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« on: March 10, 2017, 08:41:41 PM »

http://komonews.com/news/local/temple-de-hirsch-sinai-vandalized-with-anti-semtic-graffiti

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Somehow, this is still going on in 2017. Before anyone claims that this is a hoax or fake, or perpetrated by "liberals who want to make Trump look bad", can we all just agree that this is terrible, and has no place in our society, regardless of who the perpetrators are?
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2017, 09:06:08 PM »

Wow look how great America is being made (again). Glad Trump decided to run (and get elected with) a campaign of bigotry or America would really be suffering bigly now. We are just so lucky!
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2017, 11:34:12 PM »

This is just the tip of a deplorable iceberg:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/us/jewish-centers-bomb-threats-explainer/
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 12:00:47 AM »

And yet us Muslims are the biggest threat to the U.S right now. When study after study have shown that RIGHT-WING groups in the U.S are actually the biggest threat.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 12:03:58 AM »

This is just the tip of a deplorable iceberg:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/us/jewish-centers-bomb-threats-explainer/
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It would be great to see a comparison map to years past.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 12:12:13 AM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 06:43:09 AM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 09:22:23 AM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 09:28:12 AM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?

In the Trump cult, everything is fake news if it goes against the Dear Leader and/or his policies. Hate was a byproduct of his campaign, so not too surprising seeing a blue avatar trying to walk it down.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2017, 12:17:34 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
Also who is behind it?
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 01:25:42 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
Also who is behind it?

The bigger picture is that the Republican Party is officially anti-Semitic, and is of the the belief that those lying Joos are fabricating these attacks in order to discredit their Fuhrer.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 02:02:36 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
Also who is behind it?

The bigger picture is that the Republican Party is officially anti-Semitic, and is of the the belief that those lying Joos are fabricating these attacks in order to discredit their Fuhrer.

Let them answer the inconsistencies on their own.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 02:11:37 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
Also who is behind it?

The bigger picture is that the Republican Party is officially anti-Semitic, and is of the the belief that those lying Joos are fabricating these attacks in order to discredit their Fuhrer.

Oh please, I've seen plenty of anti-semitism from the left over the years. It's gotten worse ever since you guys started courting muslims because of your knee-jerk reaction to always be anti-western, like a bunch of pathetic whiny teenagers who hates their parents and wants to show them.

Plus the only person who has been arrested for bomb threats so far is a black liberal who used to be a reporter for the intercept.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/nyregion/jewish-centers-bomb-threats-arrest.html
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 02:23:33 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
Also who is behind it?

The bigger picture is that the Republican Party is officially anti-Semitic, and is of the the belief that those lying Joos are fabricating these attacks in order to discredit their Fuhrer.

Oh please, I've seen plenty of anti-semitism from the left over the years. It's gotten worse ever since you guys started courting muslims because of your knee-jerk reaction to always be anti-western, like a bunch of pathetic whiny teenagers who hates their parents and wants to show them.

Plus the only person who has been arrested for bomb threats so far is a black liberal who used to be a reporter for the intercept.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/nyregion/jewish-centers-bomb-threats-arrest.html

The people on this board who are alleging that this and other attacks on synagogues are hoaxes are most definitely Republicans.  And the person arrested was for phony bomb threats, NOT for any of the recent actual attacks on synagogues and Jewish cemeteries.

YOU are TELLING ME about leftist anti-Semitism?  I was a freshman at Johns Hopkins University in the fall of 1981 when there was a PLO riot on campus.  They had been invited there by the "Progressive Student Union".  The riot made local Baltimore news; I don't know if it made any national news.  So I've been aware of leftist (as in LEFT of the Democratic Party; the Campus Democrats were most definitely opposed to the PLO being on campus) anti-Semitism since what I am guessing is years before you were even born.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 02:59:28 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
I would say that it is more common than actual hate crime.

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Well the same kind of lying attention seekers who might invent lies about suffering from illness can also do this for claims of being a victim of crime. People like this will tend to pick the type of crime in their society where claims of being a victim will attract the maximum sympathy or even hysteria while simultaneously  attracting the minimum scrutiny for the veracity of the claims. In 17th century England and America that was witchcraft. In the 21st century England and America that's hate crimes.

Just as in the 17th century the authorities and propagandists can turn a blind eye to what they realise is hysterical fabrication when it suits their purposes to do so.
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2017, 03:06:51 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
I would say that it is more common than actual hate crime.

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Well the same kind of lying attention seekers who might invent lies about suffering from illness can also do this for claims of being a victim of crime. People like this will tend to pick the type of crime in their society where claims of being a victim will attract the maximum sympathy or even hysteria while simultaneously  attracting the minimum scrutiny for the veracity of the claims. In 17th century England and America that was witchcraft. In the 21st century England and America that's hate crimes.

Just as in the 17th century the authorities and propagandists can turn a blind eye to what they realise is hysterical fabrication when it suits their purposes to do so.

Have you ever heard of Occam's razor?
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2017, 03:16:46 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
I would say that it is more common than actual hate crime.

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Well the same kind of lying attention seekers who might invent lies about suffering from illness can also do this for claims of being a victim of crime. People like this will tend to pick the type of crime in their society where claims of being a victim will attract the maximum sympathy or even hysteria while simultaneously  attracting the minimum scrutiny for the veracity of the claims. In 17th century England and America that was witchcraft. In the 21st century England and America that's hate crimes.

Just as in the 17th century the authorities and propagandists can turn a blind eye to what they realise is hysterical fabrication when it suits their purposes to do so.

