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« Reply #225 on: April 23, 2018, 09:38:32 AM »

morning update

https://howeypolitics.com/Content/Default/Lead-Story/Article/Atomic-Braun-loans-5M-Rokita-cash-tape-Pence-bankruptcies/-3/346/17427

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Radio interview with Messer this morning: https://www.wowo.com/congressman-messer-speaks-ahead-of-tonights-senate-debate/
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« Reply #226 on: April 26, 2018, 04:40:15 PM »

Rokita with his own youthful indiscretion.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/25/indiana-senate-race-2018-rokita-arrest-messer-dui/546480002/
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« Reply #227 on: April 26, 2018, 08:28:37 PM »

Todd Rokita released a children's book attacking Messer.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/behind-closed-doors/2018/04/25/indiana-senate-race-2018-rokita-childrens-book-messer-braun/546499002/
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« Reply #228 on: April 26, 2018, 09:00:06 PM »


This is the pettiest, most immature primary race I’ve ever seen
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« Reply #229 on: April 26, 2018, 09:08:35 PM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?
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« Reply #230 on: April 26, 2018, 09:10:24 PM »


If only Mike Braun weren't running...
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« Reply #231 on: April 26, 2018, 09:53:19 PM »

Why aren't they attacking Mike Braun? Isn't he leading? Is this just an excuse for Messer and Rokita to hash out their political vendettas against each other?
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« Reply #232 on: April 26, 2018, 10:33:01 PM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle
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« Reply #233 on: April 26, 2018, 11:53:01 PM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle
Love the its always sunny music
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« Reply #234 on: April 27, 2018, 12:00:26 AM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle

I'm genuinely pretty worried about Braun winning the primary.
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« Reply #235 on: April 27, 2018, 12:08:29 AM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle

I'm genuinely pretty worried about Braun winning the primary.

Yea Messer and Rokita both carry quite a bit of baggage with them while Braun is kind of a clean slate and basically as close as you can get to a Generic R.
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« Reply #236 on: April 27, 2018, 12:27:45 AM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle

I'm genuinely pretty worried about Braun winning the primary.

Yea Messer and Rokita both carry quite a bit of baggage with them while Braun is kind of a clean slate and basically as close as you can get to a Generic R.
Yeah while Donnelly has the right set of beliefs Bruan is an exceptionally good candidate with no baggage Donelly can be attacked he is treading water but the IN GOP could rip him apart if the DNC doesn't take the threat seriously
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« Reply #237 on: April 27, 2018, 12:29:43 AM »

Yeah I think Braun would beat Donnelly by around 2, whereas Donnelly beats Messer by 3 and Rotika by 6
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« Reply #238 on: April 27, 2018, 12:31:55 AM »

Yeah I think Braun would beat Donnelly by around 2, whereas Donnelly beats Messer by 3 and Rotika by 6
This. Completely agree. Braun is by far the strongest candidate.
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« Reply #239 on: April 27, 2018, 08:44:28 AM »
« Edited: April 27, 2018, 08:48:06 AM by StateBoiler »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle

I'm genuinely pretty worried about Braun winning the primary.

Yea Messer and Rokita both carry quite a bit of baggage with them while Braun is kind of a clean slate and basically as close as you can get to a Generic R.

I think Messer is more "generic R" than the other two. Rokita is clearly portraying himself as the spitting image of Trump, and Braun is "outsider businessman". Although there's very little policy differences between the 3 when it comes to the debates.

Local take:

https://howeypolitics.com/Content/Default/Lead-Story/Article/Horse-Race-An-utterly-fluid-Republican-U-S-Senate-finish/-3/346/17465

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« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2018, 08:47:23 AM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle

I'm genuinely pretty worried about Braun winning the primary.

Yea Messer and Rokita both carry quite a bit of baggage with them while Braun is kind of a clean slate and basically as close as you can get to a Generic R.

