Opinion of Queer Theory

[buritobr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory

[DavidB.]

Interesting subject for sure. On the one hand I support people being free to express themselves as they want and to be who they are. On the other hand I feel that the notion of "queerness" has impeded acceptance of LGBT people, and radical gay activism has made it harder for people in non-accepting environments to come out (even if it has also helped push the Overton window and forced society to think about gay issues in the first place, which has caused progress and made it easier for people to come out). A mixed opinion, I guess. Most people in this field are undoubtedly HPs (though HPs with whom I can have an interesting conversation), but I'm not going to brand the theory itself that way.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

HT has four votes.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

HT has four votes.

More the Zero FT votes(before me). At the time, disregarding "never heard of it", it made a large majority, with "don't care" coming in second.

[Intell]

HT, or rather, who care?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

There's an enormous diversity within it, all the way from "jsyk plenty of societies have more than two gender roles" to "IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT ADDING AROMANTIC HETEROSEXUALS TO ~THE ACRONYM~ YOU'RE COMPLICIT IN GENOCIDE". Voted HT because I've had personally iffy experiences with it, but it's not uniformly bad and some of its more helpful insights have been rightly imported into more august fields.

[SATW]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

[Intell]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

If you're cis, straight and white, there is no reason to believe they're privileged.

[Devout Centrist]

It has its positives and negatives. I'm taking a gender and communications course, and overall, it's rather inoffensive when you look at it academically. When the New Left starts taking it over, it goes downhill.

[SATW]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

If you're cis, straight and white, there is no reason to believe they're privileged.

I'm bisexual, and I don't think this "privilege" nonsense is a legitimate thing to whine about.

[Mr. Smith]

Meh

[JA]

As a liberal Sociology student, obviously I'm going to vote FT.

[Arturo Belano]

With my personal encounters it's insightful stuff, though it can be hit or miss depending the circumstances. FT

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Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

basic atlas stereotypes Alice: everybody here is gay.

[DavidB.]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

[Intell]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

If you're cis, straight and white, there is no reason to believe they're privileged.

I'm bisexual, and I don't think this "privilege" nonsense is a legitimate thing to whine about.

I agree with you, a person being cis, straight, male and white, there's no reason to why because of that, they're privelleged. I'm sure these people in Rural, Appalachian KY, WV, are very very privileged.

[LLR]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

If you're cis, straight and white, there is no reason to believe they're privileged.

I'm bisexual, and I don't think this "privilege" nonsense is a legitimate thing to whine about.

I agree with you, a person being cis, straight, male and white, there's no reason to why because of that, they're privelleged. I'm sure these people in Rural, Appalachian KY, WV, are very very privileged.

Remember Intell, privilege is 100% identity and 0% anything else.

[White Trash]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

If you're cis, straight and white, there is no reason to believe they're privileged.

I'm bisexual, and I don't think this "privilege" nonsense is a legitimate thing to whine about.

I agree with you, a person being cis, straight, male and white, there's no reason to why because of that, they're privelleged. I'm sure these people in Rural, Appalachian KY, WV, are very very privileged.

Of course they are. If you are a white, cis-gendered straight male in America, then being poor is your fault. Why don't you work harder you lazy hick?

[Virginiá]

I agree with you, a person being cis, straight, male and white, there's no reason to why because of that, they're privelleged. I'm sure these people in Rural, Appalachian KY, WV, are very very privileged.

Still, even if that context, a gay black man in rural Appalachian Kentucky might still say his straight, white neighbor has more 'privilege,' even if both are in dire straights economically. There is always going to be some form of social hierarchy. In some ways I'm tempted to be sympathetic to the straight white rural Appalachian man who says its an insult to say he has some sort of privilege when he constantly struggles to feed his family in a world that has seemingly forgotten them, but to gay non-white person in the same region and same economic situation, the fact that they have to deal with numerous forms of bigotry on top of that might, imo, correctly lead them to see those white folks as having advantages that elevate themselves above others. Even as someone who is white but LGBT, I can understand the potential for resentment as straight people are insulated from a good deal of psychological (and sometimes physical) hardship in their lives that lgbt people often go through. Even more so for someone who is not white.

