Neil Gorsuch Confirmation Process Discussion (confirmed 54-45)

[Associate Justice PiT]

What a great day for the unborn! 

Let's hope there will be another retirement/vacancy or two, so we can make more forward progress.

there are rumors that Kennedy could retire in the fall, and RBG has been in poor health for years

     Replacing RBG would be a big deal in terms of the balance of power.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

54-45.


He's confirmed.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

What a great day for the unborn!  

Let's hope there will be another retirement/vacancy or two, so we can make more forward progress.

there are rumors that Kennedy could retire in the fall, and RBG has been in poor health for years

Kennedy needs to go ASAP. He is literally the worst - or one of the worst - types to be on the court. This is the least he could do.

[Devout Centrist]

Damn I was only off by one in my TL

[Pandaguineapig]

'A great day for the unborn'

Meanwhile, Gorsuch sides against a living truck driver who almost froze to death at his job

yes, screw the law "muh feels" are what should guide sc justices

[100% pro-life no matter what]

When does Gorsuch get inaugurated to the Court?

[ApatheticAustrian]

'A great day for the unborn'

Meanwhile, Gorsuch sides against a living truck driver who almost froze to death at his job

yes, screw the law "muh feels" are what should guide sc justices

if you are REALLY good you can combine both, as was practiced by scalia, who was a genius and still able to always defend his social-conservative positions.

[Beet]

A disastrous day for women's rights. Fetuses are not people, they are clumps of cells. Not to mention Gorsuch is a plutocrat who will join a Court of plutocrats.

[Mr. Reactionary]

What a great day for the unborn!  

Let's hope there will be another retirement/vacancy or two, so we can make more forward progress.

there are rumors that Kennedy could retire in the fall, and RBG has been in poor health for years

Kennedy needs to go ASAP. He is literally the worst - or one of the worst - types to be on the court. This is the least he could do.

Yeah. Kennedy and Breyer are the only scotus justices I dislike too.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

'A great day for the unborn'

Meanwhile, Gorsuch sides against a living truck driver who almost froze to death at his job

yes, screw the law "muh feels" are what should guide sc justices

The original position does not reflect reality and thus is not a good judicial philosophy.

[DavidB.]

A disastrous day for women's rights. Fetuses are not people, they are clumps of cells.

*tips fedora*

[Lincoln Republican]

HALLELUJAH!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

54-45.


He's confirmed.

Who was gone? Isakson?

Yes it was Isakson.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

wonder if blocking Estrada because of his race was worth it for chucky?

With all due respect, if you think nuking the judicial filibuster had anything to do with Estrada, you're crazy.

What a great day for the unborn!  

Let's hope there will be another retirement/vacancy or two, so we can make more forward progress.

It has always amused me how so many Republicans think their party leadership actually wants to see abortion banned.  Weakening decisions like Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey?  Sure.  However, they're just using you guys [pro-lifers].  They'd never actually ban abortion because of the huge political backlash that would occur across the country (especially in wealthy suburbs and exurbs and yes, that includes the arch-conservative ones).  Even without Kennedy or without Ginsberg, if there was a real chance of the Supreme Court doing a complete 180 on abortion, Roberts would switch.  This fight was decided a long time ago.  

This second part isn't so much directed at you as some other blue-avatars, but it's been really gross to see how some of the folks here (you know who you are) are virtually cheering for Ginsberg to die.  I know some Democrats were dancing on Scalia's grave and that was pretty bad too, but can we try not to hope for people's deaths just because we disagree with them?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This second part isn't so much directed at you as some other blue-avatars, but it's been really gross to see how some of the folks here (you know who you are) are virtually cheering for Ginsberg to die.  I know some Democrats were dancing on Scalia's grave and that was pretty bad too, but can we try not to hope for people's deaths just because we disagree with them?

You are right on this. It is a disturbing situation that we have been witnessing. I recall conservatives doing it with Justice Stevens as well, ten years ago. It was wrong then, it was wrong last year and it is wrong now.

[Associate Justice PiT]

This second part isn't so much directed at you as some other blue-avatars, but it's been really gross to see how some of the folks here (you know who you are) are virtually cheering for Ginsberg to die.  I know some Democrats were dancing on Scalia's grave and that was pretty bad too, but can we try not to hope for people's deaths just because we disagree with them?

You are right on this. It is a disturbing situation that we have been witnessing. I recall conservatives doing it with Justice Stevens as well, ten years ago. It was wrong then, it was wrong last year and it is wrong now.

     It is a natural result of shifts in political power in the judiciary (itself a terrifying phrase) hinging on people dying, but I do agree that we should aim to be better than this.

