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The Other Castro
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« Reply #300 on: January 31, 2017, 08:43:02 PM »

I'm not saying not to fight, just that people shouldn't reasonably expect that Gorsuch's confirmation will be prevented.
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« Reply #301 on: January 31, 2017, 08:43:41 PM »

"I voted for him before in a unanimous vote, but good God I could never vote for him now because he's Trump's Obama's nominee."

Expect a lot of that.

Somebody's late to the party.
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« Reply #302 on: January 31, 2017, 08:45:20 PM »

Regardless of how badly Democrats want to stop this and how deservedly pissed they are about Garland's seat being stolen, this is simply a fight that cannot be won. Neil Gorsuch may be a conservative, but he is too qualified for Democrats to stay grouped against his confirmation. Enough cracks will appear.   

Gorsuch is to the right of Scalia...
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« Reply #303 on: January 31, 2017, 08:53:14 PM »

Paul will vote for Gorsuch. Warner and Manchin probably will too.
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« Reply #304 on: January 31, 2017, 08:58:09 PM »

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« Reply #305 on: January 31, 2017, 08:58:33 PM »

I would guess all Republicans plus Manchin, Donnelly, Heitkamp, McCaskill, Tester, Warner, and Casey will support Gorsuch.  That's 59 votes for him.
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« Reply #306 on: January 31, 2017, 08:59:22 PM »

Yuck. Well, those of us on the left should be accustomed to expecting the worst now, even though Trump usually manages to be worse than the worst.
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« Reply #307 on: January 31, 2017, 09:04:10 PM »

Protestors outside of the SC shouting "WE WILL NOT GO BACK!"
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« Reply #308 on: January 31, 2017, 09:07:00 PM »

Sherrod Brown has announced his opposition to Gorsuch.
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« Reply #309 on: January 31, 2017, 09:08:08 PM »

Warning sign for Dems looking to block this:

Manu Raju ‏@mkraju  6m6 minutes ago
Sen. Mark Warner, a rare D offering praise for Gorsuch, saying he has an "impressive resume and academic background."

Warner should get primaried in 2020. What a cuck.
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« Reply #310 on: January 31, 2017, 09:08:34 PM »

Sherrod Brown has announced his opposition to Gorsuch.

FFF!!! (Freedom Fighter Forever)
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« Reply #311 on: January 31, 2017, 09:11:05 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2017, 09:13:04 PM by Castro »

Ed Markey has also announced his opposition.

Cortez-Masto says Gorsuch needs intense scrutiny, but doesn't say how she'll vote.

Schumer says he has serious doubts about Gorsuch, and that the Senate must insist on 60 votes.
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« Reply #312 on: January 31, 2017, 09:12:37 PM »

Protestors outside of the SC shouting "WE WILL NOT GO BACK!"
Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon.
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« Reply #313 on: January 31, 2017, 09:14:00 PM »

Protestors outside of the SC shouting "WE WILL NOT GO BACK!"
Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon.

"Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon." - Me, watching the news circa early 2010.
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« Reply #314 on: January 31, 2017, 09:15:26 PM »

Protestors outside of the SC shouting "WE WILL NOT GO BACK!"
Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon.

"Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon." - Me, watching the news circa early 2010.
The Tea Party as you knew it then died in 2013. I don't see the connection.
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« Reply #315 on: January 31, 2017, 09:15:34 PM »

Any Democrat who doesn't filibuster is a traitor and must be primaried.
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« Reply #316 on: January 31, 2017, 09:15:50 PM »

Which Republicans would vote against Gorsuch and which Dems would vote for him? Maybe Manchin and Paul could be defectors, but that's about it, unless I'm underestimating Collins.

LOL. Collins is not a moderate despite her pretend appearances, and Paul wouldn't dare cross McConnell on something like this. I think he gets to 60 fairly easily anyway. Heitkamp, Manchin, Donnelly, Tester, McCaskill, Warner, King, and Baldwin seem like the most obvious path, but a few more could jump on. Though if I were Schumer, I'd want to get rid of the nuclear option anyway, that way when D's do eventually win the majority, they can use the rules already intact.

Baldwin won't vote for a right-wing nutjob like Gorsuch and I could easily see King (and quite possibly Tester and McCaskill) voting to filibuster.
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« Reply #317 on: January 31, 2017, 09:16:24 PM »

but but but be happy democrats, he is a liberal and gonna be the third obama term, blah blah blah.

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« Reply #318 on: January 31, 2017, 09:17:28 PM »

Protestors outside of the SC shouting "WE WILL NOT GO BACK!"
Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon.

"Are they going to protest everything? The public at large will tune them out soon." - Me, watching the news circa early 2010.
The Tea Party as you knew it then died in 2013. I don't see the connection.

Nothing of importance happened between it's birth and death?
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« Reply #319 on: January 31, 2017, 09:35:31 PM »

Yes! Let's confirm him, as once Kennedy retires he might be our swing vote.
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« Reply #320 on: January 31, 2017, 09:38:14 PM »

I would guess all Republicans plus Manchin, Donnelly, Heitkamp, McCaskill, Tester, Warner, and Casey will support Gorsuch.  That's 59 votes for him.

LOL, McCaskill and Tester will not support him.

I'm sure they'll wait til the filibuster is nuked and then vote for him when it doesn't matter. Yes, I wrote "for." McCaskill and Tester are liberals, but they're not dumb and they know their states.

I think Tester will have an easier time that McCaskill.
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« Reply #321 on: January 31, 2017, 09:40:40 PM »

I'm sure they'll wait til the filibuster is nuked and then vote for him when it doesn't matter. Yes, I wrote "for." McCaskill and Tester are liberals, but they're not dumb and they know their states.

Even then I don't see them voting for him. Tester doesn't want to infuriate his liberal base in Montana and McCaskill doesn't really care anyway. Few voters in Montana or Missouri will change their mind on whether to vote for their Senator or not just because they happened to support the president's Supreme Court nominee.

I think what will happen is this: Either Gorsuch will be confirmed without a filibuster (in which case he is Souter 2.0) or the filibuster will be nuked. No conservative will be confirmed by the Senate without the nuclear option, obviously.
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« Reply #322 on: January 31, 2017, 09:41:11 PM »

Warning sign for Dems looking to block this:

Manu Raju ‏@mkraju  6m6 minutes ago
Sen. Mark Warner, a rare D offering praise for Gorsuch, saying he has an "impressive resume and academic background."

So what? A Senator can say that a nominee has an impressive resume and academic background -- like Robert Bork had 30 years ago -- but could still end up saying that the nominee is just too conservative, which was the reason for opposing Bork.
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« Reply #323 on: January 31, 2017, 09:43:27 PM »

I really don't envision a post-election write-up that says something like: "Claire McCaskill came close to winning, but her No vote on Gorsuch did her in"
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« Reply #324 on: January 31, 2017, 09:47:57 PM »

Elizabeth Warren has also announced her opposition.
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