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« on: March 04, 2017, 07:23:03 AM »
« edited: March 06, 2017, 11:26:46 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »
https://twitter.com/fairvote/status/837728876742721536

Update, the Senate killed it.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2017, 09:35:09 AM »
Very nice. I think 2020 can be on the table with this scenario.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2017, 11:28:50 AM »
Quote from: Arch on March 04, 2017, 09:35:09 AM
Very nice. I think 2020 can be on the table with this scenario.

Does this even apply to federal elections?
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 11:32:28 AM »
Quote from: Holmes on March 04, 2017, 11:28:50 AM
Quote from: Arch on March 04, 2017, 09:35:09 AM
Very nice. I think 2020 can be on the table with this scenario.

Does this even apply to federal elections?

Presumably not, but there's the 2020 gubernatorial election.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 02:34:40 PM »
How would this impact the growth/persistence of a Mormon independent party led by McMullin?
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 02:59:48 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on March 04, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
How would this impact the growth/persistence of a Mormon independent party led by McMullin?

Depends on the Democrats in a IRV system they could run a wink and a nod campaign to McMullin against a Chaffetz type canidate. Like KS 2014 or ME 2012.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2017, 03:21:38 PM »
Terrific news!
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2017, 08:24:28 PM »
Great news!
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 12:29:47 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2017, 09:11:13 PM by LabourJersey »
So will this be passed by the State Senate/signed by the governor? Or is this just a pipe dream by the state house leaders?
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 04:25:49 PM »
Correction: this is actually only for primaries. And it's mainly an attempt to blunt candidates who go through the signature gathering route that the Utah GOP central committee and party leadership hate.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2017, 04:26:43 PM »
Quote from: Zioneer on March 05, 2017, 04:25:49 PM
Correction: this is actually only for primaries. And it's mainly an attempt to blunt candidates who go through the signature gathering route that the Utah GOP central committee and party leadership hate.

Ah, oh well.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2017, 05:03:51 PM »
Primaries is better than nothing.  Actually, primaries are one of the worst culprits of terrible results in FPTP imo.

Much better than my low energy assemblywoman who won't even reply to my letter about IRV.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2017, 05:07:26 PM »
One thing I love about Utah is their openness to expanding voter access and other decent election reforms. Of course, keeping in mind this is a state where Republicans do not fear losing any meaningful amount of power. I just wish other Republican-dominated states had these ideas.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2017, 11:32:03 AM »
Quote from: Zioneer on March 05, 2017, 04:25:49 PM
Correction: this is actually only for primaries. And it's mainly an attempt to blunt candidates who go through the signature gathering route that the Utah GOP central committee and party leadership hate.

I mean, to be fair, you should either have a primary OR a convention. Good on them for making their system less chaotic/convoluted
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2017, 11:19:57 PM »
Unfortunately, the Utah Senate killed the IRV bill as part of its power struggle with the Utah GOP Central Committee and delegates.
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2017, 05:29:51 PM »

Ah that's too bad.

Couldn't the GOP itself set rules for its own party processes that forego the conventions, or would that violate state law?
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