Have you ever heard of Occam's razor?
What does Occam's razor saying about case after case after case after case of reported hate crimes being reported in the news and then in virtually every case it turns out to either have been completely invented or it was carried out by the 'victim' on themselves. What's occam's razor's explanation for that?
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2017, 04:04:10 PM »

I agree such probable hoaxes are terrible. As usual, I'm sticking with my rule that this is a hoax until proven otherwise.

What do you mean by hoax? Like a false flag?
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That is exactly what is meant. Hoax hate crime like this is depressingly common.

Would you say its more or less common than hate crime?
I would say that it is more common than actual hate crime.

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Well the same kind of lying attention seekers who might invent lies about suffering from illness can also do this for claims of being a victim of crime. People like this will tend to pick the type of crime in their society where claims of being a victim will attract the maximum sympathy or even hysteria while simultaneously  attracting the minimum scrutiny for the veracity of the claims. In 17th century England and America that was witchcraft. In the 21st century England and America that's hate crimes.

Just as in the 17th century the authorities and propagandists can turn a blind eye to what they realise is hysterical fabrication when it suits their purposes to do so.

Have you ever heard of Occam's razor?
What does Occam's razor saying about case after case after case after case of reported hate crimes being reported in the news and then in virtually every case it turns out to either have been completely invented or it was carried out by the 'victim' on themselves. What's occam's razor's explanation for that?

Why did they vandalise the synagogue?

If it was a genuine hate crime - because they hate Jewish people

If it was a hoax - no, it was a false flag, because someone is trying to pin it on the far right, or wants to be a victim, or this, or that.

Generally, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion that virtually every hate crims is a hoax? I suppose you think Thomas Mair was actually a pro-EU plant was he?
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2017, 09:14:20 PM »

Why did they vandalise the synagogue?

If it was a genuine hate crime - because they hate Jewish people

If it was a hoax - no, it was a false flag, because someone is trying to pin it on the far right, or wants to be a victim, or this, or that.

Generally, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion that virtually every hate crims is a hoax? I suppose you think Thomas Mair was actually a pro-EU plant was he?
Of course. Hoax after hoax after hoax after hoax gets found out about hate crimes reported in the media. So new reports have to be accepted as genuine. You're right, that is the simplest's explanation.
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2017, 01:18:37 AM »

I didn't make this association until just now, but a couple of my friends actually had their bar and bat mitzvahs at this synagogue. I didn't realize it was the same one.
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2017, 01:43:21 AM »

DavidB and his lik are in great company.
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2017, 06:12:46 AM »

Why did they vandalise the synagogue?

If it was a genuine hate crime - because they hate Jewish people

If it was a hoax - no, it was a false flag, because someone is trying to pin it on the far right, or wants to be a victim, or this, or that.

Generally, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion that virtually every hate crims is a hoax? I suppose you think Thomas Mair was actually a pro-EU plant was he?
Of course. Hoax after hoax after hoax after hoax gets found out about hate crimes reported in the media. So new reports have to be accepted as genuine. You're right, that is the simplest's explanation.

Do you think neo-Nazi and far right groups are simply not comitting anti-Semitic acts then?
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2017, 06:32:25 AM »

Why did they vandalise the synagogue?

If it was a genuine hate crime - because they hate Jewish people

If it was a hoax - no, it was a false flag, because someone is trying to pin it on the far right, or wants to be a victim, or this, or that.

Generally, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion that virtually every hate crims is a hoax? I suppose you think Thomas Mair was actually a pro-EU plant was he?
Of course. Hoax after hoax after hoax after hoax gets found out about hate crimes reported in the media. So new reports have to be accepted as genuine. You're right, that is the simplest's explanation.

Do you think neo-Nazi and far right groups are simply not comitting anti-Semitic acts then?
Its possible. More likely though that these are hoaxes
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2017, 08:06:24 AM »

Why did they vandalise the synagogue?

If it was a genuine hate crime - because they hate Jewish people

If it was a hoax - no, it was a false flag, because someone is trying to pin it on the far right, or wants to be a victim, or this, or that.

Generally, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion that virtually every hate crims is a hoax? I suppose you think Thomas Mair was actually a pro-EU plant was he?
Of course. Hoax after hoax after hoax after hoax gets found out about hate crimes reported in the media. So new reports have to be accepted as genuine. You're right, that is the simplest's explanation.

Do you think neo-Nazi and far right groups are simply not comitting anti-Semitic acts then?
Its possible. More likely though that these are hoaxes

I dont care whose doing it as long as it stops. The JCC in my hometown where I went as a child got a bomb threat. Im scared that one of these bomb threats turns out to be genuine.
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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2017, 09:06:22 AM »

Why did they vandalise the synagogue?

If it was a genuine hate crime - because they hate Jewish people

If it was a hoax - no, it was a false flag, because someone is trying to pin it on the far right, or wants to be a victim, or this, or that.

Generally, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion that virtually every hate crims is a hoax? I suppose you think Thomas Mair was actually a pro-EU plant was he?
Of course. Hoax after hoax after hoax after hoax gets found out about hate crimes reported in the media. So new reports have to be accepted as genuine. You're right, that is the simplest's explanation.

Do you think neo-Nazi and far right groups are simply not comitting anti-Semitic acts then?
Its possible. More likely though that these are hoaxes

I dont care whose doing it as long as it stops. The JCC in my hometown where I went as a child got a bomb threat. Im scared that one of these bomb threats turns out to be genuine.
The trouble is that that that communist guy who was arrested for making 12 of the phone call threats was probably not the only copycat. The amount of fear and panic these calls are generating, when compared with the ease of committing this type of crime is going to be quite attractive to a certain type of crazy person. The sheer number of these threats makes me suspect we're looking at multiple independent copycats.
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