VA-GOV 2017: Utter Panic and Doom (General election: Nov 7th)
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« Reply #1450 on: November 02, 2017, 09:36:24 AM »

Well, uh, all hail Gov. Northam, I guess. Sad
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« Reply #1451 on: November 02, 2017, 09:46:17 AM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

Now THIS is bad.
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« Reply #1452 on: November 02, 2017, 09:49:24 AM »

KKKorey Stewart calls Democrats the party of "criminals, communists, crackheads, and weirdos" as he mocked a transgender candidate.

Both sides do it. I am so proud to be a centrist.
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« Reply #1453 on: November 02, 2017, 09:52:14 AM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

Now THIS is bad.

No its not. Republicans could run on a platform of leveling San Francisco and almost half the country would cheer. People are only outraged when Democrats do it

Gillespie needs a certain percentage in northern virginia, its definitely not good for him
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« Reply #1454 on: November 02, 2017, 09:52:34 AM »
« Edited: November 02, 2017, 09:54:49 AM by Gass3268 »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

Northam needs to go hard on this the last couple days, see if he can get an ad up in the DC market before Tuesday.
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« Reply #1455 on: November 02, 2017, 09:55:52 AM »


Me too.  But I have to say that in recent years, the right has been more egregious about this kind of thing than the left has.
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« Reply #1456 on: November 02, 2017, 10:14:03 AM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

where in the recording is it? I didn't hear it.
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« Reply #1457 on: November 02, 2017, 10:57:12 AM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

where in the recording is it? I didn't hear it.
50 seconds in i believe
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« Reply #1458 on: November 02, 2017, 11:30:42 AM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

Now THIS is bad.

No its not. Republicans could run on a platform of leveling San Francisco and almost half the country would cheer. People are only outraged when Democrats do it
Half the country, but almost none of California.

You can’t call the most important part of the state enemy territory.
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« Reply #1459 on: November 02, 2017, 12:00:20 PM »

Hyra drop out rumor was false, his press conference was just him bashing both canidates/ parties
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« Reply #1460 on: November 02, 2017, 12:01:55 PM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

Now THIS is bad.

No its not. Republicans could run on a platform of leveling San Francisco and almost half the country would cheer. People are only outraged when Democrats do it
Half the country, but almost none of California.

You can’t call the most important part of the state enemy territory.


He can.

Republicans always get away with insulting city dwelling folk.
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« Reply #1461 on: November 02, 2017, 12:07:09 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)


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« Reply #1462 on: November 02, 2017, 12:13:40 PM »

Gillespie called northern virginia "enemy territory" at a fundraiser with audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs&app=desktop

Kevin Robillard ✔ @PoliticoKevin
.@American_Bridge is out with audio of Ed Gillespie referring to Northern Virginia has “enemy territory.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2sC0GFSEnqs … #VaGov

Now THIS is bad.

No its not. Republicans could run on a platform of leveling San Francisco and almost half the country would cheer. People are only outraged when Democrats do it
Half the country, but almost none of California.

You can’t call the most important part of the state enemy territory.


He can.

Republicans always get away with insulting city dwelling folk.

Yes they do because they never have to compete in those territories. Republicans can criticize SF, LA,  Chicago, or NY all they want because they never have any hope of winning there in any race. The loss of votes in those cities doesn't hurt the Republican party in any way, locally or in the electoral college. The votes gained in areas that benefit the Republican party are more important then the ones lost in the cities. However demonizing a area that is part of your state and has the chance to vote against you in 5 days doesn't seem like the soundest strategy.

Of course, I think this whole thing is relatively minor. Just like Latino Victories, this issue is minor compared to the Mueller talks earlier this week, or just regular policy issues that voters have been bombarded with for several months.
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« Reply #1463 on: November 02, 2017, 12:17:54 PM »

My guess is Northam +3 but of course hoping for an upset.
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« Reply #1464 on: November 02, 2017, 12:31:49 PM »

Gillespie sent himself to depths of political hell with that enemy territory comment. He's stupid enough to think that all he needs to win is Southwest Virginia, but that's far from being accurate.
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« Reply #1465 on: November 02, 2017, 12:32:24 PM »

This closet race in a long time in Virginia,while 2013-2014 were close there polls were not,on average both races had a swing from the polls to Election Day of 6 points that is why Gillespie is going to win.
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« Reply #1466 on: November 02, 2017, 12:40:34 PM »

This closet race in a long time in Virginia,while 2013-2014 were close there polls were not,on average both races had a swing from the polls to Election Day of 6 points that is why Gillespie is going to win.

