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Question: Which party will you vote for?
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Labour (Ken Livingstone)
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Conservative (Iain Duncan Smith)
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Liberal Democrat (Simon Hughes)
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New Labour (Tony Blair)
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New Deal (Robert Kilroy-Silk)
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« on: March 23, 2017, 10:43:27 AM »


February 2006 - Livingstone is determined to succeed

Prelude: A minority Labour government has survived 2005 but faces another election again, amidst domestic accomplishments and the adoption of the European Constitution but also with high unemployment, a recession and ongoing chaos in Northern Ireland. With the Conservatives still deep into the right, the Lib Dems moving left, New Labour bracing for survival and a new Eurosceptic populist party taking the country by surprise, who will win?

Labour Party: Back under Livingstone, Labour is running on the same manifesto as 2005, leaving aside the recent outcome of the referendums into Europe. Despite economic woes Livingstone continues to assert only Labour can get the recovery right through spending stimulus, and that a deep reform of the country's institutions is required for Britain to follow the road of progress.

Conservative Party: Despite being derided in the media as the "Quiet Man", IDS is on the campaign trail on a classic Thatcherite and Eurosceptic campaign, but with particular focus on a hardline stance on Northern Ireland, plans to fight poverty and stand for social justice through ambitious and compassionate welfare reform, and standing for "strong government" as the only real alternative for Labour.

Liberal Democrats: Rejecting an electoral alliance with New Labour, Hughes is on the warpath after moving the Lib Dems further into the left, challenging Labour as a saner, more competent alternative for a progressive left-wing government. While keeping most of the stances held by the party, Hughes has doubled down on environmentalism, the promotion of further investment in the economy to achieve recovery, a moderate stance on Northern Ireland and a particular focus on achieving social justice in Britain.

New Labour: Their survival threatened by their rejection by Simon Hughes, Blair has gathered resources to expand New Labour across the country, hoping to take the fight to the Lib Dems and Labour as the moderate center-left party. New Labour therefore continues to support a peace process in Northern Ireland, a humanitarian foreign policy, social liberal policies, investment in public services while taking a more fiscally responsible stance and education and crime reform.

New Deal: With the right-wing Eurosceptic parties collapsing, Robert Kilroy-Silk has gathered several members of the Eurosceptic left to form New Deal, a populist, economically leftist (thus anti-austerity), staunchly Eurosceptic party with a social conservative touch. Kilroy-Silk is running an insurgent populist campaign, arguing neither Labour nor the Tories can stand for the working class and rallying against the ongoing immigration surge into the UK.

Three days for this one, info on the Livingstone II Premiership can be found in the main thread.
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Note: Each PM has a dice roll on issues regarding stability and unity in their parties. Livingstone has twice rolled the worst possible number, leading us to have New Labour and New Deal.
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 10:55:10 AM »

There are no good options for someone who wants a sensible economic policy and isn't willing to embrace the madness of anti-Europeanism. New Labor.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 11:12:53 AM »

Livingstone is the only choice, folks!
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 11:30:07 AM »

There are no good options for someone who wants a sensible economic policy and isn't willing to embrace the madness of anti-Europeanism. New Labor.

To the extent that you didn't even vote for any of the listed options, it seems. Wink

Labour for me, obviously.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2017, 11:56:46 AM »

Conservative. IDS!
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 01:21:12 PM »

Voted New Deal to shake it up. I've voted Tory each time so far.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2017, 01:25:02 PM »
« Edited: March 23, 2017, 01:29:12 PM by Çråbçæk »

CAN'T CRY OVER SPILT MILK WITH THE KILSILK
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2017, 01:57:44 PM »

New Labor - I can't support anti-SSM LD.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2017, 03:19:53 PM »
« Edited: March 23, 2017, 03:27:37 PM by MAINEiac4434 »

LibDem reluctantly.

EDIT: current results have the Conservatives returning one member.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2017, 04:36:45 PM »

LibDem reluctantly.

EDIT: current results have the Conservatives returning one member.
Oh wow, canada 1993 all over again
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2017, 04:38:31 PM »

LibDem reluctantly.

EDIT: current results have the Conservatives returning one member.

How much would that depend on the number of candidates New Labor and New Deal were running? It appears that neither is running a full slate.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2017, 04:38:56 PM »

New Deal
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2017, 04:41:09 PM »

New Labour is running across most of the country due to have large financial resources, New Deal is only running in about a third to a half of the seats since it's a new movement.

I was bracing for a possible nightmare in having to determine the share of the seats, but I'm not sure I can even find a plausible explanation of Labour winning almost 50% of the vote out of nowhere.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2017, 04:41:58 PM »

Labour
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2017, 04:47:16 PM »

New Labour is running across most of the country due to have large financial resources, New Deal is only running in about a third to a half of the seats since it's a new movement.

I was bracing for a possible nightmare in having to determine the share of the seats, but I'm not sure I can even find a plausible explanation of Labour winning almost 50% of the vote out of nowhere.
We are looking at Canada 1993 in terms of seats possibly, with the Liberals being Labour and the New Deal party being Reform except they do worse in seat count vis a vis the Tories.
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2017, 05:42:16 PM »

Upon further reflection, I came up with a solution for the potential meltdown of some parties, should have thought of it before. I just hope we don't end up with Labour in 60% and winning almost every seat, lol
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2017, 05:45:47 PM »

Upon further reflection, I came up with a solution for the potential meltdown of some parties, should have thought of it before. I just hope we don't end up with Labour in 60% and winning almost every seat, lol
Maybe Livingstone's memoirs in the future, one of them will be called "The Life of Mr. Livingstone or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love FPTP". Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2017, 05:50:02 PM »

I mean UKIP got 13% and 1 MP in 2015, and the SNP got 4.7 and 56 MPs (if you'd said this to someone in 2010 they would have called it impossible) so there's enough license to play around with the seats.

Funnily enough Red Ken is actually facing Labour's internal star court, or whatever it's called about his Hitler rants, and is facing being expelled from the party. Although if New Labour wasn't running I'd still find myself voting for Ken in this scenario because IDS is easily one of the worst Tories in parliament, and Hughes is a hypocritical scumbag
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2017, 05:54:07 PM »

LibDem reluctantly.

EDIT: current results have the Conservatives returning one member.

How much would that depend on the number of candidates New Labor and New Deal were running? It appears that neither is running a full slate.
I put it in Electoral Calculus, which assumes full slates I think.
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2017, 06:21:27 PM »

LibDem reluctantly.

EDIT: current results have the Conservatives returning one member.

How much would that depend on the number of candidates New Labor and New Deal were running? It appears that neither is running a full slate.
I put it in Electoral Calculus, which assumes full slates I think.

Indeed. I'll be using the 2010 Election because it allows me to model UKIP to partly match New Deal, and I'll be removing a portion of its vote share to assign equally to all parties. I also discount a particular percentage to account for the "Others" vote for each party, so all of the five main parties lose 1% to account for an "Others" vote of 5% for this particular election.

But I'll be playing with some of the seats, so simple EC results are referential only.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2017, 06:46:11 PM »

Labour!.
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2017, 07:51:08 PM »

Voted New Deal to shake it up. I've voted Tory each time so far.
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2017, 08:41:32 PM »

ahaha so Tories are bleeding purely euroskeptic votes to New Deal? this is very humorous, considering who the current leader of the Tories is.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2017, 12:02:21 AM »

I still believe in the Lib Dems!
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2017, 01:50:05 AM »

Boo why is Kilroy not in second anymore.
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