[Beet]

This second part isn't so much directed at you as some other blue-avatars, but it's been really gross to see how some of the folks here (you know who you are) are virtually cheering for Ginsberg to die.  I know some Democrats were dancing on Scalia's grave and that was pretty bad too, but can we try not to hope for people's deaths just because we disagree with them?

You are right on this. It is a disturbing situation that we have been witnessing. I recall conservatives doing it with Justice Stevens as well, ten years ago. It was wrong then, it was wrong last year and it is wrong now.

     It is a natural result of shifts in political power in the judiciary (itself a terrifying phrase) hinging on people dying, but I do agree that we should aim to be better than this.

If the Courts want to be treated differently, they should stop being so political. There is rightful anxiety over so much power in the hands of so unelected few.

[RI]

'A great day for the unborn'

Meanwhile, Gorsuch sides against a living truck driver who almost froze to death at his job

yes, screw the law "muh feels" are what should guide sc justices

You should read Gorsuch's book on physician-assisted suicide...the whole rationale for why assisted suicide shouldn't be legalized is 'muh feels' and 'jesus'

As opposed to the rationale for assisted suicide which is also 'muh feels'...

[Devout Centrist]

Eh, this doesn't change the makeup of the court at all. Kennedy will still strike down anti-abortion legislation. He's gotten increasingly liberal over time.

As for healthcare, Vidkun Roberts will shore up that front.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

If the Courts want to be treated differently, they should stop being so political.

Justice Gorsuch agrees.

[ApatheticAustrian]

If the Courts want to be treated differently, they should stop being so political.

Justice Gorsuch agrees.

if het acts-robertish he has got my approval

[BuckeyeNut]

A date which will live in infamy.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

wonder if blocking Estrada because of his race was worth it for chucky?

With all due respect, if you think nuking the judicial filibuster had anything to do with Estrada, you're crazy.

What a great day for the unborn!  

Let's hope there will be another retirement/vacancy or two, so we can make more forward progress.

It has always amused me how so many Republicans think their party leadership actually wants to see abortion banned.  Weakening decisions like Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey?  Sure.  However, they're just using you guys [pro-lifers].  They'd never actually ban abortion because of the huge political backlash that would occur across the country (especially in wealthy suburbs and exurbs and yes, that includes the arch-conservative ones).  Even without Kennedy or without Ginsberg, if there was a real chance of the Supreme Court doing a complete 180 on abortion, Roberts would switch.  This fight was decided a long time ago.  

You're right that Roberts (and Gorsuch) can't be fully trusted to actually overturn Roe, but to pretend the republican party doesn't want to ban abortion is silly. Remember the attempts to pass Personhood? Remember that OH would have a heartbeat ban, if it didn't have to be vetoed for the sake of strategy? (no sense starting a roe challenge until there's a chance to win at SCOTUS) I know you guys tell yourself lies about republicans so you don't have to think about your abortion not being there for you, but that doesn't change the fact that republicans want to make abortion illegal.

[ApatheticAustrian]

republicans want to make abortions disappear like smoking.

no total ban but more and more and more AND MOOOORE inconvenient, messy, difficult and embarassing.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

wonder if blocking Estrada because of his race was worth it for chucky?

With all due respect, if you think nuking the judicial filibuster had anything to do with Estrada, you're crazy.

What a great day for the unborn!  

Let's hope there will be another retirement/vacancy or two, so we can make more forward progress.

It has always amused me how so many Republicans think their party leadership actually wants to see abortion banned.  Weakening decisions like Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey?  Sure.  However, they're just using you guys [pro-lifers].  They'd never actually ban abortion because of the huge political backlash that would occur across the country (especially in wealthy suburbs and exurbs and yes, that includes the arch-conservative ones).  Even without Kennedy or without Ginsberg, if there was a real chance of the Supreme Court doing a complete 180 on abortion, Roberts would switch.  This fight was decided a long time ago.  

You're right that Roberts (and Gorsuch) can't be fully trusted to actually overturn Roe, but to pretend the republican party doesn't want to ban abortion is silly. Remember the attempts to pass Personhood? Remember that OH would have a heartbeat ban, if it didn't have to be vetoed for the sake of strategy? (no sense starting a roe challenge until there's a chance to win at SCOTUS) I know you guys tell yourself lies about republicans so you don't have to think about your abortion not being there for you, but that doesn't change the fact that republicans want to make abortion illegal.

Ohio's proposed heartbeat ban was vetoed though  I think the Republican leadership wants to make it extremely difficult to get an abortion and many rank-and-file Republicans probably want it banned, but I don't think the Republican party leadership really wants it to actually be illegal so much as very difficult to get.  On a somewhat related note, the bolded part of your post shows that you completely misunderstood what I was saying.  ApatheticAustrian has the right idea about what they [the party leadership] want:

*snip*

no total ban but more and more and more AND MOOOORE inconvenient, messy, difficult and embarassing.