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« on: July 26, 2005, 12:11:18 PM »

...yet border each other.

the most popular answer would be new hampshire and massachusetts.  however, i dont think nh is nearly as libertarian as they like to pretend.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2005, 12:16:36 PM »

I would say Maryland and West Virginia or Illinois and Kentucky (I think they touch).
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2005, 12:49:56 PM »

Washington and Idaho Cheesy

But Eastern Washington is simply outvoted by the Liberal Seattle Conurbation… where there no moves afoot for the Eastern half of the state to form its own state in the union? If so, what’s become of them?   

Aside from that Florida and Alabama, Maryland and West Virginia, Iowa and Nebraska, New Mexico and Oklahoma.     
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2005, 05:03:13 PM »

Illinois and Kentucky (I think they touch).

Yeah but the parts of IL that borders KY is very similer to the part of KY that that part of IL borders.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 06:58:35 PM »

Pennsylvania.  The two states that make up this one state are very different from one another.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2005, 10:18:51 PM »

Nevada and Utah.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2005, 10:26:55 PM »

Mevada & Utah

Colorado & Utah

Illinois & Indiana
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2005, 08:03:00 AM »

Pennsylvania.  The two states that make up this one state are very different from one another.

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2005, 10:14:30 AM »

NH and MA is of course a nonsense answer. Southern NH is basically the most affluent part of the Boston outer suburbia.

Lemme see...apart from the more obvious answers given as yet in the thread, can I come up with some other ones?
Indiana isn't as different from its neighbors as its voting history suggests...the components are basically the same, just the mix is different.
How similar are Iowa and Missouri? Iowa and Nebraska? Missouri and Tennessee?
Mississippi and Arkansas are in ways very different (one epitomizing the deep south, one the upper south, one long with a black majority, with a black pop. now long declining, one always overwhelmingly white, with a black population share not really fallen much, one with whites voting as a bloc, the other with the most Dem-friendly white population in the south), in others very similar (ie a history of poverty and cotton share cropping, only one dominant city)...

How about Oklahoma and Colorado? Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2005, 05:58:17 PM »

ND and MN
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2005, 07:30:46 PM »

Washington and Idaho Cheesy

But Eastern Washington is simply outvoted by the Liberal Seattle Conurbation… where there no moves afoot for the Eastern half of the state to form its own state in the union? If so, what’s become of them?   

Aside from that Florida and Alabama, Maryland and West Virginia, Iowa and Nebraska, New Mexico and Oklahoma.     


Washington and Idaho is the best answer.

The "secessionist" movement was like almost all others (for breaking up a state). It was not serious, never gained a serious amount of support, never really organized, and never found any success.

With the odd exception of West Virginia, states do not and probably never will break up.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2005, 08:49:03 PM »


I think SD and MN are better answers, even though ND is a stronger Republican state.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2005, 10:08:33 PM »

Pennsylvania.  The two states that make up this one state are very different from one another.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2005, 10:20:22 PM »

ID and WA (or OR)
NV and UT
ND and MN
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2005, 10:50:57 PM »


Illinois and Indiana are not that different.  Ill. is just Indiana with Chicago attached to it.
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2005, 01:33:04 AM »

North Carolina and South Carolina
Alabama and Florida
Arkansas and Texas
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2005, 02:13:34 AM »

Utah and New Mexico
Alaska and Hawaii
Nevada and Utah
Virginia and West Virginia

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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2005, 02:30:38 AM »

Utah and New Mexico
Alaska and Hawaii
Nevada and Utah
Virginia and West Virginia
Where's the Hawaii-Alaska border? Must've missed the news about Juneau seceding from Alaska and joining Hawaii. Cheesy
Nevada wouldn't be all that un-Utahn if you took Las Vegas out.
Similarly, Va and WVa have lots of similar areas, just a) the mix is different b) Virginia also has some area types lacking in WVa.
Okay, so I suppose you could say that NW Oklahoma and SE Colorado are similar too...but they're pretty small portions of either state.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2005, 03:54:13 AM »

Washington and Idaho is sort of the de facto answer here.

Nevada and Utah also qualify, with Nevada pretty libertarian and Utah pretty populist (Washington and Idaho both have a tinge of libertarianism to them, especially Washington).
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2005, 07:56:29 AM »

Utah and Rhode Island. How often have these two voted the same way in Presidential Elections?

The two states have to be touching.
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2005, 05:21:59 PM »

DC and Virginia

If DC doesn't count then Illinois and Missouri.
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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2005, 05:24:14 PM »

DC and Virginia

If DC doesn't count then Illinois and Missouri.

No.  The part of Illinois that touches Missouri is very much like Missouri.  (Illinois without Cook County voted for Bush by about the same margin as Missouri).
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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2005, 06:32:53 PM »

Idaho and Washington
Oklahoma and New Mexico
Vermont and New Hampshire
Iowa and South Dakota
Louisiana and Mississippi
Utah and Nevada
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2005, 08:11:33 AM »

Utah and New Mexico
Alaska and Hawaii
Nevada and Utah
Virginia and West Virginia
Where's the Hawaii-Alaska border? Must've missed the news about Juneau seceding from Alaska and joining Hawaii. Cheesy
The Aleutians are only 2300 miles from Honolulu.  San Francisco is more than 2400.
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Reno is like Provo only with gambling, quicky marriages, prostitution, silver mining?  At least Las Vegas was founded by Mormans.
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Virginia and Indiana are the most consistently Republican states east of the Mississippi.  It is considered an upset if the Republicans win one of West Virginia's congressional seats.  What does it mean to be lacking in WVa?
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Do you consider the panhandle to be NWOK?
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2005, 09:44:20 AM »

Utah and New Mexico
Alaska and Hawaii
Nevada and Utah
Virginia and West Virginia
Where's the Hawaii-Alaska border? Must've missed the news about Juneau seceding from Alaska and joining Hawaii. Cheesy
The Aleutians are only 2300 miles from Honolulu.  San Francisco is more than 2400.
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Reno is like Provo only with gambling, quicky marriages, prostitution, silver mining?  At least Las Vegas was founded by Mormans.
Not sure about Reno (though the area votes conservative-ish). But rural Nevada is just as Republican as rural Utah, and in parts almost as Mormon. (And even emptier.)
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Virginia and Indiana are the most consistently Republican states east of the Mississippi.  It is considered an upset if the Republicans win one of West Virginia's congressional seats.  What does it mean to be lacking in WVa?
[/quote]Virginia has been consistently Republican in presidentials over the past fifty years, but its congressional delegation was dem-dominated until quite recently (just as all over the South.) The Reps do hold a seat in W.Va. and have for quite a while, and the state's only got three of'em.
As to the areas...Southern W.Va. appears to be quite like  Southwestern Virginia. Central W.Va. more like Northeastern Va. Obviously Wheeling is very much a Northern Rustbelt city unless you also consider vast parts of Ohio Southern, but that's not a large part of W.Va. (though larger in pop. than in area.) What W.Va. doesn't have but Va. has in abundance is a) NOVA b) that rich rural white conservative coastal area. And no Black Belt, but Va. doesn't have all that much of that either.
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Do you consider the panhandle to be NWOK?

[/quote]Part of it. I think the area just east and southeast of the Panhandle to just outside OKCity is pretty similar.
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