Are you simple?

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2013&off=9&elect=0&fips=51&f=0

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2005&off=9&elect=0&fips=51&f=0
All I said was that Gillespie would win undecided voters.
Also I didn’t say would get a 6 point swing I have been saying since the beginning of September
48.72% Gillespie and 48.31% northam.
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« Reply #1467 on: November 02, 2017, 12:48:15 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)




Polling averages don’t work unless you include the good-faith outliers.
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« Reply #1468 on: November 02, 2017, 12:49:59 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)




Polling averages don’t work unless you include the good-faith outliers.

If anything, Kellyanne Conway's poll should not be in any average, especially not in place of a non-partisan pollster.
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« Reply #1469 on: November 02, 2017, 12:51:44 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)




Polling averages don’t work unless you include the good-faith outliers.

If anything, Kellyanne Conway's poll should not be in any average, especially not in place of a non-partisan pollster.

Skipping over the Kellyanne Conway poll puts the Fox News poll in the average, so either way you get somebody that is not non-partisan.
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« Reply #1470 on: November 02, 2017, 12:52:35 PM »

This closet race in a long time in Virginia,while 2013-2014 were close there polls were not,on average both races had a swing from the polls to Election Day of 6 points that is why Gillespie is going to win.

Are you simple?

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2013&off=9&elect=0&fips=51&f=0

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2005&off=9&elect=0&fips=51&f=0
All I said was that Gillespie would win undecided voters.
Also I didn’t say would get a 6 point swing I have been saying since the beginning of September
48.72% Gillespie and 48.31% northam.

He'd have to win ~70% of the undecided for that to happen.
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« Reply #1471 on: November 02, 2017, 12:52:45 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)




Polling averages don’t work unless you include the good-faith outliers.

If anything, Kellyanne Conway's poll should not be in any average, especially not in place of a non-partisan pollster.
If that Conway poll said Gillespie plus 12 I would agree but it’s plus 2 within the margin of error stop complaining when a poll comes out you don’t like.
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« Reply #1472 on: November 02, 2017, 12:54:06 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)




Polling averages don’t work unless you include the good-faith outliers.

If anything, Kellyanne Conway's poll should not be in any average, especially not in place of a non-partisan pollster.

Skipping over the Kellyanne Conway poll puts the Fox News poll in the average, so either way you get somebody that is not non-partisan.

Fox's polling unit is legit.
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« Reply #1473 on: November 02, 2017, 12:54:10 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2017, 12:56:53 PM by Greedo The Hunter »

This closet race in a long time in Virginia,while 2013-2014 were close there polls were not,on average both races had a swing from the polls to Election Day of 6 points that is why Gillespie is going to win.

Are you simple?

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2013&off=9&elect=0&fips=51&f=0

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2005&off=9&elect=0&fips=51&f=0
All I said was that Gillespie would win undecided voters.
Also I didn’t say would get a 6 point swing I have been saying since the beginning of September
48.72% Gillespie and 48.31% northam.

He'd have to win ~70% of the undecided for that to happen.

How many undecideds did he win 2014 oh right 99% plus some democrats.
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« Reply #1474 on: November 02, 2017, 12:55:49 PM »

Last 5 Polls (non-junk):

Suffolk: N+4
WaPo: N+5
BRD: N+6
Polling Company: G+2
Christopher Newport Univ. : N+7

Average: N +4.0 (Down from N+ 4.6 before Suffolk Poll)




Polling averages don’t work unless you include the good-faith outliers.

If anything, Kellyanne Conway's poll should not be in any average, especially not in place of a non-partisan pollster.
If that Conway poll said Gillespie plus 12 I would agree but it’s plus 2 within the margin of error stop complaining when a poll comes out you don’t like.

Oh the irony. What'd you say about Quinnipiac again?
That poll is trash it’s the only one saying that northam is up double digits heck he was by the as Murphy in New Jersey no way is that poll real.
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