmental regulations and “commonsense” gun laws. In short, the kind of policies that would be mainstream in some other states and many western countries, but which prompt rightwingers to depict him as a deranged socialist who wants to destroy the fabric of Texas. Despite pledging to eschew money from political action committees (Pacs) and rely on small individual donations, O’Rourke raised $10.4m in the second quarter of this year compared with Cruz’s $4.6m.

“It’s a no-brainer. I think Beto is going down. This is Ted Cruz country and it’s constitutional country and it’s Texas,” said Suzette Griffin, a retiree in an “I love Ted Cruz” T-shirt from 2016. “He’s for everything we’re against. He wants to give away the farm. He wants socialism and we don’t,” she said. “I think Ted’ll take him by 10 or 12 points.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/20/beto-orourke-texas-democrat-gains-ground-ted-cruz-senate

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« Reply #643 on: August 22, 2018, 12:23:12 AM »

To say that positions like "immigration reform, universal healthcare, equal rights for LGBT people, tighter environmental regulations and “commonsense” gun laws" are akin to those of Bernie Sanders or are anything indicative of "an unapologetic Left Wing Campaign !" is sad. I can't think of one mainstream Democrat that hasn't campaigned on this stuff.

Shadows, please stop.
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« Reply #644 on: August 22, 2018, 12:36:16 AM »

To say that positions like "immigration reform, universal healthcare, equal rights for LGBT people, tighter environmental regulations and “commonsense” gun laws" are akin to those of Bernie Sanders or are anything indicative of "an unapologetic Left Wing Campaign !" is sad. I can't think of one mainstream Democrat that hasn't campaigned on this stuff.

Shadows, please stop.

To be fair, he's just quoting the article he link (granted, his post should in quotes to avoid confusion).
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« Reply #645 on: August 22, 2018, 08:51:25 PM »

What are floors and ceilings for O'Rourke and Cruz?
I think Beto's range is like 43-51
Cruz could go from 45-55
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« Reply #646 on: August 23, 2018, 10:44:38 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2018, 10:58:22 PM by kyc0705 »

I know the whole tweet's bad, but I'm really irked by how much of a reach that Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon reference is. He just wanted to throw that in there, and it's so low-effort and pandering. So it fits him perfectly is what I'm saying:
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« Reply #647 on: August 25, 2018, 03:05:59 PM »

CBS is in trouble after violently trivializing Beto O'Rourke's remarks about the national anthem.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2018/08/25/cbs-news-posts-misleading-tweets-nfl-protests/1098495002/

Can Beto even get more than 15% of the white vote in Texas?

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« Reply #648 on: August 25, 2018, 03:14:25 PM »

CBS is in trouble after violently trivializing Beto O'Rourke's remarks about the national anthem.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2018/08/25/cbs-news-posts-misleading-tweets-nfl-protests/1098495002/

Can Beto even get more than 15% of the white vote in Texas?



He'll be lucky to get 5% tbh.
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« Reply #649 on: August 25, 2018, 05:01:32 PM »

CBS is in trouble after violently trivializing Beto O'Rourke's remarks about the national anthem.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2018/08/25/cbs-news-posts-misleading-tweets-nfl-protests/1098495002/

Can Beto even get more than 15% of the white vote in Texas?



He'll be lucky to get 5% tbh.

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