Fear of diversity, not economic anxiety, caused Obama voters to switch to Trump
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2017, 10:36:07 AM »

I could say something snarky about how corporate lawyers in Manhattan exemplify everything that is wrong with America/the world's 21st century economic and political "leaders", but why stoop to their level?

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« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2017, 12:30:45 AM »
« Edited: March 16, 2017, 12:32:41 AM by TheDeadFlagBlues »



Shut up, Lief.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2017, 01:45:01 AM »
« Edited: March 17, 2017, 11:47:02 AM by modern maverick »

It's never been clear to me how exactly the people who poo-poo the idea of emphasizing bread-and-butter issues to win back some of these voters recommend the Democrats proceed instead. Lie to them? Keep scolding and shaming them but EXTRA HARD this time? Double down on trying to Make Demographics Destiny Again? The entire point of a pivot to economic issues is to introduce new political incentives for voters who are currently motivated by uglier things. I'm appalled that this has to be spelled out over and over again.
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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2017, 04:03:38 PM »

It's never been clear to me how exactly the people who poo-poo the idea of emphasizing bread-and-butter issues to win back some of these voters recommend the Democrats proceed instead. Lie to them? Keep scolding and shaming them but EXTRA HARD this time? Double down on trying to Make Demographics Destiny Again? The entire point of a pivot to economic issues is to introduce new political incentives for voters who are currently motivated by uglier things. I'm appalled that this has to be spelled out over and over again.

Because its much easier to divide and conquer through social issues/identity politics bull.
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« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2017, 04:39:57 PM »

It's never been clear to me how exactly the people who poo-poo the idea of emphasizing bread-and-butter issues to win back some of these voters recommend the Democrats proceed instead. Lie to them? Keep scolding and shaming them but EXTRA HARD this time? Double down on trying to Make Demographics Destiny Again? The entire point of a pivot to economic issues is to introduce new political incentives for voters who are currently motivated by uglier things. I'm appalled that this has to be spelled out over and over again.

Because its much easier to divide and conquer through social issues/identity politics bull.

     I'm not sure that the people who are really all in on this old tack realize how politically toxic it is. Even if they do, they can just write it off as the moral turpitude of other people.
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« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2017, 08:15:12 PM »

It's never been clear to me how exactly the people who poo-poo the idea of emphasizing bread-and-butter issues to win back some of these voters recommend the Democrats proceed instead. Lie to them? Keep scolding and shaming them but EXTRA HARD this time? Double down on trying to Make Demographics Destiny Again? The entire point of a pivot to economic issues is to introduce new political incentives for voters who are currently motivated by uglier things. I'm appalled that this has to be spelled out over and over again.

What about people who just want to talk about what happened in the election, without getting caught up in whether talking about it in a certain way is politically advantageous or not?  If people want to argue on this forum about the extent to which racism, fear of diversity or whatever you want to call it, drove people's votes, without turning it into some kind of strategy session about how the Dems should fix it, what's the problem?  Nothing in Lief's post was prescriptive about how the Dems should address their problem here.
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