However, I still assert that even if you do think these folks have some sort of privilege, it's probably counter-productive to constantly try and remind them of that, considering they have some understandable reasons to believe they don't have any privilege - not when you're barely scraping by day to day, or maybe have gone through their own personal hell growing up.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

If you're cis, straight and white, there is no reason to believe they're privileged.

I'm bisexual, and I don't think this "privilege" nonsense is a legitimate thing to whine about.

I mean, you're also white, male, and presumably affluent.

[Associate Justice PiT]

My sentiments are increasingly negative, and I wish that it were easier to discuss these things without critical thoughts or skepticism being interpreted as an attack on someone's human dignity. (Sort of a broad topic for a poll, though, isn't it?)

     It's a convenient defense mechanism for the ideology; criticisms of it can be dismissed as bigoted and ignorant attacks on the people placed under its aegis. As someone who values discourse, I have an instinctively negative reaction to any ideology where a response of this kind is proffered as an actual argument:

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

[Intell]

I agree with you, a person being cis, straight, male and white, there's no reason to why because of that, they're privelleged. I'm sure these people in Rural, Appalachian KY, WV, are very very privileged.

Still, even if that context, a gay black man in rural Appalachian Kentucky might still say his straight, white neighbor has more 'privilege,' even if both are in dire straights economically. There is always going to be some form of social hierarchy. In some ways I'm tempted to be sympathetic to the straight white rural Appalachian man who says its an insult to say he has some sort of privilege when he constantly struggles to feed his family in a world that has seemingly forgotten them, but to gay non-white person in the same region and same economic situation, the fact that they have to deal with numerous forms of bigotry on top of that might, imo, correctly lead them to see those white folks as having advantages that elevate themselves above others. Even as someone who is white but LGBT, I can understand the potential for resentment as straight people are insulated from a good deal of psychological (and sometimes physical) hardship in their lives that lgbt people often go through. Even more so for someone who is not white.

However, I still assert that even if you do think these folks have some sort of privilege, it's probably counter-productive to constantly try and remind them of that, considering they have some understandable reasons to believe they don't have any privilege - not when you're barely scraping by day to day, or maybe have gone through their own personal hell growing up.

Of course, the black gay man in Appalachia if he is poor in Appalachia, is more disprivelleged than the poor, white man in Appalachia, but let's not say there is inherently privilege because you're white, male and cis, because there's not.

The poorest counties in the country, include the Missipi Delta (90+% blacks), and Eastern Coal Mining KY (95+% white.)

[Xing]

Of course there are straight white men in America who have it hard, no doubt harder than someone like Oprah Winfrey. I can't think of anyone I know who would deny that. Just saying that they're "privileged" and leaving it at that doesn't do their situation justice, and no doubt pushes a lot of people away. However, I do think that there are certain attitudes that, by and large, only people of color have to deal with in this country.

For example, imagine a white people being incredibly rude in a public place like a bus. People would judge that person, but they would likely judge them as an individual. If a black person were doing the same thing, there would likely be people who would make judgments about all black people, rather than just that one individual. Also, while the impoverished white coal miner in West Virginia has plenty to worry about, he doesn't have to think about race. For many people of color, thinking about race is not a choice. They are constantly made aware of the fact that they are different, even by people who do not have bad intentions. Having lived in a country where I was a racial minority, I can tell you that those in a "majority" group, including the many people who are not bigoted at all, often have no idea what it's like to be in the minority.

Now, to answer the question posed in this topic, I'd say that my opinion is mixed. I probably agree with a good amount of Queer Theory, though the way some people sell/deliver it does end up turning off a lot of people.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Of course a group of straight white privileged cis-men would hate it.

You clearly haven't been here long...