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« Reply #425 on: September 01, 2022, 01:30:45 PM »

Missouri will be the fifth state to vote on legalization this November; along with North Dakota, South Dakota, Maryland & Oklahoma.




Honestly I think this prolly passes. It seems to be an issue that tends to do universally well with Dems and a lot of rural populists GOP counties.

Almost a certain pass. Missouri has a long history of very liberal laws about "vices" - alcohol, casinos, and so on. This fits into that nicely.
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« Reply #426 on: September 11, 2022, 11:06:53 PM »

Isn't the 10 day waiting period in Oklahoma over tomorrow?  Will we find out tomorrow if it'll be on the ballot in November?
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« Reply #427 on: September 11, 2022, 11:26:06 PM »

Missouri will be the fifth state to vote on legalization this November; along with North Dakota, South Dakota, Maryland & Oklahoma.



Honestly I think this prolly passes. It seems to be an issue that tends to do universally well with Dems and a lot of rural populists GOP counties.

Almost a certain pass. Missouri has a long history of very liberal laws about "vices" - alcohol, casinos, and so on. This fits into that nicely.

America as a whole does with popular liberal ballot measures.
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« Reply #428 on: September 22, 2022, 05:50:42 PM »
« Edited: September 22, 2022, 07:30:17 PM by Interlocutor »

The Oklahoma Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the legalization measure won't be on the November ballot after all.

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-ballot-legalization-recreational-marijuana/41319327


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On the flip side, Arkansas Supreme Court just ruled that their November ballot measure will be counted.

https://www.ky3.com/2022/09/23/recreational-marijuana-measure-okd-arkansas-ballot/
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« Reply #429 on: September 24, 2022, 05:13:56 PM »

The Oklahoma Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the legalization measure won't be on the November ballot after all.

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-ballot-legalization-recreational-marijuana/41319327

The petitioners just ran out of time. It'll definitely be on the 2024 ballot in Oklahoma.
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« Reply #430 on: September 24, 2022, 05:37:24 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2022, 08:27:30 PM by Martha's Vineyard is for Lovers »

Here's where things stand now. I gave Virginia and Vermont lighter shades of green because while possession is legal, selling is not. I'll make changes to the map when necessary and we'll see what it looks like after November.

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« Reply #431 on: October 16, 2022, 04:32:20 PM »

Missouri will be the fifth state to vote on legalization this November; along with North Dakota, South Dakota, Maryland & Oklahoma.




Honestly I think this prolly passes. It seems to be an issue that tends to do universally well with Dems and a lot of rural populists GOP counties.

Almost a certain pass. Missouri has a long history of very liberal laws about "vices" - alcohol, casinos, and so on. This fits into that nicely.

https://www.ky3.com/2022/09/20/poll-results-how-missourians-feel-about-legalization-marijuana/?outputType=amp

A poll from September 19th had it at 62% approval in Missouri.
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« Reply #432 on: October 17, 2022, 11:17:26 AM »

On the flip side, Arkansas Supreme Court just ruled that their November ballot measure will be counted.

https://www.ky3.com/2022/09/23/recreational-marijuana-measure-okd-arkansas-ballot/

This should be added to the thread title, FWIW (unless I'm missing something).
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« Reply #433 on: November 09, 2022, 12:28:04 AM »

Here's where things stand now. I gave Virginia and Vermont lighter shades of green because while possession is legal, selling is not. I'll make changes to the map when necessary and we'll see what it looks like after November.



How the Frick is that possible in Vermont?!?

Oh wait. Answer begins with Phil and ends with Scott,  right?
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« Reply #434 on: November 09, 2022, 12:39:27 AM »

Here's where things stand now. I gave Virginia and Vermont lighter shades of green because while possession is legal, selling is not. I'll make changes to the map when necessary and we'll see what it looks like after November.



How the Frick is that possible in Vermont?!?

Oh wait. Answer begins with Phil and ends with Scott,  right?

Indeed. Phil Scott vetoed a real legalization bill that would have allowed open markets. Possession is legal but selling is not. That was the sh!tty compromise.

