HB 2016-1079 - Congressional Resolution on Syria (AMENDMENT VOTE)
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« on: March 01, 2017, 09:29:51 PM »
« edited: March 06, 2017, 10:00:42 PM by Delegate NeverAgain »
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Sponsor: Blair

24 Hour Debate. Let's get this passed folks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 10:02:26 PM »
Okay, this'll be voted on as there was no debate. 13 hours and 53 minutes people!

AYE!
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 10:05:57 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2017, 12:28:18 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2017, 03:54:05 PM »
ABSTAIN

I should have spoken up earlier, but I feel that some aspects of the resolution need more nuance. Obviously Assad is awful, but saying that under "no circumstances" should he be allowed to remain President of Syria is a little too strong for my tastes
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2017, 04:01:12 PM »
Quote from: Ted Bessell, Bass God of the West on March 03, 2017, 03:54:05 PM
ABSTAIN

I should have spoken up earlier, but I feel that some aspects of the resolution need more nuance. Obviously Assad is awful, but saying that under "no circumstances" should he be allowed to remain President of Syria is a little too strong for my tastes
This. Ted raises some solid concerns.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2017, 08:12:11 PM »
I think as we saw in Iraq removing a brutal dictator from power while having many benefits has the potential to create a real power void with the potential to create real chaos. So while I like the spirit of this resolution, the section two really needs to be modified.  Therefore I vote Nay on this resolution (assuming the vote is still open on this resolution).  
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2017, 11:32:38 AM »
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I think as we saw in Iraq removing a brutal dictator from power while having many benefits has the potential to create a real power void with the potential to create real chaos. So while I like the spirit of this resolution, the section two really needs to be modified.  Therefore I vote Nay on this resolution (assuming the vote is still open on this resolution).  

Apples and Oranges: the example of Iraq and Saddam shouldn't mean that every removal of an awful, brutal (and frankly ineffective leader) is questioned. Milosevic in Serbia, Bagosora in Rwanda and numerous other examples can be cited where removing a foreign leader can work. The resolution doesn't even order the removal of Assad, it says he shouldn't be allowed to remain President in any peace deal. Iraq is the poster child for bad, reckless and unilateral intervention.

It's an abdication of our duty in the international community to allow someone like Assad; who's actions have lead to the death of 500,000 people.

I'll offer an amendment to clean up the bill though,

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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2017, 11:44:08 AM »
Uh, the final vote is already going on, I don't think you can add amendments...
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2017, 11:50:19 AM »
« Edited: March 04, 2017, 12:13:39 PM by Delegate NeverAgain »
Quote from: Goldwater on March 04, 2017, 11:44:08 AM
Uh, the final vote is already going on, I don't think you can add amendments...

*cough from a voice from beyond* You can motion for a pause which can be confirmed by the Acting Speaker, who is the Dean of the House of Representatives (Peebs), unless it is objected to.

EDIT: Speaker Yankee*
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2017, 11:54:08 AM »
Quote from: Goldwater on March 04, 2017, 11:44:08 AM
Uh, the final vote is already going on, I don't think you can add amendments...

Well I'm not even a rep so I can't technically offer an amendment- if you pass it though, a Senator can amend it
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2017, 11:58:35 AM »
I motion to suspend the vote, so I can offer Blair's amendment.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2017, 03:08:07 AM »
I ask unanimous consent to waive the rules and suspend the final vote on HB 2016-1079, Representatives have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2017, 04:06:40 AM »
Enduro do you also want to assume sponsorship?  Blair was the original sponsor of the Resolution as well.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2017, 08:36:16 AM »
Quote from: People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee on March 05, 2017, 04:06:40 AM
Enduro do you also want to assume sponsorship?  Blair was the original sponsor of the Resolution as well.

Might as well, we should continue making this bill better.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2017, 02:12:42 AM »
Representatives have 24 hours to object to Enduro's assumption of sponsorship for the underlying House Resolution 1079.

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2017, 03:24:15 AM »
With 24 hours having elapsed and no Senator having objected, the final vote has been suspended.

Enduro you can go ahead and offer the amendment.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2017, 12:55:18 PM »
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I'm offering Blair's amendment for him, and should we pass it, I trust the senate to catch anything we missed.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2017, 01:50:17 PM »
« Edited: March 11, 2017, 03:34:36 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »
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Status: Representatives have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2017, 04:01:21 PM »
Time has expired on objections to Enduro's assumption of sponsorship.


Time has also expired on objections to Enduro Amendment H5:01 and it is therefore deemed as having passed.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2017, 04:06:07 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2017, 07:02:44 PM »
Before the final vote, anyone else want to see a change in the text?
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2017, 07:12:39 PM »
I believe someone changed the layout of my bill! It looks much better though, and hope the amendment sorts out some concerns that people had
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2017, 03:40:24 AM »
Quote from: Blair on March 07, 2017, 07:12:39 PM
I believe someone changed the layout of my bill! It looks much better though, and hope the amendment sorts out some concerns that people had

That was me, I prefer the bills to look a certain way.


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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2017, 03:40:54 AM »
Last Call! For alco... err I mean amendments/debate etc? Tongue


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