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« on: February 02, 2017, 05:46:38 PM »

Top kek. This is not your traditional GOP anymore.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 05:48:36 PM »

I'm willing to let this play out, but this could be the start of a betrayal.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 05:49:10 PM »

That dirty Muslim! Oh wait he's a republican? Uh....I mean what a great stand for peace.-Fox News
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 05:53:37 PM »

Lol
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 05:54:47 PM »

Imagine the meltdown from the neo-cons if he put them "on notice" on Twitter.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 05:56:32 PM »

Interesting, this is the W position.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 05:58:36 PM »

Yeah, Bush did the same thing.

The difference was, Obama considered Jerusalem a settlement and considered any rejection by Israel of his diktats to be a personal betrayal that demanded retribution.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 06:01:18 PM »

100% sure this a head fake. I am interested in what SATW and DavidB have to say about this.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 06:10:35 PM »

lol

Regardless of what this turns out to be, Netanyahu must be very unhappy right now
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 06:12:27 PM »

Good.  I hope he threatens to cut off aid if they defy him.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 06:14:48 PM »

100% sure this a head fake. I am interested in what SATW and DavidB have to say about this.

David B was a hillary supporter in the general
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 06:23:30 PM »

Imagine the meltdown from the neo-cons if he put them "on notice" on Twitter.

Mark Levin's head will explode after he calls Trump anti-semetic while calling for America to carpet bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.

lol.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 06:27:54 PM »

I'm willing to let this play out, but this could be the start of a betrayal.

betrayal of whom?

everyone knew this was going to happen.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 06:30:29 PM »

Yeah, Bush did the same thing.

The difference was, Obama considered Jerusalem a settlement and considered any rejection by Israel of his diktats to be a personal betrayal that demanded retribution.

bibi worked on a personal level against obama and even made israel into a partisan issue through visiting the republicans and snubbing the democrats.

i am always amazed that everyone all the time criticizes the US for how they treat "israel", aka the israeli government but never ever follows the same rules for the behaviour of israel's government of radicals.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 06:31:31 PM »

Lies.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/827298063484084227
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 06:33:06 PM »


Why I am I supposed to believe Baghdad Sean? Again though, I highly doubt Trump will act on this at all.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 06:33:19 PM »

Bad, if true. Still better than any Hillary Clinton administration would have said or done.
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 06:35:18 PM »

Bad, if true. Still better than any Hillary Clinton administration would have said or done.

if you follow that thought you can be in a position to never ever criticize any government, cause you are convinced someone else would be worse.

contrary to obama, who just talked, this government is ready to punish those who disagree with their worldview.
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 06:38:37 PM »

if you follow that thought you can be in a position to never ever criticize any government, cause you are convinced someone else would be worse.

contrary to obama, who just talked, this government is ready to punish those who disagree with their worldview.
Isn't "bad" criticism? Apart from that... we'll see, but it's clear the main policy architects of the Trump administration have a highly positive view of Israel. That would not at all be the case with a Democratic administration increasingly cosying up to repulsive organizations like J Street. In addition to that, Netanyahu and Trump have a good relationship, which, given Trump's impulsive inclinations, may now matter more than ever.
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2017, 06:40:12 PM »

Another source came out.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/317655-white-house-warns-israel-on-settlements-report
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2017, 06:41:38 PM »

btw contrarian theory:

one of the many test ballons trump's administration chooses to test a topic.

if they don't like the results, they blame it on a media mistake, if it works, they go with it.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2017, 06:43:09 PM »

No, they are just quoting the Jerusalem Post in this article.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2017, 06:45:09 PM »

Yeah, Bush did the same thing.

The difference was, Obama considered Jerusalem a settlement and considered any rejection by Israel of his diktats to be a personal betrayal that demanded retribution.

bibi worked on a personal level against obama and even made israel into a partisan issue through visiting the republicans and snubbing the democrats.

i am always amazed that everyone all the time criticizes the US for how they treat "israel", aka the israeli government but never ever follows the same rules for the behaviour of israel's government of radicals.

One of Obama's first acts in office was to declare Israel's capital a settlement and retaliate diplomatically because Israel built houses.

Obama and Netanyahu both took direct shots to get each other out of office. Only one then escalated that feud to put the other country's continued existence in jeopardy.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2017, 06:48:29 PM »

to put the other country's continued existence in jeopardy.

this is hyperbole.

in which way has obama endangered israel's existence? not nuking iran? asking for too much concessions?
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2017, 06:49:12 PM »

It's probably true. They want to remain in charge, they don't want Israel to set the agenda. While I obviously oppose that as a Zionist just as much as I opposed the Obama administration imposing its wishes on a sovereign Israel, one cannot realistically expect anything different (though it is true I hoped for it...). It does seem as if the Trump admin didn't understand the specific national context in which the last couple thousand of houses were announced; they were necessary to pacify the Jewish Home in the face of the shameful eviction of Amona.

But whatever. G-d has a reason for everything. Perhaps it's for the better and we just don't know. It would be wrong to say I'm not slightly worried. But I'm still optimistic.
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