Virginia is similar in that you can grow marijuana and give it to people as a gift. Yes, a "gift." If there's profit involved, it's illegal. But cases like that would probably be thrown out.
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« Reply #435 on: November 09, 2022, 12:40:48 AM »

Also, I am paying more attention to the Congressional races now but I will update the map as results come in.
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« Reply #436 on: November 09, 2022, 02:32:54 AM »



Here's where we are now. Arkansas rejected legalization, but...
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The initiative drew the criticism of traditional legalization opponents as well as some medical marijuana advocates, who said the Arkansas proposal placed too many limits and would only benefit a handful of dispensaries.

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North Dakota’s proposal would have allowed people 21 and older to legally use marijuana at home as well as possess and cultivate restricted amounts of cannabis. It also would have established policies to regulate retail stores, cultivators and other types of marijuana businesses.

“It’s pretty clear North Dakota families don’t want marijuana across the state,” said Luke Niforatos, executive vice president of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, a Virginia-based political organization against marijuana legalization, which helped fight the measure in North Dakota.

Missouri’s proposal would legalize recreational marijuana for adults 21 and older and expunge records of past arrests and convictions for nonviolent marijuana offenses, except for selling to minors or driving under the influence. Maryland’s proposal will also make changes in criminal law and create automatic expungements of past marijuana possession convictions.

And strangely, it appears to be failing in South Dakota.

I will update the map once everything's official.
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« Reply #437 on: November 09, 2022, 07:58:19 AM »

The failure in South Dakota is strange. Anyone have any ideas?
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« Reply #438 on: November 09, 2022, 12:14:03 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2022, 03:36:19 PM by Country Liberal »

I wish we could have a greener map, but I'm grateful for the victories we had last night.

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« Reply #439 on: November 09, 2022, 02:57:36 PM »

I wish we could have a greener map, but I'm grateful for the victories we had last night.


Recreational marijuana is currently partially legal in Minnesota, and will probably be fully legal in the coming session.
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« Reply #440 on: November 09, 2022, 03:05:12 PM »

I wish we could have a greener map, but I'm grateful for the victories we had last night.


Recreational marijuana is currently partially legal in Minnesota, and will probably be fully legal in the coming session.

"Partially legal" in the sense that possession but not sale is legal in Virginia and Vermont?
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« Reply #441 on: November 09, 2022, 03:31:30 PM »

I wish we could have a greener map, but I'm grateful for the victories we had last night.


Recreational marijuana is currently partially legal in Minnesota, and will probably be fully legal in the coming session.

"Partially legal" in the sense that possession but not sale is legal in Virginia and Vermont?

No, marijuana in plant form is still illegal to possess albeit decriminalized. However edibles are legal to both possess and sell if they meet certain restrictions, 5mg a serving cap, 50mg a package, has to be labeled not for children, can't resemble children's candy and can only be sold to 21+, but if those restrictions are met they can be sold literally anywhere. Record stores, sex shops, mall kiosks, grocery stores, gas stations, movie theaters and coffee shops all sell them and infused drinks.
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« Reply #442 on: November 09, 2022, 03:37:22 PM »

I wish we could have a greener map, but I'm grateful for the victories we had last night.


Recreational marijuana is currently partially legal in Minnesota, and will probably be fully legal in the coming session.

"Partially legal" in the sense that possession but not sale is legal in Virginia and Vermont?

No, marijuana in plant form is still illegal to possess albeit decriminalized. However edibles are legal to both possess and sell if they meet certain restrictions, 5mg a serving cap, 50mg a package, has to be labeled not for children, can't resemble children's candy and can only be sold to 21+, but if those restrictions are met they can be sold literally anywhere. Record stores, sex shops, mall kiosks, grocery stores, gas stations, movie theaters and coffee shops all sell them and infused drinks.

Huh. Well, I made MN regular green since it's legal in all but name and almost certainly will be next year.
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« Reply #443 on: November 09, 2022, 03:51:00 PM »

I wish we could have a greener map, but I'm grateful for the victories we had last night.


Recreational marijuana is currently partially legal in Minnesota, and will probably be fully legal in the coming session.

"Partially legal" in the sense that possession but not sale is legal in Virginia and Vermont?