I think Messer is far more "generic R" than the other two. Rokita is clearly portraying himself as the spitting image of Trump, and Braun is "outsider businessman". Although there's very little policy differences between the 3 when it comes to the debates.

I agree with this.
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« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2018, 08:57:52 AM »

Not expecting much of anything to happen in the final April 30th debate based on the one I attended this past Monday. But my guess at this point is Braun wins this due to being considered the most electable. The reason Donnelly is in this seat to begin with is Republicans nominated someone that turned out to be unelectable. And since it's a competitive 3-way race, he only needs 40% to win most likely. The thing that gives Howey pause is there's hardly been any polling by independent orgs and it's believed there are a ton of undecideds.
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« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2018, 09:01:11 AM »

Yeah I think Braun would beat Donnelly by around 2, whereas Donnelly beats Messer by 3 and Rotika by 6

I think Braun is the strongest, but I don't think he's as strong as Atlas is hyping him up to be against Donnelly. I don't think he'd beat Donnelly at the moment.

Braun's strongest asset policy-wise in my opinion is how he describes how he handled healthcare and its costs for his company's employees negotiating with the insurers. It shows he gets how screwed up healthcare is and even if you're anti-Obamacare, you still know it needs to be fixed.
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« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2018, 09:07:57 AM »

Here's a more cynical take on the race from a Republican:

https://howeypolitics.com/Content/Columns/Columns/Article/Mark-Souder-A-choice-between-2-cardboard-cutouts-and-a-Democrat/10/20/17463

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« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2018, 09:10:53 AM »

Not expecting much of anything to happen in the final April 30th debate based on the one I attended this past Monday. But my guess at this point is Braun wins this due to being considered the most electable. The reason Donnelly is in this seat to begin with is Republicans nominated someone that turned out to be unelectable. And since it's a competitive 3-way race, he only needs 40% to win most likely. The thing that gives Howey pause is there's hardly been any polling by independent orgs and it's believed there are a ton of undecideds.

Indiana doesn't make polling easy, so its hard to tell who will win. I will say that I'm pretty confident the primary electorate in Indiana is more right wing then we give it credit for. They still gave Cruz 36%, when it was obvious Trump was going to win. They also kicked out the incumbent, putting is in this position of 2018. This may be a challenge for Braun.
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« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2018, 09:24:18 AM »

That Mark Souder can throw some serious shade

Also; StateBoiler, thank you for all your updates from the ground!
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« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2018, 10:05:06 AM »

That Mark Souder can throw some serious shade

Also; StateBoiler, thank you for all your updates from the ground!

Thanks.

Random guess:

Braun 38
Rokita 34
Messer 28

Kinda feel bad for Messer. If it was a 2-way between him and Rokita, I'd vote for him, but Braun or Rokita finishing 3rd I would find surprising, so that only leaves him to finish 3rd. It's not real numbers-based that analysis, just my gut.
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« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2018, 10:05:59 AM »

Lol that republican can't stand the thought of Braun being even remotely moderate (even though he has been campaigning as a conservative and has a voting record in Indiana).
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« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2018, 10:09:11 AM »

Does anyone else have a hard time telling Messer and Rokita apart?

mike braun literally did an ad about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKHqChRrYg

probably the best republican ad i've seen this cycle

I'm genuinely pretty worried about Braun winning the primary.

I have faith in the Republican primary electorate's finely attuned ability to select the worst possible candidate.
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« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2018, 10:12:44 AM »

Lol that republican can't stand the thought of Braun being even remotely moderate (even though he has been campaigning as a conservative and has a voting record in Indiana).

The only attack that's stuck somewhat on him is Braun voted in Democratic primaries until relatively recently because in his words the Democrats controlled his county's politics in spite of it being relatively conservative, and it was the only way for him to have local political influence was to pull a Democratic ballot. I read an editorial from a former county GOP chairman that pointed out "Rush Limbaugh was telling conservatives to do this exact thing 10 years ago".

I wish we had real party registration. It's stupid not too.
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