ARC Economic Status of Appalachian Counties (2005)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Status based on Three-Year Average Unemployment Rate, Per Capita Market Income, Poverty Rate

Note that "attainment" means "the same or better than the US Average".

[MODU]

Looks about right, though I would have thought WVA was a bit better off than that.

[True Democrat]

I don't Allegheney County should even be considered Appalachia though.

[AuH2O]

Nice to see north Georgia doing well. Beautiful area, great barbeque.

[Q]

Nice to see north Georgia doing well. Beautiful area, great barbeque.

Very true .  Despite being a vegetarian, I appreciate the fine art of barbeque, and no one does it better than the folks of north GA.

On another note, why are so many of these counties included in "Appalachia"?  I think some of them are just in the study in order to increase the number of "attainment" counties.

Gwinnett County (southernmost "attainment" county in GA) is almost urbanized, and it actually has the greatest number of registered motor vehicles of any county in the state of Georgia.

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Where'd they come up with that region? Ususally people don't put the Southern Tier of NY state together with those other areas.

Are the Appalachians in Chautaqua, Tompkins, or Cortland counties? I don't think so.

[MODU]

Where'd they come up with that region? Ususally people don't put the Southern Tier of NY state together with those other areas.

Are the Appalachians in Chautaqua, Tompkins, or Cortland counties? I don't think so.

Probably foothill counties.

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Status based on Three-Year Average Unemployment Rate, Per Capita Market Income, Poverty Rate

Note that "attainment" means "the same or better than the US Average".

Things are certainly improving for Appalachia overall.

[minionofmidas]

Where'd they come up with that region? Ususally people don't put the Southern Tier of NY state together with those other areas.

Are the Appalachians in Chautaqua, Tompkins, or Cortland counties? I don't think so.

It's the official definition, has been for a while. The most weird thing is not what it includes (part of Mississippi, parts of New York) but what it excludes - the whole Shenandoah area is not considered part of Appalachia.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's the area covered by the ARC. Personally I think they need to redraw it; a couple of counties in North Georgia which *were* in it for good reason originally really shouldn't be in it anymore, while it would probably be a good idea to extend the boundaries northwards into the parts of Appalachian New England that have been struggling lately.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's the official definition, has been for a while. The most weird thing is not what it includes (part of Mississippi, parts of New York)

The inclusion of parts of upstate NY isn't that weird IMO. Some of the MS counties don't really belong geographically but they badly need the assitance they get from the ARC.

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True. Isn't that because the congressman for the area at the time opposed the ARC for some reason?

[MHS2002]

The Northern parts of the Shenandoah (Frederick County on down to Shenandoah County, maybe Rockingham) might not be considered "Appalachian" by today's standards but the Southern part of the Valley definitely belongs in the survey.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Are the Appalachians in Chautaqua, Tompkins, or Cortland counties? I don't think so.

Appalachians go from Alabama up to Newfoundland. And Chautauqua is in for the same sort of reasons why Erie or Macon are in.

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Are the Appalachians in Chautaqua, Tompkins, or Cortland counties? I don't think so.

Appalachians go from Alabama up to Newfoundland. And Chautauqua is in for the same sort of reasons why Erie or Macon are in.

They aren't really Appalachian mountains in NY state. NY has the Catskills in the central south-east, the Adirondacks in the north, flatlands near the Great Lakes, and the Finger lakes carved by the glaciers in the south central part.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

They aren't really Appalachian mountains in NY state. NY has the Catskills in the central south-east, the Adirondacks in the north, flatlands near the Great Lakes, and the Finger lakes carved by the glaciers in the south central part.

The Catskills are part of the Appalachian chain... as is most of upstate NY actually. Main exception is the Adirondacks which are geologically part of the Canadian Shield.

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Are the Appalachians in Chautaqua, Tompkins, or Cortland counties? I don't think so.

Appalachians go from Alabama up to Newfoundland. And Chautauqua is in for the same sort of reasons why Erie or Macon are in.

Well, might as well put Newfoundland in too, huh?
The thing is that Tompkins county in particular is not politically like an Appalachians county. Way too socially liberal.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Well, might as well put Newfoundland in too, huh?

No, because this is the official ARC definition of Appalachia... and US legislation doesn't cover Canada last time I checked.

[KEmperor]

US legislation doesn't cover Canada last time I checked.

Some of our members might disagree:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=25712.0