No, marijuana in plant form is still illegal to possess albeit decriminalized. However edibles are legal to both possess and sell if they meet certain restrictions, 5mg a serving cap, 50mg a package, has to be labeled not for children, can't resemble children's candy and can only be sold to 21+, but if those restrictions are met they can be sold literally anywhere. Record stores, sex shops, mall kiosks, grocery stores, gas stations, movie theaters and coffee shops all sell them and infused drinks.

Huh. Well, I made MN regular green since it's legal in all but name and almost certainly will be next year.
Yeah it's kind of funny, I was looking for a CBD drink yesterday (not THC as I don't use that anymore but I needed to calm my Election Day nerves) and the closest place I found one near the DFL campaign HQ was this coffee shop that just had some sitting for sale in a fridge along with cold teas and sparkling water like coffee shops sell...and THC drinks. Just sitting there side by side.
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« Reply #444 on: November 10, 2022, 02:55:29 PM »

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« Reply #445 on: November 14, 2022, 02:13:33 PM »

Here's a county map of Amendment 3 in Missouri:


*Note: New Madrid County actually voted NO on Amendment 3 (No 53.63%). For some reason, when the author of this tweet produced the map, the results showed Amendment 3 passing.

Highest Support
• Kansas City (77.83%)
• St. Louis City (73.00%)
• Jackson County (including Kansas City): 67.51%
• Platte (62.34%)
• Boone (62.25%)
• Clay (61.36%)
• Jackson County (without Kansas City): 60.76%
• St. Louis County (58.96%)
• St. Charles (54.99%)
• Jefferson (54.57%)
• Cass (53.72%)
• Greene (52.50%)
• Johnson (51.89%)
• Ray (51.78%)
• Buchanan (51.43%)
• St. Francois (50.53%)

Highest Opposition
• Barton (71.40%)
• Wright (69.80%)
• Shelby (69.32%)
• Osage (69.24%)
• Harrison (67.69%)
• Douglas (67.66%)
• Macon (67.35%)
• Mercer (65.92%)
• Dent (65.90%)
• Sullivan (65.83%)
• Chariton (65.68%)
• Maries (65.34%)
• Gasconade (65.14%)
• Dade (65.01%) 
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« Reply #446 on: November 18, 2022, 03:23:50 PM »

Here's a county map of Amendment 3 in Missouri:


*Note: New Madrid County actually voted NO on Amendment 3 (No 53.63%). For some reason, when the author of this tweet produced the map, the results showed Amendment 3 passing.

Highest Support
• Kansas City (77.83%)
• St. Louis City (73.00%)
• Jackson County (including Kansas City): 67.51%
• Platte (62.34%)
• Boone (62.25%)
• Clay (61.36%)
• Jackson County (without Kansas City): 60.76%
• St. Louis County (58.96%)
• St. Charles (54.99%)
• Jefferson (54.57%)
• Cass (53.72%)
• Greene (52.50%)
• Johnson (51.89%)
• Ray (51.78%)
• Buchanan (51.43%)
• St. Francois (50.53%)

Highest Opposition
• Barton (71.40%)
• Wright (69.80%)
• Shelby (69.32%)
• Osage (69.24%)
• Harrison (67.69%)
• Douglas (67.66%)
• Macon (67.35%)
• Mercer (65.92%)
• Dent (65.90%)
• Sullivan (65.83%)
• Chariton (65.68%)
• Maries (65.34%)
• Gasconade (65.14%)
• Dade (65.01%) 

Living in a rural county, I heard people blame the “big cities” (St. Louis, Kansas City, and Columbia)  for Amendment 3 passing, but what really made the difference were the rural areas: NO ran 10-20 points behind Trump across the board there, which is the reason this vote wasn’t just a repeat of the past three presidential elections

Nice to see it pass in Greene County, too.
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« Reply #447 on: November 25, 2022, 08:48:08 AM »

The failure in South Dakota is strange. Anyone have any ideas?
I’m still wondering about this.
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« Reply #448 on: November 25, 2022, 04:57:46 PM »

What's rural Missouri's deal? They love tf out of their meth but weed is a step too far?
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« Reply #449 on: November 25, 2022, 05:42:06 PM »

What's rural Missouri's deal? They love tf out of their meth but weed is a step too far?

Evangelicals are freaking weird.
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