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« on: January 19, 2017, 12:52:36 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2017, 01:01:45 PM »

Not a surprise but it will be the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party in California I believe.

Lol, good luck with tha
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2017, 01:07:57 PM »

Not a surprise but it will be the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party in California I believe.

it's more probable that this is going to cripple the national dem party than the californian one.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2017, 01:09:08 PM »

Not a surprise but it will be the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party in California I believe.

Lol, good luck with that
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2017, 01:10:49 PM »

Not a surprise but it will be the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party in California I believe.

No. That's idiotic beyond measure. The Bernie Democrats are more aligned with the base California Democratic / liberal voter (which makes up the majority of CA voters) than the Clinton wing.

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2017, 01:11:38 PM »

Not a surprise but it will be the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party in California I believe.
Considering Bernie and his ideas are popular I don't see how
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2017, 01:15:29 PM »

As long as they don't try to pull some weird shenanigans like implementing a caucus for California and putting all of the meeting places in Mendocino County, I'm fine with this. Parties should be run by their grassroots elements (as long as they know what they're doing) so you don't have a situation of an clear victory being marred by charges of illegitimacy like DWS so kindly gave us last year.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2017, 01:18:09 PM »

The rise of Communism in America.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2017, 01:35:06 PM »

California is a much better state than Vermont to experiment with single payer, if that's the goal.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2017, 01:52:03 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2017, 02:01:07 PM by ERM64man »

As long as they don't try to pull some weird shenanigans like implementing a caucus for California and putting all of the meeting places in Mendocino County, I'm fine with this. Parties should be run by their grassroots elements (as long as they know what they're doing) so you don't have a situation of an clear victory being marred by charges of illegitimacy like DWS so kindly gave us last year.
If the party replaces the primary with a caucus, my relatives who are mostly Democrats (who voted for Hillary Clinton; many who live in very conservative neighborhoods like I do) would never turn out, and they almost always turn out for primaries. Do you think the state's party will actually replace the primary with a caucus?
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2017, 02:10:15 PM »

Shouldn't have nominated Trump I guess!
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 02:17:59 PM »

REVOLUTIOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2017, 02:56:05 PM »

With each passing day I ask myself with increasing confusion why I'm not packing up and moving to California already.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2017, 03:08:41 PM »

With each passing day I ask myself with increasing confusion why I'm not packing up and moving to California already.

I think this too sometimes, but then realize it's not that bad in Maryland.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2017, 03:34:03 PM »

Who controls the offices of local Democratic parties is not nearly as important as who runs in primaries.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2017, 03:40:51 PM »


Communism has a good track record of quashing fascism.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2017, 03:44:03 PM »

Who controls the offices of local Democratic parties is not nearly as important as who runs in primaries.

Yes this. In America the state parties aren't very important, given that candidates run, fundraise and vote freely.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2017, 03:51:21 PM »

I mean, California uses a top-two primary for every office except President, so I'm not sure how much the state party leadership really has...
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2017, 04:00:19 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2017, 04:07:58 PM by ERM64man »

I mean, California uses a top-two primary for every office except President, so I'm not sure how much the state party leadership really has...
The party leadership can't decide how non-presidential races are decided. The leadership might be very powerful, but is barred by law from changing the non-presidential primary method because of the jungle primary. Might the state's party implement a Presidential caucus?
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2017, 04:13:21 PM »

It depends on if they show up at the convention. At the national convention last year, a lot of Sanders delegates didn't know they had to pay their own way and had to scrape up money to go at the last minute. The strongest thing the state party does is fund the legislative races, which is more of a higher up decision.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 04:36:32 PM »

With each passing day I ask myself with increasing confusion why I'm not packing up and moving to California already.

Maybe you wouldn't want your life to be ridiculously expensive.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 05:39:33 PM »

If the party replaces the primary with a voter-less convention (even worse than a caucus) like the Colorado GOP had in 2016, being registered as a Democrat in California will become useless because there would be no Democratic primaries or even caucuses to vote in.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 08:52:19 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2017, 09:10:09 PM by Chickenhawk »

Who controls the offices of local Democratic parties is not nearly as important as who runs in primaries.

Yes this. In America the state parties aren't very important, given that candidates run, fundraise and vote freely.

In a world where candidates are easy to come by, sure.

But in a world (this one) where you have to run your butt off to recruit *someone * to run for half the local offices? When half of them don't know a poll from their wristwatch? When half of them think they don't have to fundraise, talk to voters, or do *anything * at all to get elected?

Local parties matter quite a bit, and that's not even counting the amount of informal power the chair has over who runs and receives resources in the primaries.  


EDIT: Not to mention that state standing committees/poorly attended state Cons are the people that nominate DNC members, designate (IIRC) the superdels that aren't elected officials, and the chairs themselves are DNC members.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 08:53:07 PM »

Can't get any more left wing anyway.  Remember when Ron Paul supporters took over all those state parties?  Look how well it turned out for them.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 08:57:36 PM »

Excellent news!  The same thing happened in Hawaii.  Get rid of all the corporatists NOW.
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